C5 Parking brake

[rileyrides]

I've been reading all post about the c5 rear brake/parking brake brackets from Ed Miller. I have not been able to reach him but have questions I'm sure someone else could answer.

1. Do I need 2 LH c5 rear calipers for his brackets to work on a 69 camaro(staggered shocks)

2. Do I need 2 LH backing plates like some are using with the ls1 f-body rear brakes? (So the parking brake cables pull to the front of the car.)


Sounds like Ed is a very busy person. I'm trying to get all my parts needed for this swap.

Thanks

[clm1cars]

I just swapped the R/L sides and both pull to the front. It does relocate the position of the caliper but I have not heard of any issues with that.

[clm1cars]

I spoke with Ed the other day, he is slammed!!! Leave him a message he will get back to you.

[rileyrides]

Understand the parking brake/baking plate. Just swap sides. But will I need 2 of the same calipers. I had read in other threads that if you use ls1 rear brakes on a 69 camaro or later with staggered shocks you need 2 left calipers. Is this also correct for c5 corvette rear brakes?

[John Wright]

I used two of the same side calipers on my 70 Camaro(staggered shocks). <---(this positions the bleeder valve so you can bleed the brakes)

I also swapped the backing plates around so that both ebrake levers will be pulled by the cables towards the front of the car. This way I can still use my factory foot operated ebrake lever and not have to worry about having to change the direction of the cables. If you go by the photos Ed posted up in one of those threads, he had the backing plate positioned so that the ebrake levers were pulled towards the rear. I spoke with him about this and he said it can go either way, so I turned them around.

He is slammed with work, he also mentioned that the ebrake cables, to work with this, are still in the works, but he hasn't finished them up as of the last conversation that I had with him(few weeks ago).

[clm1cars]

Sorry, I forgot to mention that I have the Air Ride Tech Suspension in the rear and I do not have the shock issue to deal with. So the R/L Caliper assy works fine.

[LONE*STAR]

call Tobin at kore3 he always has time to lend some advise

[gort69]

understand the parking brake/baking plate. Just swap sides. But will i need 2 of the same calipers. I had read in other threads that if you use ls1 rear brakes on a 69 camaro or later with staggered shocks you need 2 left calipers. Is this also correct for c5 corvette rear brakes?

yes - it puts both bleeders at the top. If you use a pressure bleeder you can use a L and a R caliper - remove the pass side caliper, rotate it so the bleeder is up, bleed, then reinstall. Kinda hokey, though.

[clm1cars]

I have had zero issues using R/L factory calipers. Thus, no issues with bleeder locations because you are not rotating the caliper in any way from the r/s to the l/s & l/s to the r/s.
What does change; the calipers are now on the rear side of the differential as oppsed to the front side (which is the factory location). So as a result the bleeders stay in the correct position.

Is this the best set-up? Questionable....most likely not. But, it is what I can afford for an every day driver quality car.

[gort69]

I have had zero issues using R/L factory calipers. Thus, no issues with bleeder locations because you are not rotating the caliper in any way from the r/s to the l/s & l/s to the r/s.
What does change; the calipers are now on the rear side of the differential as oppsed to the front side (which is the factory location). So as a result the bleeders stay in the correct position.

Is this the best set-up? Questionable....most likely not. But, it is what I can afford for an every day driver quality car.

That is true if you don't have staggered shocks, like the 68-9 Camaros have. The staggered shocks means one shock is in front of the axle and one shock is behind the axle. There isn't room for a caliper and a shock on the same side of the axle. The fix (at least LS1-wise) is to use 2 LH backing plates and 2 LH calipers. This puts one caliper ahead of the axle and one caliper behind it. The C5 backing plate mounts to axle differently than the LS1 and reqires some special adapter brackets to make it work, but the end result on a staggered shock car is still that you need 2 LH calipers if you want both bleeder screws "up".

[clm1cars]

Understood. I keep forgetting that the staggered shocks make it a bit more difficult.

[John Wright]

I looked into relocating the shock by adding a plate to the back side of the spring plate to locate the shock on the other side...to keep the calipers oriented like the C5 Corvette....but the shock ends up at an odd angle compared to the opposite side. Easier and less headache to just swap the calipers as stated above.

[rileyrides]

yes - it puts both bleeders at the top. If you use a pressure bleeder you can use a L and a R caliper - remove the pass side caliper, rotate it so the bleeder is up, bleed, then reinstall. Kinda hokey, though.


Thanks, Thats what I needed to know. Does anyone know if Ed Miller's bracket allow you to mount rear calipers on the front/rear of rotor? staggered shocks

[ebmiller88]

You can mount the calipers on either side (leading/trailing) but you will most likely have to either remove or modify the small steel tab that sticks out from the backing plate depending on where you want the caliper.

Brake cables are essentially done, I just have to test the fit when they arrive.

Ed

[rileyrides]

what are those small steel tabs for? Are they needed?

[Apogee]

what are those small steel tabs for? Are they needed?

ABS sensor wire clip. Only needed with ABS applications like a C5/C6 Corvette.

Tobin
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