View Full Version : Spike TV: Top 7 Types of Car Guys
sik68
03-01-2010, 03:20 PM
For gearheads, the car you drive says more about you than the clothes you wear or the company you keep. More than simply a status symbol, that car is extension of your personality and sense of style. As such, different personalities tend to gravitate toward certain cars that can sum up their whole situation in one quick glance.
7. Corvette Guy
There's no mistaking it - Corvettes are fast as hell. Straight off the showroom floor, a new ZR1 (or Z06, for that matter) will wipe the floor with just about anything else on the road, and usually for quite a bit less coin than comparable cars. To compliment that performance, Chevy has always included a healthy dose of "Please look at me!" styling. And that's probably the most significant ingredient in the Corvette because as awesome as 'Vettes are, they will be forever associated with middle aged men with middle class bank accounts, desperately trying to buy back their youth, and some attention to boot. C'est la vie, Corvette Guy.
6. Hot Rod Guy
There are actually two different types of hot rod guys. There's the Greaser contingent, the younger group who have an affinity for Social Distortion and '50s Americana culture who operate on a shoe-string budget and buy cool looking old beaters and get them back on the road, even occasionally make them fast. It's hard to knock these guys for much, mainly because most of them are usually pretty cool people whose hearts are in the right place.
Then there's the Street Rodders. While the majority of these guys just want to make old cars really plush and somewhat quick, there is a loud contingent of street rod enthusiasts which are older dudes trying to relive the good ol' days by pouring thousands upon thousands of dollars into '40s and '50s coupes and turning them into pastel-colored, '80s decal-covered abominations. I don't even know what the purpose of this is really, as most of these guys don't really even drive their cars, they just wax them in their garages and take them on trailers to car shows. I mean if you're going to take a badass car and make it look like that, as least have the balls to drive it around so we can mock you.
5. EVO/WRX Guy
Not to be confused with the dreaded Ricer crowd, the main desire of both Subaru WRX and Mitsubishi EVO drivers is to get the world to see them differently than the subwoofer-blasting, neon light-rocking notorious aspects of the import crowd. They strive for respect. And people who know what's up usually give credit where credit is due, while the naive just get smoked. Since both cars are four-door sedans instead of the two-door coupe layout which most people would associate with performance, they have a stealthy, sleeper aesthetic, which many see as a choice to focus more on "go" instead of "show."
So EVO/WRX guys, we know your cars don't suck. Really, we swear - you don't need to troll the comments every YouTube street racing video to preach the gospel of AWD and turbos. We already know.
4. Muscle Car Guy
The Muscle Car Guy's style might be the hardest to pin down, largely because they are perhaps the most widely varied bunch when it comes to style. But a common thread binds all of them together: a desire for big cars, loud V8s, cheap gas, and straight roads. Cornering often takes a back seat to the ability to lay down an awesome burnout.
The Muscle Car guys' turf is not the S curves of the Laguna Seca Raceway but the endless stretches of highway across the New Mexico desert. People don't love the Bullit chase for the lateral Gs that the Mustang GT and Charger R/T are producing in the turns; they love it for the roar of a big block 390 as in vanishes in a haze of tire smoke. Good thing, too, because the understeer in those cars is a bitch.
3. Ricers
Undoubtedly the most infamous faction of car enthusiasts, the Ricer is basically synonymous with "poseur." A ricer is the sort of guy who spends more time fantasizing about driving the cars in The Fast and the Furious and scoring with hawt chix than he does actually making his car fast. A ricer is the type of car guy who invests his money in huge plastic spoilers and door stickers to make his car look "tight" instead of actual performance-enhancing components for the engine, suspension, etc.
Ricers are the kinds of people who try to street race in populated areas, and in turn, give the entire automotive community a bad name. Ricers buy exhaust systems like this one and think that it sounds good. And if you don't like the sound of the muffler, well the 3,000-watt subwoofer blasting house techno beats will probably drown it out anyway. Basically... ricers, you suck.
2. Exotic Car Guy
Not satisfied by mere Vipers or Carreras, the Exotic Car Guy is less concerned with performance of the car than he is about, say, how rare it is, and how people will react to it. In that regard, the Exotic Guy is the epitome of the car guy who wants something that screams "this way, gold diggers!"
