Aluminum Block 427 Install

[Gitter Dun]

Ordered engine on Monday, wont be ready for another 4 weeks. Yesterday I built storage space in my garage to make room to pull old motor and install new. Today I went to the county to pick up my approved plans for my new shop and then organized my garage. Here are pics of new storage space that I built, car in place of where work will take place, old engine still in car, and the plans for my new shop that I will be building next to my house.


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[Gitter Dun]

Wow, 4/8 since last post. Well it started out just to be aluminum engine install but has turned into a bit more, Aluminum Front Clip is scheduled to be here April 28th, pulled fenders, installed 700 lb front springs, and new Corbeau FX-1 Pros today


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[dusterbd13]

looks like fun.
by the way, the pictures are a little wonky. try copy and paste the img code from photobucket sirectly into the post. makes bigger pictures and easier.

who's coils? my old hypercoils had a tag like that on them...

[Gitter Dun]

If you click on just one of those links, when you get into photobucket you can slide show from upper left side.

Yeah, I'm excited to get it done and make Buttonwillow June 5th. She should be done 3rd week in May.

The coils springs are made by Suspension Spring Specialists

[6'9"Witha69]

DO it like this:
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[Gitter Dun]

DO it like this:
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Just replace {} with[] to ge this:
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Thanks, gonna give it a try

[Gitter Dun]

Just a little clean up work today to get ready for Aluminum front clip which is supposed to show up on the 28th of this month. Painted wheel wells, radiator support, and lower control arms.


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[Gitter Dun]

looks like fun.
by the way, the pictures are a little wonky. try copy and paste the img code from photobucket sirectly into the post. makes bigger pictures and easier.

who's coils? my old hypercoils had a tag like that on them...

Thanks, finally figured out how to resize in photo bucket

[sik68]

Lookin good Gaetano! Gitter Dun! Don't forget to post the before/after weights!

-Steven

[Gitter Dun]

Lookin good Gaetano! Gitter Dun! Don't forget to post the before/after weights!

-Steven

Oh yeah, thanks. Original weight before swap is 3220. Car only.

The freight company delivering the aluminum front clip just told me that they will be a day late so its looking like the 29th of this month now.

Just spoke with my engine builder building my aluminum block 427 and originally we were shooting for 580 hp. That has changed to 625 hp. Motor should be here May 10th.

[zamora7]

Damn, sounds like its going to be a beast.

[Gitter Dun]

Pulled engine out Wednesday. I finished installing Aluminum Front Clip today. Delivering car to paint shop on Monday.


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[eddiep]

How do you like the fit and finish of those aluminum body panles?



Pulled engine out Wednesday. I finished installing Aluminum Front Clip today. Delivering car to paint shop on Monday.

[Nessumsar]

Jealous...

[Gitter Dun]

How do you like the fit and finish of those aluminum body panles?


It's definitely not bolt on application out of the box. Alot of the pre-drilled holes have to be reamed or re-drilled. Also, my passenger side door body lines are not quite right where it meets the front fender. Thats not something I could fix by adjusting or lining up. Also, the hood has a crown and sits about 3/16" above center of fenders.

If you buy these panels make sure your scheduled for a good body shop.

Lucky for AMD I'm more of a funtion not form guy and will leave good enough alone or I'd be on the phone right now

You'd think that for the money you spend it would be a tighter package.

[Gitter Dun]

Jealous...


Dont be too jealous, I can only afford to paint the front clip, LOL.

[Gitter Dun]

Well, the car is at the paint shop and wont be back till this Friday. I'm flying out to Muncie, Indiana to watch my new motor get dyno'd on the 13th. Going with 3" exhaust. My headers are being made right now and wont be here till the 18th. Here are some goodies the Fed Ex guy dropped off.


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[JEFFTATE]

Nice !
Tires, x-pipe , radiator , mufflers ..that's just what you need.

[Gitter Dun]

Thanks Jeff, always puts a smile on my face when I get a response, LOL. Unfortunately, now I have to wait around for my engine until I do anything else even when car gets back from paint on Friday. Cant install radiator, new throttle cable and pedal set up, electric vacuum pump,............................................. ........................................

Although, I will be able to put my front bumper and side marker lights when car gets back on Friday, LOL.

Almost forgot, could install new Dynamat and carpet too.

Been talking to Baer about new brakes past couple days, if I order tommorrow I'll see them in a week. Beleive it or not, my old two piston set up was pretty effective on the road course at 3400 lbs, but I,m drooling :yum: over the fact that I could brake deeper into the turns with a six piston set up and 200 lbs lighter.

[MrQuick]

bet that paints gonna be soft when you pull into the pits the 5th.
good luck
vince

[gmjj13]

lookin good. who's making the headers for you.

[Gitter Dun]

lookin good. who's making the headers for you.

The headers are part #2308-1HKR and are made by Hooker. Apparently they are made to order.They have 2" primaries, come with two different length removable collectors so that you can adjust torque curve at different RPM range, and are cerami-coated.

[Gitter Dun]

bet that paints gonna be soft when you pull into the pits the 5th.
good luck
vince

Car comes back from paint on April 7th. Concrete takes 28 days to gain full strength, I'm no paint expert but I imagine paint should cure quicker than that. As long as the paint comes home with me on the evening of the 6th I'll be content.

[John Wright]

Get them to run it through the oven and cure it for you.

[Gitter Dun]

Get them to run it through the oven and cure it for you.

Thanks John, I'm on the horn now!!

[Gitter Dun]

bet that paints gonna be soft when you pull into the pits the 5th.
good luck
vince

Wow, you were right, Ken told me it typically takes 60 days for paint to cure, but he will be baking it and said should be good to go on Friday.

The things you learn...

[MrQuick]

actually I was being facetious but he oven is a good idea.... LOL


Hope AL is ok at 250 degrees


btw what did that front cost you shipped and does it include innerwells?

vince

[Rick D]

Wow, you were right, Ken told me it typically takes 60 days for paint to cure, but he will be baking it and said should be good to go on Friday.

The things you learn...

Most clear coat's today take up tp 90 days to fully cure. When you bake the clear all you are doing is setting it up so you can buff and deliver it back to the customer. No matter how long you bake it, it still take's up to 90 days for all the solivents to come back out. That includes your sealer, basecoat, and clear coat. Thats why some shop's will tell you to come back after the 90 days to polish it again because sometimes it will shrink. As far as beating on it at the track you should be fine.

