Pozzi and others...4-Link for formed rear frame rails

[81S]

I am looking at a 1968 Camaro that was set up for Ladder bars and already has formed rear frame rails and a cage with no leaf spring perches or rear end housing.
Now I know there is no such thing as an all around car, but i am interested in road racing and drag racing. I can accept only being moderate at the drag strip but i want to handle well at auto x and road race. I did check on the Martz Chassis and how some of you felt that it would bind. I also looked at the DSE setup but I dont have anywhere for the Bottom links to bolt do i?? It also bothered me that the kit welded to the floor pan without some type of re-inforcement. THis made me think of chevelles pulling the arm out the floor pan. I looked at the chassis on the martz and it looks as if it would work with my formed rails with only slight modification (rails are in stock location.) What would be my best options. Fabbing spring perches or a complete 4 link.
Which ever you recomend please list the price of the kit and what other things i would need to make this work. Other than Lateral Dynamics... yea they are the greatest but a little out my price range. I would prefer a kit that had some type of weld-in bar for the front mount as the Martz did. I intend to make in the upwards of about 600hp and 500lb of torque out a 6.2 LS3.

[79T/Aman]

Welcome to the board, but I must ask "Chevelles pulling the arms out of the floor"?! is this another wifes tail going around? because the Chevelle has a full frame and the arms are mounted to the frame not the floor.
you could easily fab mounts for any application.

[David Pozzi]

I think a torque arm kit would fit pretty easily. Are the frame rails set more narrow than stock? Bmr, Jake, Speed Tech, TCI have torque arm kits.

Hot Rods To Hell kit might work. A 3 link would be great but you nixed that.

[81S]

Thanks for the warm welcome. I'm not against the 3-link, I just priced the lateral dynamics, because i heard they were the best. I will look at the torque arm suspension. Oh and thanks for the quick response.

[81S]

I like the truck arm kit from hot rods to hell because of the cross member in the front will be positioned where the ladder bar cross bar is. I did look at the speedtech kit. I do like it too. Is there anything that doesnt use the spring perches as a mounting point, like a complete weld in system besideds the hrth kit. I dont mind spending a little bit but maybe not just 3600 up front.

[LowBuckX]

you can make a 3 link of your own in the $600-$700 range... check out my link to my build. You could fab front mounts for lower links very easy...

[BMR Tech]

There really isn't an application-specific kit that will work with the formed frame rails that are in your car and the absence of leaf spring mounts. Every kit available will require some form of fabrication to adapt the shock crossmember and control arm mounts. So basically you just have to decide if you want to fab a whole rear suspension or modify an existing kit. If you have the fabrication abilities and equipment, LowBuckX is right, it will definitely be cheaper to build it yourself. It also leaves your options wide open so you can do anything you want - 3 link, 4 link, or torque arm.

If you would rather modify an existing kit, we sell any component of our torque arm kits separately if you are interested in going that route. Since you will be in need of a rear end housing anyway, our 9" kit comes with the housing in whatever width you want and will already have all your suspension mounts welded to it and powdercoated. You would just have to fabricate your upper shock crossmember (if there isn't one in the car already) and make control arm mounts, which shouldn't be too difficult since you already have a ladder bar crossmember to attach them too....

[MoparCar]

BMR Tech,
Will you provide the LCAs in custom lengths for a universal application? If not what is the typical center to center length.

Also, for measuring this for mock up purposes how long is the actual TA where the crossmember attaches?

Thanks

[BMR Tech]

BMR Tech,
Will you provide the LCAs in custom lengths for a universal application? If not what is the typical center to center length.

Also, for measuring this for mock up purposes how long is the actual TA where the crossmember attaches?

Thanks

The length from center to center of our control arms is 24.75" in the middle of the adjustment. You could probably go 1/4" in either direction with the adjustment of the rod end. I don't have an assembled sample mocked up to get the exact torque arm measurement and the pivot end is telescoping but just roughly measuring one it should be around 60"-61" from the axle centerline to the front pivot bolt. If you needed an absolute measurement just let me know and I could get that for you. The control arms can be shipped unwelded on one end to allow a custom length. You would just need to cut, fit, and weld the tube adapter on the one end...

[MoparCar]

Thanks!

[MonzaRacer]

Dont forget Ride tech has a weld in triangulated 4 link available too