Unless Exotic Car Guy is hitting Willow Springs every weekend, there's no purpose for this car in an urban setting, other than to be a status symbol for what a fabulous lifestyle he leads. And when Exotic Car Guy drops $45,000 on an oil change, you know he must be pretty cool.
1. BMW Guy
The most enjoyable activity for BMW Car Guy is convincing everyone else that BMW makes the best cars in the world. There can be no other car better than a BMW M3. It is simply perfection. The BMW guy offers a level of pretense which can sometimes rival Exotic Car Guy, but at a much cheaper impact on his bank account (which also makes him better than the Exotic Car Guy).
BMW Car Guy is a refined sophisticate, and he has ascended beyond the juvenile need to do burnouts. BMW Car Guy is more concerned with car magazine statistics, expensive aftermarket wheels, nanotechnology car wax, and the latest watches in GQ magazine. BMW Car Guy would also ask that you ignore the slightly tacky carbon fiber roof on his ubercar. 'Course, BMW guy also has the obligatory hot Asian girlfriend, so he scores a tip 'o the hat regardless.
http://www.spike.com/blog/top-7-types-of-car/76375?page=1&numPerPage=1
I think we'll all have to disagree on the muscle-car one....but most of them are damn spot-on!
moreHP
03-01-2010, 03:27 PM
The ricer one made me laugh!!:rotfl:
I would personally agree with your assesment of their comments on the Musclecar crowd, but remember we as a group are somewhat of an anomoly. From the outside looking in...they are pretty accurate in their assessment of MOST musclecar guys.
The rest...yeah, they are spot-on.
Good stuff!
Tony_SS
03-01-2010, 05:09 PM
Ok someone do a writeup for the pro-touring guy. lol
6'9"Witha69
03-01-2010, 05:15 PM
Yes, we are an anomoly. Plain and simple. Every one is dead on.
Only surprised the Porsche guy was left out.
Takid455
03-01-2010, 05:46 PM
they left out the trivial fact/ difference between a cactus and a BMW.
the cactus has the pr!ck on the outside.:machine:
I do like the M3's though. was going to buy one until I dove into deep water w/ my 78 T/A project.
shmoov69
03-01-2010, 06:51 PM
Good! And correct!!
parsonsj
03-01-2010, 07:17 PM
I'll bet the guys on every other group's website are saying the same thing: "Spike nailed the other guys, but they are wrong about us".
:)
jp
shortrack
03-01-2010, 09:51 PM
pretty much on the money.
BMW guy...."concerned with latest watches in GQ magazine"......LOL!!!!!!
theres a few around here.....:bsjerk:
I'll bet the guys on every other group's website are saying the same thing: "Spike nailed the other guys, but they are wrong about us".
:)
jp
LOL...no kidding! Humans do have amazing clarity from a distance!
Tony_SS
03-02-2010, 06:43 AM
Only surprised the Porsche guy was left out.
Porsche guy = BMW guy
vanzuuk1
03-02-2010, 08:43 AM
John parsons , right again...
vanzuuk1
03-02-2010, 08:44 AM
The protouring guy- discussing bumpsteer on a car that will be driven to the ihop...making himself feel better by posting picks of "inferior" build styles..waiting breathlessly in a dimly lit room for mark stielow to post...hoping to view photos of badpenny every time it leaves the driveway...spending their kids college money on a metallic paint job...talking online about a car he will never build for a trackday that will never happen.
Lets see who can take a joke...
6'9"Witha69
03-02-2010, 08:49 AM
I'll bet the guys on every other group's website are saying the same thing: "Spike nailed the other guys, but they are wrong about us".
:)
jp
Dead nuts on!
ZuperZport
03-02-2010, 09:05 AM
The protouring guy- discussing bumpsteer on a car that will be driven to the ihop...
Lets see who can take a joke...
Dirk,
I am extremely offended about your rant. Bumpsteer will indeed be affected by how many pancakes are eaten at the IHOP.....get your facts straight there pal................:smoke:
Ha ha - jus foolin'.:)
vanzuuk1
03-02-2010, 09:08 AM
You can bring a scale into the bathroom after you finish your pancakes, then adjust accordingly.
406 Q-ship
03-02-2010, 09:20 AM
You can bring a scale into the bathroom after you finish your pancakes, then adjust accordingly.
