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TonyHuntimer
12-21-2009, 04:30 PM
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By GLENN ADAMS, Associated Press Writer Glenn Adams, Associated Press Writer – Sun Dec 20, 12:07 pm ET
AUGUSTA, Maine – A Maine legislator wants to make the state the first to require cell phones to carry warnings that they can cause brain cancer, although there is no consensus among scientists that they do and industry leaders dispute the claim.
The now-ubiquitous devices carry such warnings in some countries, though no U.S. states require them, according to the National Conference of State Legislators. A similar effort is afoot in San Francisco, where Mayor Gavin Newsom wants his city to be the nation's first to require the warnings.
Maine Rep. Andrea Boland, D-Sanford, said numerous studies point to the cancer risk, and she has persuaded legislative leaders to allow her proposal to come up for discussion during the 2010 session that begins in January, a session usually reserved for emergency and governors' bills.
Boland herself uses a cell phone, but with a speaker to keep the phone away from her head. She also leaves the phone off unless she's expecting a call. At issue is radiation emitted by all cell phones.
Under Boland's bill, manufacturers would have to put labels on phones and packaging warning of the potential for brain cancer associated with electromagnetic radiation. The warnings would recommend that users, especially children and pregnant women, keep the devices away from their head and body.
The Federal Communications Commission, which maintains that all cell phones sold in the U.S. are safe, has set a standard for the "specific absorption rate" of radiofrequency energy, but it doesn't require handset makers to divulge radiation levels.
The San Francisco proposal would require the display of the absorption rate level next to each phone in print at least as big as the price. Boland's bill is not specific about absorption rate levels, but would require a permanent, nonremovable advisory of risk in black type, except for the word "warning," which would be large and in red letters. It would also include a color graphic of a child's brain next to the warning.
While there's little agreement about the health hazards, Boland said Maine's roughly 950,000 cell phone users among its 1.3 million residents "do not know what the risks are."
All told, more than 270 million people subscribed to cellular telephone service last year in the United States, an increase from 110 million in 2000, according to CTIA-The Wireless Association. The industry group contends the devices are safe.
"With respect to the matter of health effects associated with wireless base stations and the use of wireless devices, CTIA and the wireless industry have always been guided by science, and the views of impartial health organizations. The peer-reviewed scientific evidence has overwhelmingly indicated that wireless devices do not pose a public health risk," said CTIA's John Walls.
James Keller of Lewiston, whose cell phone serves as his only phone, seemed skeptical about warning labels. He said many things may cause cancer but lack scientific evidence to support that belief. Besides, he said, people can't live without cell phones.
"It seems a little silly to me, but it's not going to hurt anyone to have a warning on there. If they're really concerned about it, go ahead and put a warning on it," he said outside a sporting good store in Topsham. "It wouldn't deter me from buying a phone."
While there's been no long-term studies on cell phones and cancer, some scientists suggest erring on the side of caution.
Last year, Dr. Ronald B. Herberman, director emeritus of the University of Pittsburgh Cancer Institute, sent a memo to about 3,000 faculty and staff members warning of risks based on early, unpublished data. He said that children should use the phones only for emergencies because their brains were still developing and that adults should keep the phone away from the head and use a speakerphone or a wireless headset.
Herberman, who says scientific conclusions often take too long, is one of numerous doctors and researchers who have endorsed an August report by retired electronics engineer L. Lloyd Morgan. The report highlights a study that found significantly increased risk of brain tumors from 10 or more years of cell phone or cordless phone use.
Also, the BioInitiative Working Group, an international group of scientists, notes that many countries have issued warnings and that the European Parliament has passed a resolution calling for governmental action to address concerns over health risks from mobile phone use.
But the National Cancer Institute said studies thus far have turned up mixed and inconsistent results, noting that cell phones did not come into widespread use in the United States until the 1990s.

"Although research has not consistently demonstrated a link between cellular telephone use and cancer, scientists still caution that further surveillance is needed before conclusions can be drawn," according to the Cancer Institute's Web site.
Motorola Inc., one of the nation's major wireless phone makers, says on its Web site that all of its products comply with international safety guidelines for radiofrequency energy exposure. A Motorola official referred questions to CTIA.

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My old cell phone would make my computer speakers crack when a phone call was coming in if it was within 3 feet of the speakers. I always wondered what that was doing to my brain.

I wonder if brain cancer is on the rise? My father-in law died of it last year. I know of a few other people with it too. And then there's also a friend of a friend who just died from hip cancer.

Maybe I shouldn't keep my cell phone in my pocket near the "jewels".

Maybe it's nothing...maybe it's something.

67 ls1 vert
12-21-2009, 06:31 PM
You know this may sound very strange but when I use my phone on my right ear, the one that I used for years talking on my cell phone, it hurts really bad. I have to switch it to the left ear or use the speaker. I mean, right when I put it up to the ear it would start to hurt. I asked my doctor about this and he didn't have any answers for this. He just told me to use the speaker.

My computer makes the same sound when I get a call. Kind of funny, It would start to make noise before the phone would ring. Good for late night phone calls, you can answer it before it would ring.

ponchopwr70
12-21-2009, 06:53 PM
Yea and all those radio waves in the air are causing my grey hairs at a young age. I don't get this, just a waste of time. Its one more lable to ignore kinda like the ones on dirtbikes and parental advisory stickers on cds come on do something productive with your time not come up with bs warnings.