[Gitter Dun]

actually I was being facetious but he oven is a good idea.... LOL


Hope AL is ok at 250 degrees

vince

Your to funny, actually I think he quoted 130 degrees, it's temporary anyways, just wanted to get car on road courses soon, unfortunately I dipped into my shop fund so will see about winter tear down. Might have to wait till next year for new paint scheme

[Gitter Dun]

Most clear coat's today take up tp 90 days to fully cure. When you bake the clear all you are doing is setting it up so you can buff and deliver it back to the customer. No matter how long you bake it, it still take's up to 90 days for all the solivents to come back out. That includes your sealer, basecoat, and clear coat. Thats why some shop's will tell you to come back after the 90 days to polish it again because sometimes it will shrink. As far as beating on it at the track you should be fine.

Thanks Rick, interesting stuff. 90 days, I woulda never guessed.

[Greg from Aus]

It's definitely not bolt on application out of the box. Alot of the pre-drilled holes have to be reamed or re-drilled. Also, my passenger side door body lines are not quite right where it meets the front fender. Thats not something I could fix by adjusting or lining up. Also, the hood has a crown and sits about 3/16" above center of fenders.

If you buy these panels make sure your scheduled for a good body shop.

Lucky for AMD I'm more of a funtion not form guy and will leave good enough alone or I'd be on the phone right now

You'd think that for the money you spend it would be a tighter package.


I have the aluminum kit comming, can you please let me no what hinges you used.

Greg

[John Wright]

Any new pics?

[ProdigyCustoms]

Gaetano,

I know you did not buy your sheetmetal through us but I wanted to solve this hood alignment issue for you. So I called the owner of AMD and forwarded him these pics.

We have not had any issues like this. So for the slight fender missaligment, that is not uncommon even on NOS these things lined up horrible. But that hood bow is not right.

Please contact

Mike Gray at AMD 800 591 8309 and let him know I sent you.

[John Wright]

Gaetano,

I know you did not buy your sheetmetal through us but I wanted to solve this hood alignment issue for you. Frank,
Are you gonna lend him your sledge hammer and block of wood like shown in your YouTube video of the replacement panel repair?.....LOL

[Ricoch3T]

Gaetano,

I know you did not buy your sheetmetal through us but I wanted to solve this hood alignment issue for you. So I called the owner of AMD and forwarded him these pics.

We have not had any issues like this. So for the slight fender missaligment, that is not uncommon even on NOS these things lined up horrible. But that hood bow is not right.

Please contact

Mike Gray at AMD 800 591 8309 and let him know I sent you.


I've seen a lot of fiberglass hoods bow like that in the middle... Def cool of you to get him in touch with someone there about the problem.

[Gitter Dun]

I have the aluminum kit comming, can you please let me no what hinges you used.

Greg

Stock hinges and they supply springs

[Gitter Dun]

I've seen a lot of fiberglass hoods bow like that in the middle... Def cool of you to get him in touch with someone there about the problem.

Thanks Frank, by the way thanks for the clutch help, I owe you big, dinner and cocktails on me when I ever see you.

[Gitter Dun]

Ok, just got home from my dyno pull at NYES Racing Engines in Muncie, Indiana. What a blast!! Rented a new Camaro for the 2 hour drive into Muncie from Indianapolis Airport. Too much fun!! The roads in Indiana are nice and they think they Know what traffic is, LOL. Nothing like California and the drivers there are super courteous(pulled in the no. 2 lane without hesitation when I was coming up on them, sorry folks, was in a hurry).


Got to the shop at 6:00 p.m. and they were still there, and Pat and Mark through it on the dyno for me right away. GREAT GUYS!!

OK, not gonna drag this out cause I'm beat and need sleep, will post pics in couple days cause gonna be real busy next couple days.

Numbers were 615 hp at 6400 rpm and 562 torque at 5000 rpm. This thing sounded wicked and cant wait to post first sound video and most likely 1st through 2nd wicked bunout, LOL.

More details after a couple days.

[Vegas69]

Nice, that baby should be a screamer!

[Gitter Dun]

Nice, that baby should be a screamer!

FRIKEN-A-BUBBA!! Cant wait to drop her in and I'm crappin my pants thinkin about what she's gonna feel like on the track. Nervous and excited at the same time.

Pat said I could start thrashin motor right away(love that guy).... With new seats(which I'm gonna test before selling old ones that I loved but were a bit heavy), new throttle pedal, more hp/trq, and less weight, gonna feel like a whole nother car.

[MrQuick]

nice, one day i'll get up to that level.

Can't wait to see it in action.

Vince

[Gitter Dun]

nice, one day i'll get up to that level.

Can't wait to see it in action.

Vince

Vince, I'm pretty sure we get 5 not 4 20/25 minute sessions at Buttonwillow. I will take you out with me 1st couple sessions.

1st session will be slow cause of track temps, 2nd should pick up a bit, 3rd through fifth is when I either break something or lay down some solid times, LMAO
:hammer::lol: :bananna2:

[ProdigyCustoms]

Thanks Frank, by the way thanks for the clutch help, I owe you big, dinner and cocktails on me when I ever see you.

Sounds like you found the bracket? Awesome. Way better then hydraulic.

[Gitter Dun]

Any new pics?

I will post new pics Monday night, thats when car gets back from paint. Originally was gonna have him paint front clip only, but when I went to go pick it up, the difference was too extreme, so I told him to keep it and paint rest of car.

Engine ships today and will be here the 21st, hoping to make Buttonwillow the 28th.

[Gitter Dun]

Well, I said I was gonna post car yesterday but it doesn't look like I'm getting it back from paint till Friday. Here are a few goodies I have gotten from the UPS guy while I've been waiting.


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[srh3trinity]

Nice choice in wheels. I have only had a few new parts show up on my doorstep, I can't imagine how exciting it would be to have that group of parts show up over a period of a few days.

[Gitter Dun]

Nice choice in wheels. I have only had a few new parts show up on my doorstep, I can't imagine how exciting it would be to have that group of parts show up over a period of a few days.


The anticipation is killing me. I just got a call that my engine is at the shipping terminal about an hour away and they cant deliver till Friday.

As soon as my kids get home today I'm gonna go pick it up.:bananna2:

[sik68]

pro-touring.com lays a beat-down on the wallet doesn't it :injured:

That motor is going to be uber nasty. What tires are you going to run now?

Really excited to see your car in action. Don't break it, I want to see that thing work! NCRC has Thunderhill Friday June 25th...I'm thinking about taking that day off.

[FadedSS]

cant wait to see this come together gaetano, i definitely want to check it out in person!

[Gitter Dun]

Just got back from picking up motor at shipping terminal. Cant wait to drop it into car this weekend. Should be up and running Tuesday if all goes well.


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[Gitter Dun]

pro-touring.com lays a beat-down on the wallet doesn't it :injured:

That motor is going to be uber nasty. What tires are you going to run now?

Really excited to see your car in action. Don't break it, I want to see that thing work! NCRC has Thunderhill Friday June 25th...I'm thinking about taking that day off.

I'll be at Spectre341Challege that weekend but definitely looking forward to seeing you out there.