....at least till you digest accordingly.......lol
Tony_SS
03-02-2010, 10:23 AM
The protouring guy- discussing bumpsteer on a car that will be driven to the ihop...making himself feel better by posting picks of "inferior" build styles..waiting breathlessly in a dimly lit room for mark stielow to post...hoping to view photos of badpenny every time it leaves the driveway...spending their kids college money on a metallic paint job...talking online about a car he will never build for a trackday that will never happen.
Lets see who can take a joke...
Spending thousands of dollars on Rushforth wheels and tires for a project that can't move on it own. Talking trash about pointless ricer mods while sporting billet door handles. Wondering if 14" 6 piston brakes are good enough to replace the rear drums?
:)
cheapthrillz
03-02-2010, 10:35 AM
The protouring guy- discussing bumpsteer on a car that will be driven to the ihop...making himself feel better by posting picks of "inferior" build styles..waiting breathlessly in a dimly lit room for mark stielow to post...hoping to view photos of badpenny every time it leaves the driveway...spending their kids college money on a metallic paint job...talking online about a car he will never build for a trackday that will never happen.
Lets see who can take a joke...
Spending thousands of dollars on Rushforth wheels and tires for a project that can't move on it own. Talking trash about pointless ricer mods while sporting billet door handles. Wondering if 14" 6 piston brakes are good enough to replace the rear drums?
:)
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAH!!!!!
I love this site!
If anybody is offended by these two posts, then they need to ban themselves! lol
Spot on gents..... spot on!
Edit: I have to throw in my two cents.... what about the general car guy? I like everything about all of the groups mentioned, but I don't fit into any of them (like most members on this website). I like all cars types. Each and every one has its own unique style: Donks, mudders, rock crawlers, racers, ricers, look-at-me's, hella flushers, imports, trailer queens, track whores, stockers, old, new, red, blue...... (had to stop... started turning into Dr. Seuss)
Matt@BOS
03-02-2010, 11:17 AM
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAH!!!!!
I love this site!
If anybody is offended by these two posts, then they need to ban themselves! lol
Spot on gents..... spot on!
Agreed. I've also written my take, so if said people haven't banned themselves, I suggest they do before reading further...
Pro touring guy, not to be mistaken for hotrod guy, or muscle car guy, is a small demographic within the car community. Pro-touring guy comes in many forms, and can best be described as a varying amalgamation of Evo guy, and street rod, with perhaps a dash of BMW guy and even exotic guy thrown in, although one would be extremely reticent to admit such similarities to either of the two latter groups. Like Evo guy, pro touring guy has a chip on his shoulder. He wants to prove that his old car is every bit as capable as a modern sports car. In his haste to accomplish such a feat, he often times spends enough cash to make street rod guy blush. As for the several BMW guy traits apparent in pro touring guy, he is thoroughly convinced that he has created the best car in the world. Better than the benchmark M3 at the track, and sleeper sophisticate on the street, with the latest, greatest coilovers and six piston brakes, lost on the unassuming motorist. Pro touring guy isn't the average hot rod guy, but he isn't street rod guy either (he has an affinity for billet but prefers only brushed or anodized as he loathes the ball milled and polished look praised by street rod guy. He is not BMW guy either, despite a common love of high dollar wheels and calculated statistics, most notably for skidpad tests, pro touring guy is enamored with carbon fiber everything. At the end of the day, pro touring guy even adopts hints of exotic car guy personality. He is almost as concerned with rarity and reaction as performance, and rightfully so, because a high dollar professionally built pro-touring car often combines the cost of an exotic with the performance of a BMW M3.
Matt
Young Gun
03-02-2010, 11:33 AM
win this thread is full of win
GMachineDartGT
03-02-2010, 11:59 AM
Agreed. I've also written my take, so if said people haven't banned themselves, I suggest they do before reading further...
