What happened to Sunday Angeles Crest drives?

[-The Stig-]

I haven't seen one posted on here in ages... what's going on guys? :)

I've got a hankering for getting up stupid early on a Sunday, driving for an hour, just to drive another 40 minutes up a hill for some Breakfast in a place that doesn't have French Toast on the menu.

lol

Mr. Kelcy? What gives Sir? :)

[rsk68]

I'm ready!

[Roadbuster]

I heard on the news this morning that Angeles Crest Hwy is still closed and will be for the next few weeks due to the fire. Yes even though the fire is long out...

Jon

[Nessumsar]

I have something to show you guys the next time we do one of these, a grandunveiling of sorts....

I ready btw!

[CarlC]

If memory serves all of the safety barriers needed to be repaired since their wooden columns were all burned. Mike has the latest, but the signs on the freeway state it's closed.

We need to figure out an alternate route.

[Mkelcy]

The last I heard, the Angeles Crest Highway was expected to be reopened soon - early November. http://www.lacanadaonline.com/articles/2009/10/15/news/lnws-highway-101509.txt .

If you read the article, it's apparently just not pretty (literally and figuratively) from La Canada to Newcomb's.

[6'9"Witha69]

Winter was always a nice time to go to Paradise cove! Of course Carl had to go and move, whre would we all rendezvous before heading out?

[-The Stig-]

Hmmm I didn't know ACH was still closed... damn. That puts a damper on the fun.

There's always breakfast out at Pine Mountain Club... restaurant called "The Screaming Squirrel"
16200 Mill Potrero Hwy, Frazier Park, CA‎ (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=CTk3ajUJ_eq_Fcm4EwId2c_l-Ck9Bk5XsY7pgDH5GGL2I-xV8g&q=16200+Mill+Potrero+Hwy,+Frazier+Park,+CA%E2%80%8 E&sll=34.853397,-119.144154&sspn=0.100016,0.222988&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=16200+Mill+Potrero+Hwy,+Frazier+Park,+Kern,+ California+93222&ll=34.850949,-119.165397&spn=0.012943,0.027874&z=16)

Food is decent... scenery is nice, drive is spectacular. A bit farther than our usual route though... plus you can take Cerro Noroeste Rd all the way to Hwy 33. If you haven't been on that stretch of road before, you're missing out. I've ridden it a few times on my old bike... yums the word.

[Chucks73]

Heard on the news today that they plan to open it up on Nov 30th. Could be a nice Post Turkey Day run???

[6'9"Witha69]

I can only wonder how eager Stark will be to start nabbing speeders on "his" road again!!

[CarlC]

Maybe Mike can reconnoiter the road and tell us if the restaurant is still there. We may need to take the the highway all the way over. Oh darn...

[Mkelcy]

Maybe Mike can reconnoiter the road and tell us if the restaurant is still there. We may need to take the the highway all the way over. Oh darn...

Newcomb's didn't burn up, but they've lost months worth of business. I'm going to be in NC from 11/21-12/1 or so, so I'll be missing any post Thanksgiving cruise. I'd call before assuming Nuke's is open, but I'm guessing they'll be there.

[-The Stig-]

I can't wait till we can get this group back out on the road, been far too long.

[Nessumsar]

I'm still ready!

[Chad-1stGen]

It's getting to be my busy season at work but I'm game if no conflicts :)

[Chucks73]

What I'm hearing is that it is opening the Monday after Thanksgiving,

[Roadbuster]

Here is a video of what it looked like in early September

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNPTd39jAlM

Jon

[Steve N 69 69 69]

Man, thats horrible, its all burned away. That was such a pretty drive too.

[Mkelcy]

I went up on Tuesday. It's pretty sad. The good news is that Newcomb's was totally unaffected - they were just about the eastern edge of the fire. The bad news is that there were some beautiful areas that were destroyed: Switzers, a picnic area that was just past the Angeles Forest Highway as you went up, on the right:

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/12/switzers-1.jpg

and a portion of Charlton Flats, which was home to some wonderful large old trees:

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif

[Nessumsar]

Yikes!