I'll be running Toyo R888's but as soon as those are gone going back to RA-1's.

Gonna have to re-learn car do to changes, anticipation is killing me.

I can already feel myself in it feathering throttle out of turns trying to tame the back end, LOL, holy sh#%!!

[Gitter Dun]

cant wait to see this come together gaetano, i definitely want to check it out in person!

Matt, there is a car show up here June 13th, you should come up. By the way, love the vette. It was pretty funny walking through the lobby of the Fairmont with a flex plate in hand.

[John Wright]

Sweet looking lil motor....

[MarkM66]

What are the specs on the engine? Was is dyno'ed?

[John Wright]

What are the specs on the engine? Was is dyno'ed?https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/showpost.php?p=672546&postcount=38

[Vegas69]

Christmas at Gaetano's. Have fun....

[MarkM66]

https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/showpost.php?p=672546&postcount=38


Heads, block, cam etc..........

[Gitter Dun]

Christmas at Gaetano's. Have fun....

LOL, thats what my wife said.

[Gitter Dun]

Heads, block, cam etc..........

Motor dynoed at 615 hp at 6400 and 562 torque at 5000. Block is a PBM aluminun. Internals are all Eagle with JE pistons. Heads are Dart Pro 1 230's 2.08 1.60 valves. Cam is an Erson custom ground solid roller with LS firing order.

[Gitter Dun]

Sweet looking lil motor....

Thanks John, now lets just hope she stands to the rigors of my right foot.

[Tucks69]

Looks like you are making progress Gaetano!

[Gitter Dun]

Looks like you are making progress Gaetano!

I will pick up car from paint Friday, have motor and trans in by Saturday, then finish details on Sunday.

Hooker shorted me my sub flange so that might hold me up for scheduled exhaust appointment on Monday.

Those guys really piss me off, but might not be there fault cause box was opened when delivered.

[ProdigyCustoms]

I love a all aluminum 427 small block! the weight to power ratio for what your doing is awesome. And taking 175LBS or so off the nose will make a huge impact in your weight balance. I will be curious to see where your at when you scale it. With you in it I would be surpised if it was not 50 / 50.

[Gitter Dun]

I love a all aluminum 427 small block! the weight to power ratio for what your doing is awesome. And taking 175LBS or so off the nose will make a huge impact in your weight balance. I will be curious to see where your at when you scale it. With you in it I would be surpised if it was not 50 / 50.

50/50 would be cool but I dont know. Before build car was at 3220. Minus 110 for block and flywheel, about 80 for front end, might be 3030 lbs. New seats probley take another 8-10 lbs off but I may not keep them, I really likes my other ones. Gonna try new one's at Buttonwillow on the 28th but I'll probly throw olds one's in trailor just in case.

I was 187 lbs before surgeries 10 weeks ago and now I'm 162. Weight loss the hard way but I'll take it. Thats 25 lbs right there, LOL.

3030 + 160 = 3190.

Hopefully someone will have scales at track

[FadedSS]

Matt, there is a car show up here June 13th, you should come up. By the way, love the vette. It was pretty funny walking through the lobby of the Fairmont with a flex plate in hand.
Sweet, please give me the details on the show. I won't have the Camaro ready by that time but can always roll in the z06. lol at the flexplate! thanks for the compliment too!

[Gitter Dun]

Got my car back home from Kens Custom Auto Body and Paint last night. Had a busy day today. Completed grill, bumper, and side marker light install and then installed engine, trans, driveshaft, and radiator.

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[Rick D]

Looking good!! Post up a video so we can hear that bad boy :yum:

[Gitter Dun]

Looking good!! Post up a video so we can hear that bad boy :yum:

LOL, yeah for sure, along with a first through second tire smoker. Got her scheduled for exhaust install first thing Monday morning.

I'm gonna have to pull the new headers back off due to interfering with my rack-n-pinion steering shaft. Really ticks me off but oh well.

I will throw 1 3/4" super comps back on temporarily until I find someone local that can customize the driver side header.

[Gitter Dun]

Sweet, please give me the details on the show. I won't have the Camaro ready by that time but can always roll in the z06. lol at the flexplate! thanks for the compliment too!

It was posted on a sign off of HWY 50. The only info I have is that its at HWY 50 and Cambridge Rd in Cameron Park. Cambridge Rd is 2 exits up from El Dorado Hills Blvd about 2-3 miles up.

[FadedSS]

It was posted on a sign off of HWY 50. The only info I have is that its at HWY 50 and Cambridge Rd in Cameron Park. Cambridge Rd is 2 exits up from El Dorado Hills Blvd about 2-3 miles up.
thanks for the info man. car is looking great, cant wait to see a vid!

[Gitter Dun]

Car is at Caspers Muffler Service in Shingle Springs getting exhaust installed today. Bad news is its with my 1 3/4" headers and not my new 2". The 2" conflicted with my steering shaft. I also had to beat on them with a hammer to clear control arm. Do yourselves a favor and never buy 2" primary headers from Hooker. They shorted me the sub flanges and the 3 collector pipes that are supposed to come with them. Luckily Summit will take them back.Here are some photos of engine and header conflict with steering.


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[Gitter Dun]

Had to pull motor back out due to oil pan leaking. I also found leak at front of intake. NYES Racing Engines suck and I'm gonna tell them so on Monday. I was supposed to be at Buttonwillow today but had to stay a t home to fix their ****. Also cost me $30 cancellation fee with Speed Ventures.

When I pulled pan I noticed a couple of pieces of cork gasket material at bottom of pan. When I pulled screen off above windage tray I found alot more. They never trimmed the cork gasket around the rod bolts. MF'rs!!!!!

Had more photos but Photobucket not resizing when I post here. This photo is cork gasket material under windage screen


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[Gitter Dun]

On a good note, I got my exhaust installed a couple of days ago. 3" all the way out by Caspers Muffler Service in Diamond Springs.

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[MrQuick]

damn, i hate headers period...

I used to have to re-pipe alot of new stuff to get to work...my boss hated denting headers so i got stuck re doing the drivers side. Probably didn't help working next door to Sandersons....

its coming together...you go a week and a day...thats like a 160 hours..
vince

[Gitter Dun]

If I can get these oil leaks taken care of!!!! Either way I'll probly take car, but if still has leaks I wont run it. I am PO'd to say the least. Was supposed to be at Buttonwillow today but got stuck fixing their work. Cost me $30 cancelation fee from Speed Ventures.

[MrQuick]

that does suck, well to make you feel better I heard the weather sucked!!

Vince

[Vegas69]

Damn man, that does suck. The leak didn't show up on the dyno?