Jim Nilsen
12-21-2009, 07:40 PM
I still have a concern about it and the research I did found that in the 80's when mobile phones came out they were very concerned about it and sheilded the phones which is what made them so damn heavy. Then all of a sudden the phones got smaller and with towers everywhere the power could be much less but the frequencies are still the same. So they think the phones are safer but who knows? The FCC will never take the liablitity.

The area where my cancer was happened to be right where I hold my phone.

There will never be any proof allowed to ever be used to stop the use or warn us because of the economic impact in so many ways. Use them at your own risk.

CarlC
12-21-2009, 07:51 PM
Hail the tin foil hat!

Damn True
12-21-2009, 08:34 PM
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shmoov69
12-21-2009, 08:40 PM
I've always wondered and thought that it can't be good........as I use my iPhone to type this!!! Lol! It would be REALLY (I mean REALLY!) hard to not have and use my cell!

Do a search on YouTube for cell phone popcorn popper.....or something like that.

Damn True
12-21-2009, 09:57 PM
I've always wondered and thought that it can't be good........as I use my iPhone to type this!!! Lol! It would be REALLY (I mean REALLY!) hard to not have and use my cell!

Do a search on YouTube for cell phone popcorn popper.....or something like that.

.....and continue to search and you'll find that those videos were fake. A viral add campaign for.......wait for it.........a cell phone company having a bit of fun with the sillieness that is this recurring urban legend.

cluxford
12-22-2009, 12:13 AM
I love this debate.

My wife simply refuses to use a mobile to her ear, and has it off, only turns it on to make a call. She also refuses to allow my daughter to even go near it.

I on the other hand, being in the tech industry have gadgets all over the place inc 3 phones

We even had a device brought into our home that measure EMR's around the home.

here are the 3 things that sent the EMR measuring device into wild spikes...

1. Clock radio - by far the most and guess where it lives...about 10 inches from your head for 8-10 hours every night. My wife as a result no longer has a clock next to her side of the bed (I still have mine)

2. TV - not unsurprising

3. The brick wall - exactly where the meter box was on the other side of the wall. Now in our old house that was on the external side of our bedroom wall where our bed head was against, in our new house it is on the farthest wall of the 4 car garage we have so nowhere near where anyone eats, sleeps or works

the simple fact for me is if EMR's cause cancer then mobile phone are just yet another device that contributes. Go take one of those EMr devices and stand under a powerline, not even the high power ones, just the normal street ones....woo hoo, off the charts. EMR's are part of society, you want electrical devices of any nature guess what...EMR's.

Sure holding a transmitter / receiver against your brian can't be helpful,

but hey getting in a car with my wife driving is more dangerous than 1 million cell phone calls......

and the really funny part...my wife drives a Prius...the irony, oh the irony .....

Tony_SS
12-22-2009, 04:37 AM
I eat broccoli. Lots of broccoli.

6'9"Witha69
12-22-2009, 07:55 AM
I eat broccoli. Lots of broccoli.
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shmoov69
12-22-2009, 05:45 PM
.....and continue to search and you'll find that those videos were fake. A viral add campaign for.......wait for it.........a cell phone company having a bit of fun with the sillieness that is this recurring urban legend.

Cool, I wondered that too! Good to know, I hadn't looked at the video since it first came out a couple years ago.
It don't really matter to me, I can't imagine going back to no cell phone!

Tony_SS
12-23-2009, 12:06 PM
Hail the tin foil hat!

I bet folks said the same thing when someone claimed that cigarettes caused cancer. You never know what the effects are..

TonyHuntimer
12-23-2009, 12:48 PM
I bet folks said the same thing when someone claimed that cigarettes caused cancer. You never know what the effects are..

What?! Cigarettes cause cancer? No way! Once people find this out, everyone will quit.

Tony_SS
12-23-2009, 12:59 PM
What?! Cigarettes cause cancer? No way! Once people find this out, everyone will quit.

lol. No, we need to ban them. It's for everyone's good you know. Then of course the demand will surely disappear.

critter
12-23-2009, 01:54 PM
I'll have cancer of the left testicle. I keep my phone in my left front pocked and seldom use it. Oh, the humanity!

shmoov69
12-23-2009, 03:57 PM
lol. No, we need to ban them. It's for everyone's good you know. Then of course the demand will surely disappear.
:idea: That's a good idea!! Maybe we can do that to those bad guns and stuff!! No more guns mean no more violence right!?!?

zbugger
12-23-2009, 10:41 PM
Tony, I sleep with my cell phone on my night stand right next to my bed. There's nothing wrong with me, right?

67 ls1 vert
12-23-2009, 11:42 PM
Tony, I sleep with my cell phone on my night stand right next to my bed. There's nothing wrong with me, right?
Ut oh, your asking for trouble mister. Trouble I say!

Jim Nilsen
12-24-2009, 08:05 AM
It's amazing the things that we fear to kill us yet we all do things in our everyday life that put us at more risk and we never see it that way. We are a truly screwed up race of beings aren't we?

I don't care how I die as long as it isn't at the mercy of greedy careless mfer's who love to see people suffer for their own gain. My doctor was severely offended when I told him I would not die a miserable death from cancer at my expense just to make him happy.

People need to wake up and smell the death instead of the roses, after all, flowers were introduced at funerals to cover up the smell of the dead.lol