[406 Q-ship]

Wonder what it is gonna look like after the rain/snow that is coming tomorrow. Anyone heard what the snow level is going to be with this storm?

[CarlC]

National Weather Service. I believe this is about 3/4 of the way to Newcomb's.

Monday: Snow before 4pm, then rain. The rain and snow could be heavy at times. High near 49. South southeast wind between 7 and 16 mph, with gusts as high as 23 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New snow accumulation of 14 to 20 inches possible.

Monday Night: Rain before 10pm, then a chance of snow showers. The rain could be heavy at times. Low around 27. West southwest wind 14 to 20 mph becoming north northwest. Winds could gust as high as 26 mph. Chance of precipitation is 80%. Little or no snow accumulation expected.


Mike may end up with a mountain of mud in his front yard.

[Mkelcy]

Mike may end up with a mountain of mud in his front yard.

I think we're pretty okay. The ridges behind my house run pretty much east to west, not down hill toward us, and the fire was at least two ridges away, so our local earth is still held in place by plants. It's going to be really nasty where the burn areas got close to structures, and the Crest will see a lot of mud and debris flow.

When I went up last Tuesday, there were a lot of crews cleaning out storm water drainage basins and otherwise trying to get ready for the rains.

[CarlC]

90 vehicles stranded on muddy Angeles Crest Highway Sat 12 Dec 2009By Tony Barboza and Rong-Gong Lin IILos Angeles Times Staff Writer Multiple Page View Firefighters worked today to rescue people from 90 vehicles stuck in the mud along a 12-mile stretch of Angeles Crest Highway as the National Weather Service issued a flash-flood warning for the Station fire burn area in the San Gabriel Mountains.Local law enforcement officials reported flash flooding with mud and debris flow on Angeles Crest Highway about eight miles north of the 210 Freeway.At 3:15 p.m., firefighters responded to reports of scattered vehicles caught in mud flows between mile markers 27 and 39 on the highway, said Capt. Frank Reynoso of the Los Angeles County Fire Department.The road was closed earlier as a rainstorm bore down on the area, but some motorists made it through just before mud descended from the wildfire-denuded mountains, making stretches of the highway impassable."We are in process of completely sealing it off," Reynoso said. No injuries had been reported.Eighty-five firefighters were dispatched to the stuck vehicles while law enforcement officials directed traffic away from the area, Reynoso said.

[Lance-W]

Sounds like we need to find another place to go. It'll be at least a couple of years before it's "re-vegetated" :( ad the erosion stops happening every time it rains.

[406 Q-ship]

Lance, Where is your sense of adventure, don't you want to roll down the side of ACH in the Camaro? :)

[Lance-W]

BTDT in the White Mountains in the Sierras. 300 feet down at dusk in the snow on a dirt road. I lost count after the second time it rolled over....... I'll pass on doing it again.

[DFRESH]

Guys, has an alternate route been arrived at yet---any dates? Mike, just pick a date and place---

Doug

[Mkelcy]

Guys, has an alternate route been arrived at yet---any dates? Mike, just pick a date and place---

Doug

Well, it looks like the ACH is open now. Barring rain, it should stay open.

[DFRESH]

Well, it looks like the ACH is open now. Barring rain, it should stay open.


Let's go then---potential dates?

Doug

[-The Stig-]

ooo yes, dates!?

[CarlC]

Let's hear from Mike about road conditions. If it looks bad, I may have another option.

[DFRESH]

Just got new brakes up front---need to try them out---lets roll

[Mkelcy]

Let's hear from Mike about road conditions. If it looks bad, I may have another option.

I took a run up there today. The road is in great shape, Newcomb's is open and waiting, and there's less traffic, because the ANF is closed for all recreational uses until you get well past Newcomb's.

So 1-10-10 "Cruise the Crest"?

[CarlC]

Uh, sorry Mike.

How about the 24th?

[Mkelcy]

How about the 24th?

The 24th works for me.

[DFRESH]

Just checked with my "Chief Scheduler--wife"--24th works. What time do you guys typically assemble?

Doug

[Nessumsar]

6:30am at the Shell station south of the west-bound off ramp and just north of the east-bound off ramp.

Sound like the 24th is a go?