[68sixspeed]

Very cool build! Don't let the oil leaks get you down, I'm still chasing them out of mine after 18 years of the same car. I even tried the 1pc pan gaskets, still get some drips in the parking places. It does keep the underbody from rusting though! -Dan

[Gitter Dun]

Damn man, that does suck. The leak didn't show up on the dyno?

If it leaked on the dyno I sure didn't see it. What really pisses me off is that they didn't trim the cork pan gasket around the rod bolts and mains. If they skimped there where else did they skimp.

So tell me, would you guys trust it on the road course? Or do I send It back to them now and tell them I want my money back before I possobly grenade it there?

Thats the $10,000 question of the day for me.

[Gitter Dun]

that does suck, well to make you feel better I heard the weather sucked!!

Vince

Thanks Vince, I was hoping it rained there. That would make me feel a lot better.

[Gitter Dun]

Very cool build! Don't let the oil leaks get you down, I'm still chasing them out of mine after 18 years of the same car. I even tried the 1pc pan gaskets, still get some drips in the parking places. It does keep the underbody from rusting though! -Dan

I'm wondering if there is to much crank case pressure. Thinking about plumbing 1/2" lines into back of valve covers and tying into collector.

[Ripped]

Sorry to hear about your oil leaks and engine saga. Kind of going through similar issues ripping the engine, in and out again and again is not fun.

Have you opened the oil filter, to see what is inside the filter?

The excess cork is a PITA, but likely didn't get all through the system or past the filter.

I'd be more concerned if you saw an excess amount of bearing material in the filter

[MrQuick]

I'm wondering if there is to much crank case pressure. Thinking about plumbing 1/2" lines into back of valve covers and tying into collector.
eeek i hope not. If they used cork on the intake fronts then i'd say no.

Reminds me of the time a guy used full synthetic to break in the motor and the rings failed to seat. I assume your builder was smart enough not to make that mistake.

Vince

[Vegas69]

You have plenty of crancase ventilation there. Especially since you haven't even raced it. The engine made good power. Hopefully it's just leaks.

[Gitter Dun]

Sorry to hear about your oil leaks and engine saga. Kind of going through similar issues ripping the engine, in and out again and again is not fun.

Have you opened the oil filter, to see what is inside the filter?

The excess cork is a PITA, but likely didn't get all through the system or past the filter.

I'd be more concerned if you saw an excess amount of bearing material in the filter

I just got back from dropping engine back in. I have a System One remote oil filter with removable filter screen checked and cleaned it before dropping engine in. I didn't see anything that looked like bearing material so I think thats a good sign. There was a thicker viscosity fluid in the pan at the bottom though, silver in color. I'm hoping that is some sort of assembly lube. Any ideas?

[Gitter Dun]

eeek i hope not. If they used cork on the intake fronts then i'd say no.

Reminds me of the time a guy used full synthetic to break in the motor and the rings failed to seat. I assume your builder was smart enough not to make that mistake.

Vince

I dont think anybody uses gaskets in front of the intake anymore. I never have. Typically a thick bead of Permatex. I think he's probably a good builder, just buried in work. Took him 6 weeks to get motor to me and started it in the 5th week. We set a schedule for me to come and watch dyno pull and I think he rushed some of it.

[Gitter Dun]

You have plenty of crancase ventilation there. Especially since you haven't even raced it. The engine made good power. Hopefully it's just leaks.

Thanks. I'm used to seeing a little leaking but after the first time I fired it up after about 5 minutes of idling I had a 4" diameter puddle under my car coming dead center between the bellhousing and the engine. That is way to much. Also, the oil pan bolts were way to loose.

After pulling the pan the gasket and Permatex were practically falling off. He definitely did not clean the surfaces properly before installing pan gaskets.

[Ripped]

I just got back from dropping engine back in. I have a System One remote oil filter with removable filter screen checked and cleaned it before dropping engine in. I didn't see anything that looked like bearing material so I think thats a good sign. There was a thicker viscosity fluid in the pan at the bottom though, silver in color. I'm hoping that is some sort of assembly lube. Any ideas?

I think bearing material would show up as babbit between the filter folds. I don't know what the silver stuff would be, maybe assembly lube, zinc additive, some minor normal break-in stuff.

Sounds okay

[Gitter Dun]

I think bearing material would show up as babbit between the filter folds. I don't know what the silver stuff would be, maybe assembly lube, zinc additive, some minor normal break-in stuff.

Sounds okay

Thanks, I was thinking some sort of additive or assembly lube also. Filter folds looked fine.

[Jims78elky]

Thanks. I'm used to seeing a little leaking but after the first time I fired it up after about 5 minutes of idling I had a 4" diameter puddle under my car coming dead center between the bellhousing and the engine. That is way to much. Also, the oil pan bolts were way to loose.

After pulling the pan the gasket and Permatex were practically falling off. He definitely did not clean the surfaces properly before installing pan gaskets.


I don't feel comfortable with the way the engine builder did this engine,leaks and cork material in the build? I think you said it yourself "If they skimped there,where else did they skimp?" I would hate to see you get screwed for that much money.Tell the builder your bringing back there engine,have them correct the issues,you shouldn't have to fix ''there problems'' and for that kind of cash the engine should be 100% drop in and go,all the bugs and leaks should have been addressed on the dyno runs,that's why we pay them the big bucks,being a lazy engine builder should not cost the customer!

Wow..I wish you luck on everything.

-Jim

[Vegas69]

Certainly sounds pretty half assed. Hopefully it was just a couple leaks.

[Gitter Dun]

I don't feel comfortable with the way the engine builder did this engine,leaks and cork material in the build? I think you said it yourself "If they skimped there,where else did they skimp?" I would hate to see you get screwed for that much money.Tell the builder your bringing back there engine,have them correct the issues,you shouldn't have to fix ''there problems'' and for that kind of cash the engine should be 100% drop in and go,all the bugs and leaks should have been addressed on the dyno runs,that's why we pay them the big bucks,being a lazy engine builder should cost the customer!

Wow..I wish you luck on everything.

-Jim

Thanks Jim, I couldn't have said it better myself. I didn't see any bearing material in the pan or the filter folds so I'm hoping all is good.

I dropped the motor back in after fixing their work and finally took her for a ride Today. So far all is good. Minor tuning needed that I will save for tomorrow.

I dont have it in me to pull that motor again. I work alone and I am friken beat.

I'm gonna call those guys Tuesday and work on getting back some compensation for fixing their work.

[Gitter Dun]

Certainly sounds pretty half assed. Hopefully it was just a couple leaks.

Definitely half ass on pan and intake install. Hopefully the rest is OK cause I'm still taking her to Buttonwillow next weekend.

[Gitter Dun]

OK, took her for a ride today. Leaks seem to be under control.

Totally different car now. I can really feel all of the wait that was taken off the front of the car. When I get on her and hit the torque curve the back of the car bounces. I think with all of the weight taken off the front the rear needs to be adjusted and I may have to go to softer springs up front.

