If your state offers them, do you use Historic tags on your project?

[Vicinity]

Or do you just go the regular route with regular registration?

[class67]

Is a 43 yr/ old car really old enough to qualify for historic plates?...lol

No, I do not have historic plates but do have the old blue and yellow plates that CA. issued in the early 70's.

[Vicinity]

Is a 43 yr/ old car really old enough to qualify for historic plates?...lol

No, I do not have historic plates but do have the old blue and yellow plates that CA. issued in the early 70's.

Here in Maryland, it's 20 years for historic, 25 for hot rod.

[critter]

Yes, because I seldom drive it more than 5000. Miles in a year. If it were my daily driver I might not

[wicked68]

absolutely. its 25.00 per year instead of paying full boat.

[novaderrik]

i have collector plates on 2 of my cars- paid $39.95 for each of them 2 years ago, and they are now registered forever.
the kicker is that there are no real restrictions on how or when the cars can be driven.
some people think you can only drive the car to shows or on weekends or for a limited number of miles per year or whatever- but i've read the appropriate statues and it says NOTHING about any restrictions at all, only that the car needs to be 20 years old and that i have a car registered normally. i've printed off the appropriate statutes to keep in the glovebox along with my insurance cards just in case some knowitall law enforcement officer decides to give me grief for driving my collector car in the boonies at 3 am on a weeknight..

[Vicinity]

i have collector plates on 2 of my cars- paid $39.95 for each of them 2 years ago, and they are now registered forever.
the kicker is that there are no real restrictions on how or when the cars can be driven.
some people think you can only drive the car to shows or on weekends or for a limited number of miles per year or whatever- but i've read the appropriate statues and it says NOTHING about any restrictions at all, only that the car needs to be 20 years old and that i have a car registered normally. i've printed off the appropriate statutes to keep in the glovebox along with my insurance cards just in case some knowitall law enforcement officer decides to give me grief for driving my collector car in the boonies at 3 am on a weeknight..

What state?

[dropit69]

we have classic and antique in IL not sure sbout historic..but no because i heard you cant drive more than so many mile son them and its suppose to be to and from shopws or parades screw that i like personal one instead

[minendrews68]

Arkansas has antique plates $25 once and that's it. I have them on my '78 Honda 750 SS. I will probably use them on the Camaro too. I have Ducks Unlimited on my truck I really like them, they're $60 a year.

Carl

[rickk]

in tx it is 60.00 for 5 yrs.:1st:
rick k

[TnBlkC230WZ]

Tennessee has the Antique plates too. They are $25 but you can only drive to and from shows. A friend of mine has gotten a couple of tickets driving his 69 442 to work. I use standard donation plates. These are regular plates that advertise a charity for a fee. Mine are LeBonor Children's Hospital.

[724tim]

I have them on my olds one time fee nothing else ever again.
http://www.dmv.state.pa.us/pdotforms/fact_sheets/fs-ant.pdf

[vintageracer]

Tennessee has the Antique plates too. They are $25 but you can only drive to and from shows. A friend of mine has gotten a couple of tickets driving his 69 442 to work. I use standard donation plates. These are regular plates that advertise a charity for a fee. Mine are LeBonor Children's Hospital.


That's why you have LIE and tell the officer that you are going to the repair shop this morning to have work completed on the car. That doesn't fly if it's your daily driver and the officer see's you driving the car daily but it's worth a try. Old cars break down a lot and a trip to the shop for repair everyday may be necessary!!!

Besides, just think of the "carbon footprint" you making us all breath with that old none efficient car. How dare you pollute MY air!!

Fart's don't count!

[shmoov69]

nope, too few miles allowed.

[2ndgenhunter]

We have them here in GA and I'm running them on everything 25 years or older. 20 bucks a year ain't bad. If your car is a 72 and older you can run a year of the vehicle plate as long as you buy the antique plates. You just have to keep the antique plates in the car. I throw mine in the trunk and drive.

[novaderrik]

What state?