Pro touring guy, not to be mistaken for hotrod guy, or muscle car guy, is a small demographic within the car community. Pro-touring guy comes in many forms, and can best be described as a varying amalgamation of Evo guy, and street rod, with perhaps a dash of BMW guy and even exotic guy thrown in, although one would be extremely reticent to admit such similarities to either of the two latter groups. Like Evo guy, pro touring guy has a chip on his shoulder. He wants to prove that his old car is every bit as capable as a modern sports car. In his haste to accomplish such a feat, he often times spends enough cash to make street rod guy blush. As for the several BMW guy traits apparent in pro touring guy, he is thoroughly convinced that he has created the best car in the world. Better than the benchmark M3 at the track, and sleeper sophisticate on the street, with the latest, greatest coilovers and six piston brakes, lost on the unassuming motorist. Pro touring guy isn't the average hot rod guy, but he isn't street rod guy either (he has an affinity for billet but prefers only brushed or anodized as he loathes the ball milled and polished look praised by street rod guy. He is not BMW guy either, despite a common love of high dollar wheels and calculated statistics, most notably for skidpad tests, pro touring guy is enamored with carbon fiber everything. At the end of the day, pro touring guy even adopts hints of exotic car guy personality. He is almost as concerned with rarity and reaction as performance, and rightfully so, because a high dollar professionally built pro-touring car often combines the cost of an exotic with the performance of a BMW M3.
Matt
Well put!!!
vanzuuk1
03-02-2010, 12:17 PM
"I like it all man.."-Eddie spaghetti,supersuckers.
Tony_SS
03-02-2010, 12:53 PM
Agreed. I've also written my take, so if said people haven't banned themselves, I suggest they do before reading further...
Pro touring guy, not to be mistaken for hotrod guy, or muscle car guy, is a small demographic within the car community. Pro-touring guy comes in many forms, and can best be described as a varying amalgamation of Evo guy, and street rod, with perhaps a dash of BMW guy and even exotic guy thrown in, although one would be extremely reticent to admit such similarities to either of the two latter groups. Like Evo guy, pro touring guy has a chip on his shoulder. He wants to prove that his old car is every bit as capable as a modern sports car. In his haste to accomplish such a feat, he often times spends enough cash to make street rod guy blush. As for the several BMW guy traits apparent in pro touring guy, he is thoroughly convinced that he has created the best car in the world. Better than the benchmark M3 at the track, and sleeper sophisticate on the street, with the latest, greatest coilovers and six piston brakes, lost on the unassuming motorist. Pro touring guy isn't the average hot rod guy, but he isn't street rod guy either (he has an affinity for billet but prefers only brushed or anodized as he loathes the ball milled and polished look praised by street rod guy. He is not BMW guy either, despite a common love of high dollar wheels and calculated statistics, most notably for skidpad tests, pro touring guy is enamored with carbon fiber everything. At the end of the day, pro touring guy even adopts hints of exotic car guy personality. He is almost as concerned with rarity and reaction as performance, and rightfully so, because a high dollar professionally built pro-touring car often combines the cost of an exotic with the performance of a BMW M3.
Matt
I lol'd!
Lowend
03-02-2010, 06:53 PM
The protouring guy- discussing bumpsteer on a car that will be driven to the ihop...making himself feel better by posting picks of "inferior" build styles..waiting breathlessly in a dimly lit room for mark stielow to post...hoping to view photos of badpenny every time it leaves the driveway...spending their kids college money on a metallic paint job...talking online about a car he will never build for a trackday that will never happen.
Than selling the car for a massive loss; only to start over again in a year
Fixed
TT302Z28
03-02-2010, 07:53 PM
How many of us started as Pro-Street guy! Man it sucked trying to turn in the rain with 155 tires on the front and tall M/Ts with a locker in the back.
shmoov69
03-02-2010, 08:51 PM
ROFLMAO Matt!!
BTW-where is 4x4 guy at in the mix?!?! I'm offended! Lol
Part Time
03-03-2010, 04:54 AM
The protouring guy- discussing bumpsteer on a car that will be driven to the ihop...making himself feel better by posting picks of "inferior" build styles..waiting breathlessly in a dimly lit room for mark stielow to post...hoping to view photos of badpenny every time it leaves the driveway...spending their kids college money on a metallic paint job...talking online about a car he will never build for a trackday that will never happen.
Lets see who can take a joke...
Awesome! LOL!
shortrack
03-03-2010, 06:52 AM
How many of us started as Pro-Street guy! Man it sucked trying to turn in the rain with 155 tires on the front and tall M/Ts with a locker in the back.
Ive been in one true Pro Street car.....a tubbed bbc 70 Chevelle.....we took a corner from a main road on to a resi street at maybe 30 mph and you could litterally hear the front tires folding and cringing.....Im like Whoa!!!.....the driver didnt bat an eyelash, I guess every corner is like that.....worked very well in a straight line though.
vintageracer
03-03-2010, 02:56 PM
I would personally agree with your assesment of their comments on the Musclecar crowd, but remember we as a group are somewhat of an anomoly. From the outside looking in...they are pretty accurate in their assessment of MOST musclecar guys.