I'm gonna bring 3 sets of front springs to Buttonwillow next weekend and try and dial her in.

When I'm done tuning car tomorrow I'll post pic's

[Jims78elky]

Thanks Jim, I couldn't have said it better myself. I didn't see any bearing material in the pan or the filter folds so I'm hoping all is good.

I dropped the motor back in after fixing their work and finally took her for a ride Today. So far all is good. Minor tuning needed that I will save for tomorrow.

I dont have it in me to pull that motor again. I work alone and I am friken beat.

I'm gonna call those guys Tuesday and work on getting back some compensation for fixing their work.


Hey man that's Awesome!! Iam happy to hear that you got it all sorted out and no more issues,but your right about calling them and letting there owner know what stress you had to go through,and that maybe somebody else with not as much patience or time would have not been very happy,or would be so forgiving, they should at least refund you the Buttonwillow money you lost out on,there time is money...and let them understand so is yours!

Enjoy that new engine..and let us know how she goes!

:cool:


-Jim

[Ripped]

Glad to hear it's working out.

I spent the weekend makng a run-up test stand for mine. I don't hav it in me, to haul it out again either, so I am going to check the thing completely for leaks, before I even drop it in the car.

I am so frickin beat from redoing the engine re & re again :( the only thing that's good, is the weather has been $#itty, and I would not have been driving, it much

[Gitter Dun]

Glad to hear it's working out.

I spent the weekend makng a run-up test stand for mine. I don't hav it in me, to haul it out again either, so I am going to check the thing completely for leaks, before I even drop it in the car.

I am so frickin beat from redoing the engine re & re again :( the only thing that's good, is the weather has been $#itty, and I would not have been driving, it much

I feel your pain buddy. I'll say a prayer for you tonight, LOL. Glad to hear the weather is in your favor.

[Gitter Dun]

Well the gremlins continue to haunt my car. I took her for a ride this morning and as I was just getting home(Luckily) I lost a radiator hose. I wanted to dial in the timing but everything is closed so It will wait till tomorrow. I also noticed oil under the car which means not only was my pan leaking but now my rear main seal too. Just Wonderful!!

On a good note, I got the opportunity to cut a coil off my front springs.


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[Ripped]

Well the gremlins continue to haunt my car. I took her for a ride this morning and as I was just getting home(Luckily) I lost a radiator hose. I wanted to dial in the timing but everything is closed so It will wait till tomorrow. I also noticed oil under the car which means not only was my pan leaking but now my rear main seal too. Just Wonderful!!

On a good note, I got the opportunity to cut a coil off my front springs.


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The stance looks good.

Really, though, you have more oil issues?

Did you do anything with the rear seal when it came out before?

Can you get at it from under the car?

Ohh man, that sucks

[MrQuick]

damn. are you absolutly sure its the oil pan? Could it be up higher? Hope you get it sorted out.

Vince

[6'9"Witha69]

That sounds like a bunch of crap. Time for the builder to pay to have a local shop fix it for you.

also, are your tires on backwards?

[Gitter Dun]

Good catch on the tires, I new I had to swap them around just hadn,t gotten to it yet.

[Gitter Dun]

That sounds like a bunch of crap. Time for the builder to pay to have a local shop fix it for you.

also, are your tires on backwards?

Builder is on east coast time which makes it hard for me to contact him while I am working. Tried to call todayat 3:00 p.m my time and no answer so left e-mail. Basically told him he needs to make this right again.

After I replaced oil pan gasket it no longer leaked so when I first start it no leaks like before. When I get back from driving it I get about 3 ounces of oil on the floor. May not sound like a lot but I think it is. I just wonder how much I lose total while driving.

Hopefully this guy acts in good faith. If it was me I would. What is right is right or he could chalk it up to bad Karma.

[Vegas69]

That's way to much. You'll burn up your clutch quick. I wouldn't want anymore than a pinky nail. Maybe you should just tear it out and have it gone through by another builder. Sure seems like a real hack job. I've got a great engine builder in Hesperia. Jason Pettis

[Gitter Dun]

That's way to much. You'll burn up your clutch quick. I wouldn't want anymore than a pinky nail. Maybe you should just tear it out and have it gone through by another builder. Sure seems like a real hack job. I've got a great engine builder in Hesperia. Jason Pettis

I thought about the clutch but I'd hate to miss Buttonwillow. Man this is killing me.

Right now I'm thinking I am going to chance it. If I could make Buttonwillow and the Spectre341Challenge thats all I ask.

I still haven't even fully opened up the secondaries yet and she feels pretty strong. Got rid of the torque bounce in the rear by adjusting shocks. Took her around a couple of loop freeway entrances and there might be a slight push.

Was in fear of getting ticket so I didn't push to hard but right now handling feels better than decent.

[68sixspeed]

Any chance that you are getting excess blow-by or crankcase pressure pushing the oil out? (check your breathers?) Just a thought, sometimes these oil leaks are not necessarily the gaskets fault but a sign of something else.

Or could it be higher up since it sounds like your pan seal was re-done... crank seal, one of the 3 plugs at the back of the cam, rear of the intake, etc?

I had a pan leak turn out to be a weld-in bung for the oil heater. It doesn't take much to make a huge mess.

-Dan

[CurtiSS 69]

Any chance that you are getting excess blow-by or crankcase pressure pushing the oil out? (check your breathers?) Just a thought, sometimes these oil leaks are not necessarily the gaskets fault but a sign of something else.

Or could it be higher up since it sounds like your pan seal was re-done... crank seal, one of the 3 plugs at the back of the cam, rear of the intake, etc?

I had a pan leak turn out to be a weld-in bung for the oil heater. It doesn't take much to make a huge mess.

-Dan

Hang in there Cos. I understand why you are not happy -and justifiably so- but look at the big picture as well. It sounds like the motor runs really strong and that is the most important thing. I agree with Dan that it could be a bunch of little things that are making up the oil spot now that you fixed the pan gasket. BTW almost all 2 pc main SBC seals leak some, and this is the reason they went to the 1 pc type. Go to Buttonwillow and have a great time. Those little Alfa's are going to say what the hell was that as you motor by them at warp speed on the track. I can't wait to see the video!!!

Regards

CurtiSS 69

[cheapthrillz]

I'm still waiting on this so called 1st to 2nd burnout video.... lol.

I like your build style..... Need something..... go freaking get it!

Hope your luck changes!

[Ripped]

Yeah... hoping for good luck, for you

Sounds like a rear main seal though.

[Gitter Dun]

I'm still waiting on this so called 1st to 2nd burnout video.... lol.

I like your build style..... Need something..... go freaking get it!

Hope your luck changes!