Minnesota

[Ash]

In Florida, you can get an old Florida tag (back when they used to stamp the year into the plate) with the year of you make on it and get it registered with that. http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.15q.net/us1/fl70.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.15q.net/fl.html&usg=__ptkqNuYWt2uPXgTkNpbLUn34J8s=&h=212&w=431&sz=13&hl=en&start=16&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=tGUVNtUFBU9wGM:&tbnh=62&tbnw=126&prev=/images%3Fq%3D1970%2Bflorida%2Bplate%26um%3D1%26hl% 3Den%26tbs%3Disch:1

[Bow Tie 67]

I started using the antique plates 3 years ago. They are less expensive and I just ignore the mileage / use rule.

[68Formula]

I use actual year plates when available. Typically no limitations. The difficulty is finding an original set in good enough condition to use. I've done that for two states.

[67 455 Bird ragtop]

In Florida, you can get an old Florida tag (back when they used to stamp the year into the plate) with the year of you make on it and get it registered with that. http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.15q.net/us1/fl70.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.15q.net/fl.html&usg=__ptkqNuYWt2uPXgTkNpbLUn34J8s=&h=212&w=431&sz=13&hl=en&start=16&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=tGUVNtUFBU9wGM:&tbnh=62&tbnw=126&prev=/images%3Fq%3D1970%2Bflorida%2Bplate%26um%3D1%26hl% 3Den%26tbs%3Disch:1


Yep. I have one sitting in my closet waiting to go on my 67 'Bird. They used to offer Antique plates but they stopped several years ago.

[71RS/SS396]

I do because in North Carolina it caps the taxation value at $ 500. Some of the counties here are getting wise to the fact they are losing revenue because of the value of these cars and are starting to nail you on the taxes. The plates are a little more but still cheaper than paying the taxes.

[GaRys69]

In Texas it also allows your car to be inspection and smog exempt.

[69Pony]

I run vanity historic tags in MD and have never had an issue. I know some guys run the period correct (ie 1969 date) tags they purchased from a car show and just keep their "regular" tags and registration in the car. I didn't want to do that since it sometimes attracts the attention of an officer. There is no time or mileage restriction on historic plates in MD but there are on the Hot Rod plates. Plus Historic is cheaper than regular tags.

http://www.1969stang.com/gallery/COZ-69Mach1/109_0959?full=1

[wicked68]

In Texas it also allows your car to be inspection and smog exempt.
same in georgia

[Happyfunballs]

This is what Missouri does:

Historic License Plates
To qualify for historic license plates, a vehicle (passenger vehicle, truck, or motorcycle) must be 25 years old or older, owned solely as a collector’s item, and used for exhibition and educational purposes.

Vehicles displaying historic or antique license plates may be driven:

To and from exhibitions and educational events without any mileage limitation;
To repair facilities within a 100 mile limit; and
Up to 1,000 miles per year for personal use.
The owner is responsible for keeping a log of the miles driven for personal use each calendar year. The log must be kept in the vehicle when the vehicle is being driven on any state road.


Historic license plates are a permanent registration and cannot be transferred. If you sell or dispose of the vehicle, you must return the plates to the Missouri Department of Revenue.

How to Apply for Historic License Plates:
You will need to complete, sign, and submit an Application for Missouri Historic or Personalized Historic License Plates, form DOR-570, with the following documents and fee:

Your current original county or St. Louis City personal property tax receipt or non-assessment statement;
A copy of the insurance card or other acceptable proof of financial responsibility for the vehicle being registered;
A copy of the vehicle's title or registration receipt; and
A registration fee of $25.25 (this is a one-time fee for regular historic plates);
A $3.50 processing fee.
Personalized Historic License Plates
You may apply for personalized historic license plates for an additional $15 fee. Simply check the appropriate box on the application form and enter your configuration choices. You may submit six choices. Personalized historic license plates expire each year, and an annual $15 personalized plate fee is charged.

Antique Historic License Plates
The owner of any historic vehicle possessing a license plate issued by the state of Missouri that is over 25 years old in which the year of issuance of such plate is consistent with the model year of the vehicle may register such plate as a historic vehicle plate as set forth in section 301.131, Revised Statutes of Missouri, provided the plate configuration does not conflict with the current numbering system. If you are in possession of a plate that is consistent with the model year of the vehicle, please submit a picture of the plate with the application and requirements one through five above (the $25.25 registration fee is a one-time fee for antique historic license plates).