The rest...yeah, they are spot-on.
Good stuff!
I agree!
I think the musclecar guy description is also accurate for the large majority of musclecar owners.
PT guys are on the fringe of the musclecar hobby.
The editor at Hot Rod magazine said so!
bijanmaleki
03-03-2010, 05:57 PM
Haha nice
mc84_zz4
03-03-2010, 08:57 PM
:lol:
dsittler
03-04-2010, 06:27 PM
What guy were you BEFORE you became pro-touring guy.......c'mon fess up!!!!!!!
Derek
shmoov69
03-04-2010, 07:47 PM
Muscle car guy
rebelgtp
03-04-2010, 08:44 PM
I was muscle care guy with a bit of street rod/greaser guy mixed in.
z0sicks07
03-04-2010, 08:50 PM
vette guys are getting younger every year only about 2 percent of all the vette owners i know are over 30 and about 50 under 25~! change that one! btw...hillarious thread
daredvl22
03-05-2010, 08:02 AM
Agreed. I've also written my take, so if said people haven't banned themselves, I suggest they do before reading further...
Pro touring guy, not to be mistaken for hotrod guy, or muscle car guy, is a small demographic within the car community. Pro-touring guy comes in many forms, and can best be described as a varying amalgamation of Evo guy, and street rod, with perhaps a dash of BMW guy and even exotic guy thrown in, although one would be extremely reticent to admit such similarities to either of the two latter groups. Like Evo guy, pro touring guy has a chip on his shoulder. He wants to prove that his old car is every bit as capable as a modern sports car. In his haste to accomplish such a feat, he often times spends enough cash to make street rod guy blush. As for the several BMW guy traits apparent in pro touring guy, he is thoroughly convinced that he has created the best car in the world. Better than the benchmark M3 at the track, and sleeper sophisticate on the street, with the latest, greatest coilovers and six piston brakes, lost on the unassuming motorist. Pro touring guy isn't the average hot rod guy, but he isn't street rod guy either (he has an affinity for billet but prefers only brushed or anodized as he loathes the ball milled and polished look praised by street rod guy. He is not BMW guy either, despite a common love of high dollar wheels and calculated statistics, most notably for skidpad tests, pro touring guy is enamored with carbon fiber everything. At the end of the day, pro touring guy even adopts hints of exotic car guy personality. He is almost as concerned with rarity and reaction as performance, and rightfully so, because a high dollar professionally built pro-touring car often combines the cost of an exotic with the performance of a BMW M3.
Matt
Matt,
I have to give it to you, good overall description. I found the overviews pretty entertaining as I tried to match myself, or personality to the correct "type". I for one am a little of all. I've owned lifted diesel trucks, exotics, muscle cars, etc. I drive a new BMW M3, but would not classify myself as the "BMW" guy. Don't get me wrong, it's a great car, but I'd give it up in a heartbeat if it meant I could no longer have, or continue building my pro-touring Camaro. Basically, I love cars and everything about them. However, my heart is and always will belong to the muscle cars. There's just something about them, a feeling you'll never get driving a new Porsche or BMW. It's just different, and it's hard to describe the amount of respect you get from driving a 40+ year old bad ass muscle car.
Dave
JChilders
03-05-2010, 09:11 AM
This is too funny.
Shiro666
03-05-2010, 11:04 AM
He is almost as concerned with rarity and reaction as performance, and rightfully so, because a high dollar professionally built pro-touring car often combines the cost of an exotic with the performance of a BMW M3.
Matt
Wow. So brutally true.
LeighP
03-06-2010, 06:40 AM
First I was just "Old Car Guy"...playing around with my V8 street cars....then, I tried "Street Rod Guy", but it didn't fit....so then I was "Musclecar Guy", and stock was good!