Right on, I'm glad you didn't forget!! Just feeling motor out before I tear into her. I haven't even fully opened up the secondaries yet.

But trust me, I'll slam second without even lifting my foot, LOL.

Thanks for all the support guy's. You are solid people. Hope to see you at an event some time.

[Gitter Dun]

Any chance that you are getting excess blow-by or crankcase pressure pushing the oil out? (check your breathers?) Just a thought, sometimes these oil leaks are not necessarily the gaskets fault but a sign of something else.

Or could it be higher up since it sounds like your pan seal was re-done... crank seal, one of the 3 plugs at the back of the cam, rear of the intake, etc?

I had a pan leak turn out to be a weld-in bung for the oil heater. It doesn't take much to make a huge mess.



-Dan

I checked everything and it is definitely the rear seal. I thought about excessive crankcase pressure but ruled it out after fixing intake and pan gaskets.

[Gitter Dun]

Took car out again after work today. Fully opened up the secondaries for the first time.

I normally take a short drive down Green valley Rd, pull in at the parking lot of the Purple Place(yocal hangout), drive through parking lot and see a bunch of Harley's and a red 64 pro-touring vet. I slowly drive by idling(rumpeta, rumpeta,rumpeta) as they stare at me from the outside tables. Then I get to the edge of the parking lot pointed back up Green Valley Rd, slowly pull out and then stomped on it, LMAO. HOLY $#it !! Broke tires loose up to about 6 grand then hit second and rear squatted and pulled.

Reminded me of when I used to pull outta the parking lot after high school got out almost 30 years ago, LOL.

[John Wright]

Reminded me of when I used to pull outta the parking lot after high school got out almost 30 years ago, LOL.
LOL, Yup I can still hear the principal yelling at me......we had to turn left, uphill to get out of our parking lot....so the burnout ended being a very long one.

Hows the oil situation?

[Ripped]

Sounds like a fun little burnout. It's very cool what you can do with the old school big blocks, a little aluminum, the new technology and abundance of modern parts.

Was it staying straight down the road?

[Gitter Dun]

LOL, Yup I can still hear the principal yelling at me......we had to turn left, uphill to get out of our parking lot....so the burnout ended being a very long one.

Hows the oil situation?

Just got back from Buttonwillow a day and a half early. Oil leaks worse now and motor definitely needs to come out.

[Gitter Dun]

Sounds like a fun little burnout. It's very cool what you can do with the old school big blocks, a little aluminum, the new technology and abundance of modern parts.

Was it staying straight down the road?

Yeah it stayed straight which was nice.

[BuzzKillian]

Do you have any wheel hop? I have the first stage Global West leaf springs, and was really hoping not to have to use traction bars. (hate the way they look)

[Gitter Dun]

Do you have any wheel hop? I have the first stage Global West leaf springs, and was really hoping not to have to use traction bars. (hate the way they look)

No wheel hop. I changed my QA-1 single adjustable shocks to lowest setting and car squats and goes. When I set it to highest setting I would get a torque bounce.

I definitely dont recommend traction bars. Just not the way to go these days.

[Jims78elky]

Just got back from Buttonwillow a day and a half early. Oil leaks worse now and motor definitely needs to come out.

Wow..sorry about the engine deal..I just had a bad feeling when you first mentioned the problems,sounds far too familiar. I would love to see you take this engine to a reputable engine builder and have them completely go through the whole build,I think we all would be in for a shock,when you find out that most of the parts are crap,or probably installed wrong,or not built with the right tolerances.

I don't mean to bash this engine builder,but I think whats going on with your engine just seems fishy to me,and I would hate for some shop to basically doggy screw some hard working guy who supports this hobby out of serious money. Hopefully,this engine builder will step up and take care of the issue and make it right,but if they start acting like its your fault,or there has 'never been a problem before' crap,then you know who your dealing with.

Hope your time at the track was fun..too bad about the engine though.

Good luck with it all...

-Jim

[John Wright]

Just got back from Buttonwillow a day and a half early. Oil leaks worse now and motor definitely needs to come out.Aw..rats!

[Gitter Dun]

Finally talked to one of the engine builders today. To ship motor back and forth would be about $700 so he is going to talk to his brother when he gets back from lunch.

Hopefully we can come up with a reasonable solution. If they have to eat the cost of shipping, so be it, I just need it back in time to make Spectre341Challenge.

[John Wright]

Is there a local shop that they can recommend(someone they trust) to fix this up for you and then they just pick up the tab....I expect that would be much cheaper for them and quicker for you....just a thought.

[Gitter Dun]

Is there a local shop that they can recommend(someone they trust) to fix this up for you and then they just pick up the tab....I expect that would be much cheaper for them and quicker for you....just a thought.

Awesome idea, and definitely the prefered way for me. We'll find out in about an hour.

[MarkM66]

Are the only issues with the engine oil leaks?

Why not just change the gaskets yourself?

I know you're not happy with the engine leaking, but to me, changing a few gaskets would be less hassle then crating the engine back up, shipping, waiting, recieving, uncrating, etc..

[Gitter Dun]

Are the only issues with the engine oil leaks?

Why not just change the gaskets yourself?

I know you're not happy with the engine leaking, but to me, changing a few gaskets would be less hassle then crating the engine back up, shipping, waiting, recieving, uncrating, etc..

I agree, but due to rear main seal leak I dont want them saying that I pulled the rear main cap off and then torqued it down wrong or something like that.

Also, after Buttunwillow, I got leaks from front of engine only under load so I couldn't verify with hood up. I had puddles in my front cross members and thinking might be front seal.

I honestly think internals are OK, engine ran strong on road course.

[6'9"Witha69]

I have had "fresh" "Strong" engines grenade rather quickly. Just because it pulls hard, doesn't mean it's running right.

Also,

That sounds like a bunch of crap. Time for the builder to pay to have a local shop fix it for you.As you can tell I agree to have the builder pay for local service.

[Gitter Dun]

I have had "fresh" "Strong" engines grenade rather quickly. Just because it pulls hard, doesn't mean it's running right.

Also,
As you can tell I agree to have the builder pay for local service.

Hmm......Duly noted. He asked for pics of breather set up, sent him pics of breather set up and oil in my front frame rails, I talked to his brother and he said there shouldn't be any crank case ventilation issues.

Think your right, time to pull the local builder card.

I'm gonna give Rex Hutchinson a call and see what he says.

[TT302Z28]

Gaetano....I would give Dan at Rex Hutchinson Racing a call. He is off Auburn Blvd taking a right off Madison if you are coming from Hwy80.

they are the best around our area.

[Ripped]

Yeah, if you're talking with your original engine builder,
see if you can get them to cover part of the shipping

I can understand why they would want to repair the engine themselves, and review it, in order to warranty it.

It might even be cheaper for them to fly a mechanic out to you.