Forms
You may apply for your regular or personalized historic license plates by mail or in person at the Central Office in Jefferson City. You may request the forms using our handy online order form or pick up copies at any local license office.

NOTE: If the vehicle is not titled in your name, you must complete, sign, and submit an Application for Missouri Title and License (DOR-108) with the properly assigned title. The titling fees include an $8.50 title fee, 4.225% state sales/use tax, local taxes (if applicable), $2.50 processing fee, and any title penalty due if application for title is not made within 30 days from the date of purchase. Check our online Sales Tax Calculator to estimate your taxes.

1,000 miles is not enough. I went with collegiate plates.

[MarkM66]

I'm in MO and love historic plates. No inspection, or renewal hassle.

I never fill out the milage log book, but that's just me. I actually got a ticket for not having it filled out, about ten years ago, and when I went to pay the fine, the infraction wasn't even in the books, so they threw it out. I haven't been pulled over since. My mileage book was blank, so I bet if I would of just fudged a few miles in there once in awhile, I would of been fine. It's not like they put a GPS system in the car with big brother monitoring the miles. :)

[srh3trinity]

I am in Alabama and when we had our 68 Camaro we had Antique plates, but there was a mileage restriction. When I get a project car I will likely go with the option of getting the "Barber Motorsports Park" that most of the car guys put on their cars.

[Vicinity]

I run vanity historic tags in MD and have never had an issue. I know some guys run the period correct (ie 1969 date) tags they purchased from a car show and just keep their "regular" tags and registration in the car. I didn't want to do that since it sometimes attracts the attention of an officer. There is no time or mileage restriction on historic plates in MD but there are on the Hot Rod plates. Plus Historic is cheaper than regular tags.

http://www.1969stang.com/gallery/COZ-69Mach1/109_0959?full=1

If an officer has suspicious you're daily driving he can ticket you, as I understand the law.

I know quite a few guys with historic plates on sh*t cars and haven't had any trouble. I think I'll try it.

[wmhjr]

PA sucks with this stuff.

We have Classic and Antique plates, which are good for the life of the vehicle. Classic are at least 15yrs old, Antique 25 yrs old. However, the vehicle must be maintained in or restored to a condition which is substantially in conformance with manufacturer specifications. Here in PA, that means even down to the wheels. In order to get these tags, you need to send front, both sides and rear photos of the vehicle. If it even has aftermarket wheels, they return the application without action. What's even worse is that some local police depts are actually now pulling over cars with these tags and apparently even going so far as confiscating them if the vehicle is "modified". If you're bone stock, you're OK. Otherwise..... Antique plates mean no annual inspections. Classic plates mean annual safety inspection but no emissions inspection.

We also have "Collectable" plates. A "Collectable" is a reconstructed motor vehicle, but not a reproduction thereof, substantially modified from the manufacturer’s original specifications and appearance and maintained in a collectible condition as determined by the Department of Transportation. NOTE: Generally, substantial changes to the engine and exhaust systems must be done to qualify the vehicle as a collectible motor vehicle. If the extensive changes are other than engine, be sure to give very detailed and specific information in Section C on the front of this form. In addition, the vehicle must primarily be used for show and must appear to be in “show” condition in the photographs submitted with the application
Collectable plates get annual safety inspection, no emissions. Collectables also require receipts of ALL modfications, and they attempt to charge you sales tax on all the modifications.

PA has no ability to have actual year or historic plates. PA has sold out and is absolutely horrible in the way they treat our hobby. Actually, cars in general.

[SicMonte]

my 88 monte carlo has Maryland historic plates.

[Jim Nilsen]

I thought about using them but the restrictions just didn't make sense and it was not possible to get them the way I wanted them.

I have CORMARO and no numbers and it just didn't seem possible from what I could see when looking online, I could have been mistaken but I didn't want to get pulled over for them and hassled about it.

