G-Body rolled rear fender lips

[SicMonte]

Any idea on how to do this and get a nice clean job out of it? A local guy told me that he wasn't able to do it b/c the fender lip is so wide and thick. Anyone out there have any pointers?

[DaviRotten]

Are you talking about pulling and adding some flare or jus rolling the exsisting inner lip against the wheel well.. If its option 2 some relief cuts on the inner lip would help progress greatly and take your time with a roller.. Was gonna use a tool like the eastwood roller? Or a louisville slugger?

[elitecustombody]

I hate when I have to redo the butchery from clowns who have no clue how to preoperly roll fender lips, DO NOT cut any relief cuts, have someone who knows how to do it right, it takes some patience ,heat gun and fender roller,

I've rolled countless fenders and not once had to do relief cuts

[Tony_SS]

Use a torch!

[BigBlockOlds]

On my '87 I didn't roll them but just trimmed them down. On an Olds you can't use a roller (as far as I know anyway) because the wheel wells aren't round.

[SicMonte]

I hate when I have to redo the butchery from clowns who have no clue how to preoperly roll fender lips, DO NOT cut any relief cuts, have someone who knows how to do it right, it takes some patience ,heat gun and fender roller,

I've rolled countless fenders and not once had to do relief cuts


Do you want to roll the fenders on my car? Where is your shop located at?

[Samckitt]

I rolled mine with the Eastwood fender lip roller, rented it for a week for $30 from a guy in Indianapolis. Worked GREAT!
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/05/Fenderroller-1.jpg

[modular93fox]

ive got one for sale... if interested pm me. I used it about 3-5x and worked awsome! unfortunatly it doesnt work on my truck... I used a hammer and dolly for the fronts, worked out ok.

[DaviRotten]

I hate when I have to redo the butchery from clowns who have no clue how to preoperly roll fender lips, DO NOT cut any relief cuts, have someone who knows how to do it right, it takes some patience ,heat gun and fender roller,

I've rolled countless fenders and not once had to do relief cuts


Ok CLOWN explain yourself? How are relief cuts so wrong and bad?

[DaviRotten]

To the OP there are a thousand DIY vids on youtube to give you some insight on doing it.

[Samckitt]

I wouldn't cut it either. Use a heat gun to soften the paint & start rolling. Sure it takes a little time, & muscle. It may have taken me 2 hours to do both of mine, including jacking it up & removing tires.

[SicMonte]

I agree...there is no way I am going to cut anything when they make fender rollers that work great. I am most likelly going to buy a fender roller and use it on mine...then rent it out to people who need it.

[scherp69]

Don't mean to hijack the thread, but has anyone ever tried one of these: http://www.eastwood.com/fender-finisher.html I've heard of some issues with the rollers on 3rd gen novas. I guess they wouldn't reach all the way to roll the lip. Also, these are a fraction of the cost.

[Big Reazon]

So is there a tutorial on how to roll fender lips the non cutting way. I have an el camino and want to know how to properly roll or get rid of the lip.

[modular93fox]

it looked like the fender former damaged the outer portion of the fender roller... i mean you are squeezing the metal on a finished side.... i would use a bat over that tool.
clint

[Samckitt]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqiTfYyaI1A&feature=player_embedded

[BRIAN]

Problem with those Eastwood deals is they tend to bow out 1/4's. The lip has spot welds and has two panels joined together and the weak point becomes the 1/4 itself.

I vote for hammer and dolly. Take wheel off and work slow. The slower the process the smoother the job will be. Move the dolly in small incrememnts so the blows overlap. You can try a nylon hammer to avoid hammer marks. Start with the thicker side of the dolly and then a pass or 2 with the thinner curve. If yo do not have a dolly try pipe or conduit.


As far as relief cuts??? Don't see they will be needed unless you have an extreme condition.

[malibu9in]

I used a old alloy baseball bat. Agaginst the tire and had the ex drive the car forward and backward. Worked like a charm.

[elitecustombody]

Do you want to roll the fenders on my car? Where is your shop located at?

Sure, if you feel like driving to Florida:)

[elitecustombody]

Ok CLOWN explain yourself? How are relief cuts so wrong and bad?

you got it all wrong, look in the mirror for a CLOWN,

whenever I feel like digging up pics of the butchery I had to deal with ,I'll post the pics, they will not need explanation :poke:and it doesn't matter how clean and neat the cuts are

[xm-221]

you got it all wrong, look in the mirror for a CLOWN,

whenever I feel like digging up pics of the butchery I had to deal with ,I'll post the pics, they will not need explanation :poke:and it doesn't matter how clean and neat the cuts are

How about I help you out a bit here.