Why not offer him dinner and overnight lodgings, see if he'll fly one of his guys out, to you... worth a shot, maybe over a weekend.

[Gitter Dun]

Gaetano....I would give Dan at Rex Hutchinson Racing a call. He is off Auburn Blvd taking a right off Madison if you are coming from Hwy80.

they are the best around our area.

Just talked to Dan at Rex Hutchison Racing Engines. Gonna drop engine off there by Friday and they said they could have it back to me within a few days.

Gonna give NYES a chance to redeem themselves(if even possible) by manning up and picking up the tab. If they dont I will post photos of the cork gasket that was in my pan along with bashing the **** out of them everywhere and every chance I get.

[TT302Z28]

I'm sorry to hear about the trouble. I had a 383 that kept eating it's rear main thrust surface after paying big money to have a company in Roseville do the Machine work. Don't want to mention any names but they are in ROSEVILLE and they do ENGINE MACHINE work. I had the engine torn down and inspected by them and they said it was my torque converter. I replaced the engine and didn't connect the torque converter on the next try. Guess what, it ate the thrust surface again. When it became obvious they couldn't figure out what they did I took the engine to Dan and Rex. The SCAT crank thrust surface was warped and they made it straight with little cost.

I've had them do all of the machine work we need now.

[Gitter Dun]

Yeah, if you're talking with your original engine builder,
see if you can get them to cover part of the shipping

I can understand why they would want to repair the engine themselves, and review it, in order to warranty it.

It might even be cheaper for them to fly a mechanic out to you.

Why not offer him dinner and overnight lodgings, see if he'll fly one of his guys out, to you... worth a shot, maybe over a weekend.

Just talked to the engine builder again, he wants me to ship it out and he will cover all costs. He says he spent extra time on the rear seal to insure it wouldn't leak and that there may be other issues especially since the front is leaking also. I told him that it was hard to believe that he spent the time when I found cork in the pan.

Am I gambling sending it back out to him?

[6'9"Witha69]

If he is picking up the shipping tab, and iyou would have to r&r the engine no matter who looks at it, I would send it to him. But let him know this is his last shot, so he better get it right, otherwise the next thing he receives will be a bill from Rex Hutchinson racing.

[Gitter Dun]

If he is picking up the shipping tab, and iyou would have to r&r the engine no matter who looks at it, I would send it to him. But let him know this is his last shot, so he better get it right, otherwise the next thing he receives will be a bill from Rex Hutchinson racing.

Yup, you are definitely right on that one.

Motor is out of car now and on shipping cradle. Gonna finish shipping crate tomorrow and send it off. he says I should see it back by next Friday.

[Jims78elky]

Am I gambling sending it back out to him?

Yea..because he doesen't want another builder to see what crap he used in this engine build,I would of sent it to Rex Hutchinson racing,so they could go through the complete build..Man..I just know this engine is a turd!

Good luck GG, I hope it works out with your original guy..Did they provide you a build sheet of what parts were used..brand names if any and type/specs torque specs..balancing numbers,things like that?


-Jim

[John Wright]

Why are they still using cork?...I figured with a higher end build they would have used the blue neo gaskets as they seal so much better and are reuseable.... particularly at the pan and valve covers.

[Gitter Dun]

Yea..because he doesen't want another builder to see what crap he used in this engine build,I would of sent it to Rex Hutchinson racing,so they could go through the complete build..Man..I just know this engine is a turd!

Good luck GG, I hope it works out with your original guy..Did they provide you a build sheet of what parts were used..brand names if any and type/specs torque specs..balancing numbers,things like that?


-Jim

I've had the pan off and seen the internals, all good there. I also have build sheet and specs including torque specs. All the pistons have JE stamped on them and the rods looked good. I think were OK as far as parts and pieces go, just leak issues.

I am really tempted to take it to Hutchison even if it came out of my own pocket but I think the right thing to do is give them a chance to fix there own work.

These guys didn't seem like sheisters so I think they mean well.

Crossing my fingers, It's all I could do.

[Ripped]

I think that things will work out with your original engine builder.
**** happens sometimes. Crankshaft seals do fail. What more can they do, if they are willing to pay 100% for shipping, and are willing to fix it.

Certainly express concern on your part, with the excess gasket issue.

All engine builders are going to have their own opinions and own way of doing things.

I had a similar thing happen with my engine guy. People were knocking my guy, after the bearing failure, but he stood behind his product.

Unfortunately, nobody in this industry pays you for your re and re labour, on any part. Even if they stand behind their product.

Keep us aprised.

[sik68]

I've had the pan off and seen the internals, all good there. I also have build sheet and specs including torque specs. All the pistons have JE stamped on them and the rods looked good. I think were OK as far as parts and pieces go, just leak issues.

I am really tempted to take it to Hutchison even if it came out of my own pocket but I think the right thing to do is give them a chance to fix there own work.

These guys didn't seem like sheisters so I think they mean well.

Crossing my fingers, It's all I could do.

I think you're doing the right thing sending to NYES. Let them stand behind their product and make it right....Rex Hutchison does awesome work so you always have them in your back pocket.

PS if you talk to Dan again, tell him Steve Martinez' motor is running great! Actually I have an idea...I'll straight-trade you my Rex Hutchison motor for your NYES motor :)

[MrQuick]

Im with these guys, don't let a possible 9 dollar seal put an there wise good builder in the can. All it takes is a mis step to pop that little spring off the beal lip.


Let him check it out and correct the problem.

Good luck Gae.
Vince

[Gitter Dun]

Im with these guys, don't let a possible 9 dollar seal put an there wise good builder in the can. All it takes is a mis step to pop that little spring off the beal lip.


Let him check it out and correct the problem.

Good luck Gae.
Vince

Thanks, engine is in my truck now and i'm on my way to the terminal.

[John Wright]

Good Luck GC....hope they can get it fixed up for ya...(quickly)

[Gitter Dun]

Spoke with engine builder this morning 5:00 a.m. my time 8:00 a.m. his. He says he found problem with rear main seal and thinks leak up front was coming from intake. Hope he's right.

He said he would be shipping it back today. Need to get it back soon so that I could make the Spectre 341 challenge.

Probly going to have to put it in after work. Shouldn't be more than 5 hours work to get on the road again.

Only thing that sucks is that I will be working overtime all week next week and will be beat trying to put it in.

Dead lines, Dead lines,......seems the norm lately.

[Ripped]

Lots of caffeine. That usually works for me ;)

[Gitter Dun]

Lots of caffeine. That usually works for me ;)

At my age its caffein and advil's for the muscle aches. For the first time I just picked up a tranny jack. Never used to have a prob muscleing up the tranny from under the car while on jackstands........, now..., Sheesh!!