They might be cheaper but the tickets would offset it all in one stop by the police if they wanted to. Fixing the mileage would be easy but not worth it. I want to drive the car when I want and the miles add up quick.

It is really sad some of the states make it like the end of the world that someone would own an older car and drive it.

[Bow Tie 67]

Whats funny is for years I paid full price for standard plates, and rarely drove my car. Then I go to the cheaper restricted plates and drive all over the country.

[2Bad4Ya]

I do because in North Carolina it caps the taxation value at $ 500. Some of the counties here are getting wise to the fact they are losing revenue because of the value of these cars and are starting to nail you on the taxes. The plates are a little more but still cheaper than paying the taxes.

hmm I didn't think of that logic.

[JayR]

I'm running them here in WA which means I never have to pay to register the car again. They don't want it to be a daily driver but there are lots of guys who abuse it and even the cops say they can't really enforce it.

[6'9"Witha69]

Nope, no reason to, there realy isn't much of an advantage to here in CA.

[Vicinity]

Nope, no reason to, there realy isn't much of an advantage to here in CA.

Really? They offer no tax limit, registration limit, or some kind of perk?

[6'9"Witha69]

Ther only ones from what I read up on (~ 10 years ago so it may have changed, but this is CA, not likely) is for Historic plates. And to qualify you must have a documented history as to why the vehicle is part of history (read "notable").

[6'9"Witha69]

From the CVC

Vehicles of Historic Value
5004. (a) Notwithstanding any other provision of this code, any owner of a vehicle described in paragraph (1), (2), or (3) which is operated or moved over the highway primarily for the purpose of historical exhibition or other similar purpose shall, upon application in the manner and at the time prescribed by the department, be issued special identification plates for the vehicle:

(1) A motor vehicle with an engine of 16 or more cylinders manufactured prior to 1965.

(2) A motor vehicle manufactured in the year 1922 or prior thereto.

(3) A vehicle which was manufactured after 1922, is at least 25 years old, and is of historic interest.

(b) The special identification plates assigned to motor vehicles with an engine of 16 or more cylinders manufactured prior to 1965 and to any motor vehicle manufactured in the year 1922 and prior thereto shall run in a separate numerical series, commencing with "Horseless Carriage No. 1".

The special identification plates assigned to vehicles specified in paragraph (3) of subdivision (a) shall run in a separate numerical series, commencing with "Historical Vehicle No. 1".

Each series of plates shall have different and distinguishing colors.

(c) A fee of twenty-five dollars ($25) shall be charged for the initial issuance of the special identification plates. Such plates shall be permanent and shall not be required to be replaced. If such special identification plates become damaged or unserviceable in any manner, replacement for the plates may be obtained from the department upon proper application and upon payment of such fee as is provided for in Section 9265.

(d) All funds received by the department in payment for such identification plates or the replacement thereof shall be deposited in the California Environmental License Plate Fund.

(e) These vehicles shall not be exempt from the equipment provisions of Sections 26709, 27150, and 27600.

(f) As used in this section, a vehicle is of historic interest if it is collected, restored, maintained, and operated by a collector or hobbyist principally for purposes of exhibition and historic vehicle club activities.

Amended Ch. 918, Stats. 1984. Effective January 1, 1985.

[69fbodyproject]

Here in Alberta you buy the plate once and your done. We have a number of them on our cars. They are the solution so you are not trying to remember to renew the stupid things every year, and which cars you have or havent renewed yet.

[19sixtynine]

I'm in Washington and I just bought them for the Camaro.

$35 and never have to be renewed. I know there are mileage restrictions but I'm not too concerned as it pretty much will only get driven on nice days and to car shows and back.....

[CRead01]

I run them... In MI it cost like 60 bucks and lasts i think 11 years. can't beat that.

[doribak]

Ther only ones from what I read up on (~ 10 years ago so it may have changed, but this is CA, not likely) is for Historic plates. And to qualify you must have a documented history as to why the vehicle is part of history (read "notable").

Can't you register in other state? get another state plate or something... where my dad lives in MD there are people who live in our building that have Arizona plates or other states and i know they aren't just visiting.