Then the Dark Side called unto me....come, take your car around a corner at more than the speed limit....I was seduced and thus became "Pro-Touring Guy"....
novaderrik
03-06-2010, 06:53 AM
what about people like me- the "broke guy"?
wmhjr
03-06-2010, 07:27 AM
Funny, but just an example of how we're so friggin fractured even on this site. If you like PT cars, it's like it's a crime if you ALSO like the feel and smell of a vintage muscle car. You get hammered if you mention that the feel of a well built factory german car has a lot to offer or it you also enjoy the straight line G-Forces of a strong bracket racer. There has never been yet a car that is perfect for every discipline. I've had BMW and love them. I also love drag racing.
WTH is it with this hobby that we've all got to be so friggin critical of other types of cars.
Oh, but low riders suck :)
93Polo
03-09-2010, 05:46 PM
What guy were you BEFORE you became pro-touring guy.......c'mon fess up!!!!!!!
Derek
None of the above. I had my 70 Chevelle at 16 but had no interest in drag racing. Went into the efi world at 18 with a 94 Z28, a Vette at 21 and heavily debated a BMW in my later 20s among other cars (MKIV Supra, FD RX7 etc).
Due to my young age I ran around with imports, mini truckers but also due to the Vette, BMW CCA events too.
Sadly the list does sum up a large percentage of so called "car guys" but there are knowledgable fringe groups in all areas as this forum is to the Muscle Cars.
Ricers are the idiots doing fly bys on the main drag. Imports run in the orgianized industrial parks like F'nF or in legal races and some of these can eat the Vettes, Exotics, and Muscle car's lunch.
I would also say from some what running around majority of the groups listed the fringe like us laugh at the guys that fill the stereotype.
93Polo
03-09-2010, 05:48 PM
Funny, but just an example of how we're so friggin fractured even on this site. If you like PT cars, it's like it's a crime if you ALSO like the feel and smell of a vintage muscle car. You get hammered if you mention that the feel of a well built factory german car has a lot to offer or it you also enjoy the straight line G-Forces of a strong bracket racer. There has never been yet a car that is perfect for every discipline. I've had BMW and love them. I also love drag racing.
WTH is it with this hobby that we've all got to be so friggin critical of other types of cars.
Oh, but low riders suck :)
Exactly some areas I may not understand the point but can admire craftsmanship and every area has its jerks or posers.
ZZ427
03-10-2010, 11:38 AM
Lol !
terryr
03-10-2010, 01:32 PM
I'm Daily Driver Guy. I found many years ago that if projects are off the road too long, they are off forever, and I become Up On Blocks Guy.
Now we need The Different Types Of Car Magazines.
Tony_SS
03-11-2010, 10:05 AM
Funny, but just an example of how we're so friggin fractured even on this site. If you like PT cars, it's like it's a crime if you ALSO like the feel and smell of a vintage muscle car. You get hammered if you mention that the feel of a well built factory german car has a lot to offer or it you also enjoy the straight line G-Forces of a strong bracket racer. There has never been yet a car that is perfect for every discipline. I've had BMW and love them. I also love drag racing.
WTH is it with this hobby that we've all got to be so friggin critical of other types of cars.
Oh, but low riders suck :)
It's not the cars that suck, it's the people that drive them. :)
vince
03-12-2010, 01:33 AM
I've owned a BMW for 2 years and still don't have a hot Asian girlfriend, what gives! :dunno: lol
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif
6'9"Witha69
03-12-2010, 09:27 AM
I've owned a BMW for 2 years and still don't have a hot Asian girlfriend, what gives! :dunno: lol
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif
Because you bought a girl car, they think you hit for the other team! :poke:
j/k
vince
03-12-2010, 04:08 PM
Because you bought a girl car, they think you hit for the other team! :poke:
j/k
Ouch! Damn car salesman lied to me!
In all seriousness, despite the "hairdresser car" jokes, its by far the best car I've owned.
wmhjr
03-13-2010, 05:59 AM
Don't let them mess with you Vince. Those roadsters are some of the most fun cars on the road. I used to have an M-Roadster. That was just an excellent car. I miss having it around. People make fun of them - right up to the time that you're just tooling home from work with the top down having a ball, or when you're beating the hell out of them on the track.
93Polo
03-13-2010, 10:29 AM
The Z3s are fun. I was considering a Z3 M coupe (clownshoe) and an E36 M3 with a '95 in Avus Blue being top choice. They are amazing fun to drive. I went with a C5 Corvette due to cheap mods and knowing my way around the GM aftermarket. The C5 never had the turn in or did I ever feel as much feedback in the Corvette.
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