This is what happens when nuff nuff's have a go at 'slotting' guard lips and bending them over to get clearance for wider tyres.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/07/P1080388-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/07/P1070862-1.jpg

I ended up having to re-make these arches from scratch they were that bad, we in Australia call them 50c arches because 9 times out of 10 they end up looking like our 50c coin :D

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/07/50c_tails_2008-1.jpg

I don't think I've seen a set of slotted arches done by an owner/driver that have been done without damaging a wheel arch yet.

[elitecustombody]

How about I help you out a bit here.

This is what happens when nuff nuff's have a go at 'slotting' guard lips and bending them over to get clearance for wider tyres.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/07/P1080388-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/07/P1070862-1.jpg

I ended up having to re-make these arches from scratch they were that bad, we in Australia call them 50c arches because 9 times out of 10 they end up looking like our 50c coin :D

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/07/50c_tails_2008-1.jpg

I don't think I've seen a set of slotted arches done by an owner/driver that have been done without damaging a wheel arch yet.



That takes the cake,I have never seen so many cuts,someone just went nuts,

Thanks xm.:cheers:

[xm-221]

Not a problem Stefan, that arch looked like a comb once I had pulled the edges out, but it wasn't the worst I've seen. I repaired an Aussie 1965 Falcon (XP) a few years ago that had been slotted first with a grinding disc all the way from the outer wheel house to the rear quarter, the slots were almost 7-8mm wide :hmm:
So when they folded the lip over it ended up peeling the outer lip in and upwards (depending on where they stopped the "cut").
In the end the arch looked like a set of upside down stairs.
Sometimes you just feel like reaching out to owners who do this sort of thing :slap:

[BigBlockOlds]

Have you guys tried these?

http://www.eastwood.com/fender-finisher-1.html

[67rstbkt]

How about I help you out a bit here.

This is what happens when nuff nuff's have a go at 'slotting' guard lips and bending them over to get clearance for wider tyres.

I ended up having to re-make these arches from scratch they were that bad, we in Australia call them 50c arches because 9 times out of 10 they end up looking like our 50c coin :D

I don't think I've seen a set of slotted arches done by an owner/driver that have been done without damaging a wheel arch yet.



Yea, I'm one of those amateurs that did the relief cutting. I did it on my 94 Camaro. Worked out fine - no damage. I also did it on my 67, again, no damage.
Here are the pics:
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/07/IMGP1059-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/01/IMGP1062-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/01/IMGP1066-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/07/IMGP1068-1.jpg

Maybe I would do it differently had I had more experience, but it did not come out all messed up, my wheel arches are just fine.

[xm-221]

Yea, I'm one of those amateurs that did the relief cutting. I did it on my 94 Camaro. Worked out fine - no damage. I also did it on my 67, again, no damage.
Here are the pics:
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/07/IMGP1059-1.jpg
Maybe I would do it differently had I had more experience, but it did not come out all messed up, my wheel arches are just fine.

That is far from being amateurish. You've actually sat down and used your brain before you've lifted a finger to a tool. That makes you smarter than most owners in my books. :worship:

Nice fine evenly spaced cuts that look like they have been done with an airsaw (less heat transfer), and a drawn finish line for all of your cuts. I've seen supposed "pro's" do worse jobs than that. It also looks like you have cut away the outer wheel well lip so the finished folded arch has a thinner profile as well, that makes things alot easier when doing a job like this as you're only pulling one piece of steel instead of two.

If that is your way of doing something in the amateur way then you can come and work for me any day :twothumbs
Most forums I am a member of have a "Reputation" button, if this forum had it you would be getting it from me for showing how the ginsu method can be done properly without making a mess of your fender/guard lips.

[67rstbkt]

That is far from being amateurish. You've actually sat down and used your brain before you've lifted a finger to a tool. That makes you smarter than most owners in my books. :worship:

Nice fine evenly spaced cuts that look like they have been done with an airsaw (less heat transfer), and a drawn finish line for all of your cuts. I've seen supposed "pro's" do worse jobs than that. It also looks like you have cut away the outer wheel well lip so the finished folded arch has a thinner profile as well, that makes things alot easier when doing a job like this as you're only pulling one piece of steel instead of two.

If that is your way of doing something in the amateur way then you can come and work for me any day :twothumbs
Most forums I am a member of have a "Reputation" button, if this forum had it you would be getting it from me for showing how the ginsu method can be done properly without making a mess of your fender/guard lips.



Thank you for the tremendous compliment, I was really starting to think I messed up my car. I did use an airsaw and I did cut back the outer wheel lip before I placed the new quarters on. I thought about how I was going to approach this modification for awhile and in my mind, this just seemed to be a good way to make extra space. :cheers:

[badazz81z28]

Ok, I read through this and the Eastwood tool does not work with a narrowed rear lowered car. What is another proper way?