[Vicinity]

Can't you register in other state? get another state plate or something... where my dad lives in MD there are people who live in our building that have Arizona plates or other states and i know they aren't just visiting.

If you have 2 residences and you keep one as your primary but live in another, you can do that. Otherwise it's illegal. I think what I just said is illegal, but no one really cares.

[Taman]

In Illinois the plates are $37.50 for 5 years instead of $106 a year. This allows you to run a vintage plate of the same year vehicle. I put a 75 IL plate on my TA. I am having the original plates that came with my TA restored. Any 75 state plate can be run as long as the antique plate is in the car with you. http://www.licenseplates.tv/ will make almost every plate from most years and states so you can have a vintage plate say what you want and know one can run your plate and see where you live. Another benefit is those stupid red light cameras can not send you a ticket because the vintage plate is not registered. There are restrictions here about car shows, repair but there is always a car show somewhere here.

[wmhjr]

Can't you register in other state? get another state plate or something... where my dad lives in MD there are people who live in our building that have Arizona plates or other states and i know they aren't just visiting.

I'm guessing state laws may vary, however PA legally requires you to re-register an "out of state" vehicle in PA within 20 days of either you bringing the vehicle in state, or of establishing a residence if you are a new resident. Bottom line is that if you're in the same area all the time, local police often eventually pull you over and cite you for not comforming to the requirement to reregister the vehicle. It happened to me personally some time back while I was active military.

[6'9"Witha69]

I'm guessing state laws may vary, however PA legally requires you to re-register an "out of state" vehicle in PA within 20 days of either you bringing the vehicle in state, or of establishing a residence if you are a new resident. Bottom line is that if you're in the same area all the time, local police often eventually pull you over and cite you for not comforming to the requirement to reregister the vehicle. It happened to me personally some time back while I was active military.
CA is the same. they have actually been cracking down on this as many people were registering in AZ or NV to avoid higher CA fees. CHP was ordered to crack down on this practice to recover lost revenue. I already attract attentoin when I drive my '69, I don't need another reason to be looked at twice!

[doribak]

how can they prove you aren't just passing by? sound odd that a police man would start argue with you about if you do or do not live around.

why would you care if they look twice, the car is legal so who cares.

you guys need to think how to cut corners... you don't have to let the state rob your honest earned money.

[wmhjr]

how can they prove you aren't just passing by? sound odd that a police man would start argue with you about if you do or do not live around.

why would you care if they look twice, the car is legal so who cares.

you guys need to think how to cut corners... you don't have to let the state rob your honest earned money.

Um, if you live somewhere and there are local police, they notice after a while if they see the same car with out of state tags week after week after week. When they see that and look twice, the car is NOT legal. If you're driving a muscle/pro-touring car, you're pretty easy to remember, eh?

So then it gets worse. You'll get pulled over (been there, got the ticket) and they ask for your license, registration and insurance. So either your out of state registration doesn't match your in state license (there's the first citation) or it does and you're also guilty of not complying with the state law requiring you to get an in state drivers license (the law which also makes holding a license in 2 states at the same time illegal). There's your 2nd citation.

Believe me, I hate giving PA any more money than I have to. But I'm also not going to put myself at risk to save $40. If you get right down to it, lots of us have things about our cars that don't quite meet the state requirements. Exhaust, noise, maybe non-DOT approved suspension, etc. Why risk it?

[doribak]

ok, I'm starting to understand the point, didn't know some states has so many laws that restrict you guys.

Here is Israel its easy everything is illegal (any change or mod) but the cops don't make hard life on old cars so we can do almost anything we want.
and because the our cars were built before the exhaust or noise regulations none of them catch on us so we can drive around me freeflow all the way!

[wmhjr]

No problem. I realize it's hard for people from other countries to understand some of the issues here (and vice versa, of course). Israel is about the size of a few large counties in Flordia. I've lived overseas a lot and you don't see the same local/state/federal government influences as much outside of the US - largely because the overall land mass of the US is so huge and because of the separation of state and federal government. In Israel, you have a "national" drivers license. In the US, State governments and not the central Federal government issue drivers licenses.