[Gitter Dun]

Picked up motor from shipping terminal today. Flywheel, clutch, and bellhousing installed tonight. Dropping motor in car tomorrow. Should wrap it up Wednesday. Plan is to drive and tune Thursday and leave for Reno Thursday night or Friday morning to Spectre341challenge.

[John Wright]

At my age its caffein and advil's for the muscle aches. For the first time I just picked up a tranny jack. Never used to have a prob muscleing up the tranny from under the car while on jackstands........, now..., Sheesh!!
LOL...I know what you mean!.....I don't know if I'm just getting old, or that dang Viper T56 is heavier than what I'm used to pressing up into place while laying on my back......uggh. My arms thought I would never get that baby slipped up into the clutch....LOL

[Gitter Dun]

LOL...I know what you mean!.....I don't know if I'm just getting old, or that dang Viper T56 is heavier than what I'm used to pressing up into place while laying on my back......uggh. My arms thought I would never get that baby slipped up into the clutch....LOL

LMAO, a T56 has to be heavier than an M-22. Well, at least we're gettin' a workout, LOL.

[Ripped]

LOL...I know what you mean!.....I don't know if I'm just getting old, or that dang Viper T56 is heavier than what I'm used to pressing up into place while laying on my back......uggh. My arms thought I would never get that baby slipped up into the clutch....LOL

Yeah, I confess, I've whimped out too.

Buying proper tools is bad enough, but I've gone from a manual steering big block, an arm wrestling toploader with a seeming 2 1/2 foot shift throw, a clutch pedal that you nearly had to use two feet to push it down, to power steering, TKO, and a clutch assist spring...

Guess I am getting old :hmm: LOL

Let us know how the engine goes, after you patch up your knuckles ;)

[Gitter Dun]

Yeah, I confess, I've whimped out too.

Buying proper tools is bad enough, but I've gone from a manual steering big block, an arm wrestling toploader with a seeming 2 1/2 foot shift throw, a clutch pedal that you nearly had to use two feet to push it down, to power steering, TKO, and a clutch assist spring...

Guess I am getting old :hmm: LOL

Let us know how the engine goes, after you patch up your knuckles ;)


Funny you mention knuckles, last time around I sliced my right hand fore finger Knuckle close to the bone and kept working and banging it for two days.

Hand swelled up and ended up having to get a tetnis shot and 10 days worth of antibiotics. Now I have a permanent lump on my knuckle from an enlarged bone build up on top of knuckle, lol.

[MrQuick]

gotta watch that staph infection too bubba

I lost 3 good friends from staph infection complications. Most injuries were very small.


LMAO, a T56 has to be heavier than an M-22. Well, at least we're gettin' a workout, LOL.

check you guys out liftin heavy stuff. You gotta be like meand get your ASE (Ask Someone Else) license. LOL

vince

[Smock67]

Wow just read through this entire thread, besides all the issues with the engine your build is certainly coming together nicely. I hope they fixed your issues with the engine and they will actually stand behind their product.

[Jims78elky]

Picked up motor from shipping terminal today. Flywheel, clutch, and bellhousing installed tonight. Dropping motor in car tomorrow. Should wrap it up Wednesday. Plan is to drive and tune Thursday and leave for Reno Thursday night or Friday morning to Spectre341challenge.

Awesome!

Great news about the engine repair,and that the builder treated you right about fixing the leaking seal problem. It sounds like you should be back at the track soon with a good strong leak free engine!

Keep the updates coming!

:cheers:


-Jim

[John Wright]

Did you get to fire the engine yet?...hopefully they were able to fix all of the seals/gaskets for you this time.<fingers crossed>

[Gitter Dun]

Did you get to fire the engine yet?...hopefully they were able to fix all of the seals/gaskets for you this time.<fingers crossed>

Yes John, thanks for asking, motor was dropped in and finally fired up Thursday night. I left for the 341 Challenge Friday morning at 4:00 a.m and got there at 7:00 a.m.. Other than having trouble breathing at elevations between 5000 and 6000 feet all went well and had no oil leak problems.

[MrQuick]

Yes John, thanks for asking, motor was dropped in and finally fired up Thursday night. I left for the 341 Challenge Friday morning at 4:00 a.m and got there at 7:00 a.m.. Other than having trouble breathing at elevations between 5000 and 6000 feet all went well and had no oil leak problems.
yes, finally. :cheers:

[John Wright]

no oil leak problems.woohoo!:fingersx:hopefully they got it...now go run the heck out of it...:cheers:

[cheapthrillz]

This means burnout video right? lol

Congrats on making your deadline and sticking with it!

[FadedSS]

thats great to hear you got everything sorted out. congrats again on the build, im sure that motor is a monster!

[Gitter Dun]

This means burnout video right? lol

Congrats on making your deadline and sticking with it!

Thanks Guys, everything seems to be good. The 341 Challenge was a sketchy place to flog the car and I came across two minor issues.

For one, when I went full throttle the dip stick popped up and oil sprayed up the tube onto the header shedding smoke behind me but I fixed that by safety wiring dipstick down.

Other was losing one of the bolts that held my shifter to the linkage which made me mishift into third twice on one run and four times on another but that was easily fixed.

I am now out of money so I am done for awhile but hopefully in the winter my next projects will be aero and cleaning up sheetmetal such as smoothing fire wall, enlarging trans tunnel with inspection cover, and sheetmetal where the back seats used to be.

[Gitter Dun]

Just want to give out a special thanks to DREAM SPEED MOTORS for agreeing to sponsor my car. They have cleaned it up in more than a few areas and helped me gain a three second quicker track time at Buttonwillow 13 CW configuration.

A few more changes are being made as we speak and the goal is to hit 2:10 lap times September 25th at Buttonwillow 13 CW.

Encase some of you are not aware of the guys at DREAM SPEED, most of you should be familliar with one of them, Vince (Mr Quick).

The other would be Allen (ZBUGGER) whom pops in after his day job to help Vince after hours.

I've been in the shop when they have worked until 10:00 p.m. on a Saturday night. To me that shows total dedication and love for what they do.

And I cant forget Brian, Vince's partner. Thanks Brian for helping me afford my addiction to running road courses.

Thanks guys, cant tell you how much I appreciate your work and support.

[ProdigyCustoms]

Vince and Allen a couple really good dudes. Good for you to give them some well deserved props! I think they are a hiden treasure.

[MrQuick]

Thanks alot guys, we do what we can and I actually enjoy the 7 day 12 hour work weeks. Keeps me looking young. LOL

Thank you Gaetano for being an open minded customer and putting your trust in us.

mods, please don't freak out, we are working on our vendor status....Brians been busy keeping up with the bills. Its also a 24 hour job.
Vince

[Gitter Dun]

No worries, what we dont get done this month, we will get done next month.

I'm just happy you guys are making it easier for me to stay in the game.