View Full Version : help me buy a new paint gun
67 ls1 vert
11-17-2009, 09:48 PM
Hey guys, looking for a new gun to paint with. My gun just isn't giving me the quality I am looking for. Any idea's with out going deep in to my pockets for a good quality gun?
Any Info from daily or regular painters would be helpful.
Thanks. :)
justasquid
11-17-2009, 10:02 PM
One thing to keep in mind is, settings and prep are what make the gun lay out good paint. I've seen guys use 20 dollar guns and lay down paint like they were using a 500 dollar gun. I've also seen 500 dollar guns shoot like crap due to the person behind it. Speaking of which, My favorite touch up gun is a craftsman....... I know, who'da thunk it, but that gun and I are just right together.
I have a sharpe finex. Its a cheaper gun, but I feel it gives good performance. It has a nice wide pattern and lays down really nice in my opinion. Its lightweight and has a really good ballance also. I've heard others complain about them, but I've had great success with it. Again, every gun is slightly different. What settings are great on one gun, may not be great on another. You really need to learn the gun and practice with it.
I can't recall exactly, but I believe I paid $90 for it. Also, I can't really compare to something like an Iwata or sata, as I've never used those guns, but for me, the sharpe works just fine. In my opinion, the nicest of the cheaper guns.
Of course, Im not a daily painter either. But then again, those that are will probably be using higher dollar equipment.
67 ls1 vert
11-17-2009, 10:17 PM
I dont know what I am doing wrong but I have this slight spitting sound when I spray. It doesn't have that really smooth sound coming out of the gun. I have tried to lower the pressure and I have tried it higher. I have thinning out the paint and vise-versa. I know the gun isn't dirty. I take great care to make sure it perfect. If you were to look at it you would think its brand new.
I just cant get the perfect flow. I wet sand every paint job I do any ways but It would be nice to lay it down really flat so there is less cutting to do. Sometimes there's a spot that you cant get your buffer in and if the paint was laid out smooth you could just leave it.
justasquid
11-18-2009, 04:01 AM
If the gun is in good shape and there is no damage to the needle or needle seal, check the needle packing. If its dry, you may need to oil it. thats what I've found is the most common for a spitting gun. there are other reasons, such as material inside the gun and needle. If you try to oil the packing and it still does it, you may want to completely remove the needle to make sure there is nothing stuck.
what gun do you have? If its a suction feed, make sure your breather port is not plugged up. Sometimes the hose can look clean and clear, but be plugged.
Also, make sure your gun has the correct needle size for the material your shooting.
Im just a novice painter though, hopefully someone here will chime in who is more experienced.
67 ls1 vert
11-18-2009, 08:42 AM
I have two different sizes for spraying. I use the bigger one for the primers and the smaller one 1.3 for painting clears. As soon as I am done painting I take it all the way apart and wash it out and clean up every piece.
How do you oil it with out it affecting the paint? Maybe I should oil it. It's pretty new still but it may need it.
Oh yeah, its made by finishline.
NorwayCharger
11-18-2009, 09:01 AM
I guess the paint is somewhat different here in Europe than over there, but i´ve used a lot of brand paintgun and i LOVE my Sata RP 3000 gun.
They last a lot longer than Devillbis, but the Devillbis GTI gun is good and quite reasonable price.
67 ls1 vert
11-18-2009, 09:21 AM
that's the gun with a digital gauge isn't it? I was just looking at one on eBay this guy was selling. Pretty nice guns it seems nice but pretty pricey. Reduced pressure (RP) does that keep down the over spray and use less paint?
NorwayCharger
11-18-2009, 10:00 AM
that's the gun with a digital gauge isn't it? I was just looking at one on eBay this guy was selling. Pretty nice guns it seems nice but pretty pricey. Reduced pressure (RP) does that keep down the over spray and use less paint?
Yes thats it, you can get them without the digital gauge.
It lays down paint beautiful, and with a lot less overspray.
We do not colorsand and buff paint, just paint and go :-)
http://www.sata.com/index.php?id=satajet3000brp&L=11
BRIAN
11-18-2009, 06:12 PM
WWW.SPRAYGUNWORLD.COM. Has enough info to get your head spinning.
Know exactly what your compressor output is before shopping. Sata guns are just not needed for a couple paint job deal. The Astro knock offs work fine and actually are a bit less finicky. They have no needle packing which I am not sure who uses anymore.
Buy a 2.0 or larger for surfacers and you can use a 1.4- 1.5 for base/clear. The even have a 3 gun kit on the above site.
If you have $500 to spend use it to buy 3 cheap guns and the right regulator and accys rather than one Sata or???
MonzaRacer
11-18-2009, 08:01 PM
Heck I have used a 6500 Campbell Hausefield and done great finish work, got myfirst one for like 50 bucks at local farm store of all places but used to see same one on Autozone.
Big trick is clean, not over pressuring it, and proper viscosity. Uncle showed me how to read paint off of wood paint sticks of all things. But I can lay out a paint job with no orange peel and generally no runs or sags.
Like was said look for local tool, truck and see if they sell Astro pneumatic gravity feed guns then order up some extra cups and caps and needles too, different sizes and try som practice with implement paint if you can get it to lay down and not run sag you can paint just about anything.
67 ls1 vert
11-18-2009, 08:08 PM
I guess pressure changes with different paints, huh? I have done the mixing with the stir stick and watch it run off the end and it seems pretty liquidity and smooth. Kind of hard to explain. You get what I mean. LOL
Do you usually mix it like the specs says or experiment?
Satatic
11-18-2009, 10:01 PM
I had the spitting thing with my finishline 3. I am almost positive it was the little plastic gasket that goes in before the fluid tip gets screwed in. It became compressed and let air blow by it so there was air bubbles in the paint in the fluid tip. The only place i found i could buy that part was at tcp global. Comes in like a 5 pack. I eventually found a blow up diagram of the gun on their site where you could click on the parts and order them.
I would also get the gun lube, i lube my needle every time i clean.
And the needle packing you might as well get. When my packing went it would make the needle drag on it so when i would let off the trigger paint would keep coming out. Was especially an issue with poly primers because its turned out so far there isnt much spring pressure to push back. Took a long time to figure that out too.
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