View Full Version : Damn wheel weights!!!!
chevelle327c5
01-16-2010, 03:14 PM
Well I over looked the wheel weights... I"m trying to install c5 brakes on a 68 chevelle with 17" wheels and the f***ing calipers are hitting part of the wheel weights.... There the stick on weights right behind the valve steem and part of the spoke. Three 1oz weights.. lol there not much space between the caliper and the wheel.
So what are my options???
1.) pull the weights off? lol
2.) run a strip of .25 oz or .5oz in the same spot?( there not as wide)
3.) Run ls1 rotors or c4 rotors with c5 caliper if possible (but don't really want to)
4.) can you double stack weights?
5.) run a wheel spacer. ( would really like to stay away from it)
i'm only hitting maybe an 1/8 on the weights.. I wonder if i could get six .5 oz weights and put 3 on the rim and put 3 on top of those? in the same spot?
any ideas?
JustinB
01-16-2010, 05:02 PM
Give me a call Monday morning and I will figure out something to get you going.
chevelle327c5
01-16-2010, 08:22 PM
no one had this problem??? well i think i know what i'm going to do.
911industries
01-16-2010, 08:57 PM
Ive never had that kinda problem but I can give you some other ideas. I think your idea of using smaller or mainly thinner weights is probably the easiest. If you wanted to get real slick you could probably take off the tire, mark rotation first, and epoxy the weights on the inside of the wheel. Never done it before but the epoxy should hold up to the centrifigul force. Also I've clearanced(grinded) calipers many of times with no problems.
No matter what you do you should definitely get the wheels rebalanced.
Chevy Kid
01-17-2010, 01:59 AM
You can use 3M weatherstrip adhesive to glue weights on.
Tim
chevelle327c5
01-17-2010, 08:04 AM
I found on some other sites people were having the same problem with the 12'' rotors and smaller wheels... I guess there are different ways to balance a tire?? idk.. I'm going to call some of my customers on monday and see what they recommend (they mounted my wheels) If they can't help me i'm goint to try thinner weights and move them closer to the spoke... maybe 1/8 to 1/4 closer.. I also have a 1/8 wheel spacer and 1/4 spacer on order... I really don't want to grind the calipers. but if i need to i will do a little
69muscle
01-17-2010, 09:41 AM
remove wheel weights & install perfect balance bead bags inside of tire." no exposed weights on outside of rim clean look" & they work great
TD509EFI
01-17-2010, 04:31 PM
69muscle,
I thought you were kidding when I read your reply! Interesting....but checking on the web, it doesn't mention using the beads for passenger car tires, only trucks, SUV and others> Do you have a site that lists passenger car tires?
John
MonzaRacer
01-17-2010, 05:42 PM
Doesnt matter it can be used for cars also you just need to adjust accordingly.
Exact, and several others are sold by truck/tire shops all around. I have just added half bags to customers wheels and had good luck.
Now if you call around aftermarking where your close and not close inside for the inside(near the center/spokes) to calipers then look for a shop with either a Hunter GSP or DSP balancer and those Hunter balancer owners can choose where to place that weight can be placed for balance.
A good sho pwith a good tech who knows his balancer can also place weights in specific areas that wont interfere with calipers. Talking to the shop and balancer not just letting anyone in the shop do your balance will get you better results.
Yoda4561
01-17-2010, 05:47 PM
I've read that they work great on larger tires, but that they aren't recommended for 60 series or lower profile tires. Probably worth a shot though.
69keith
01-17-2010, 06:41 PM
I had a similar problem. Running 13" corvette rotors and budnik 17x8 BUDNIKS. ending up grinding part of the inside brake pad to relocate the floating caliper away from the wheel further. Find someone to rebalance your wheels. you can get really creative on hiding weights. I have a HUNTER dsp.
monteboy84
01-18-2010, 10:21 AM
Run clip-on weights ;)
Just kidding, is there nowhere on the wheel that you can clear stick-ons? All the electronic balancers now have multiple balance programs that place the weights in various locations, there has got to be one that will work for you.
Besides, if you go crazy chopping and reworking the weights you have in order to make them work where they are, you're going to have to go through the same thing next time you buy tires. Just a thought...
69muscle
01-18-2010, 08:57 PM
I run them in a 69 camaro 19"wheels, 69 roadrunner 18" wheels, 2001 porsche twin turbo 19" wheels, 2006 dodge 3500 4x4 20" wheels, 37" tires. they all run very smooth no vibration & clean looking. depending on tire size but shouldn't take more than 3oz. for your application.
69muscle
01-18-2010, 09:01 PM
What size tire are you running. I have a chart at work, could look it up for ya.
Vegas69
01-18-2010, 09:44 PM
You can use dyna beads. I use them in my Motorcycle and they work great. They aren't recommended for racing however.
Jeffrotech
01-19-2010, 07:05 PM
Just move the 3oz either further out or further in on the rim. My guess (without seeing it) is maybe sticking it on more towards the center of the car.
If you get some vibration, mark the location of the interference and take it to a good shop - they can balance it with the weights in alternate locations.
chevelle327c5
01-20-2010, 05:05 PM
already fixed... they put the weights on the back of the spoke
gort69
01-20-2010, 06:05 PM
Run clip-on weights ;)
Is there something bad about clip-on weights? I had the exact same problem with my C5 brakes. They balanced the wheels off-car, reinstalled them and sent me on my way. Backing out of the bay I heard this noise and immediately knew what it was - tape-on weights hit the calipers and wiped them off. They just re-balanced the wheels with clip-on weights on the insides of the front rims, and all seems well 3 years later.
Is this a bad thing?
monteboy84
01-20-2010, 08:24 PM
Is there something bad about clip-on weights?
Well functionally, they're usually alright, aesthetically I've never been a fan. With steel wheels they're great, but with alloys you've got to be sure that the clip fits the wheels lip properly, or they'll become road debris in short order. If they're installed only on the inside lip you can't see them, but when they're installed they tend to gouge the aluminum as they're hammered on or pulled off.
So, if the weights are correct for your wheel, they'll work fine, I more or less just don't like what they do to a rim. Keep in mind I grew up in a state where almost every aluminum wheel I've ever seen had corrosion to some extent, and every clip-on weight I ever removed had a patch of corrosion behind it.
MonzaRacer
01-20-2010, 09:22 PM
Well also the clip on the back only is a simple static balance, may be smooth but if it needs big weights you ought to watch it going down road, saw one the other day, car had anttenae right over wheel but tire was going up and down like a jack hammer. heavy on one side heavy on opposite.
If you use DSP or GSP balancer from Hunter they can place weight for out side pretty much where ever they want.
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