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    1. #1
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      Long Trans-Am Style Lug Nuts

      I'm having a set of the long, Trans-Am style lug nuts made up for my VWW V40's and would like to know if anyone else would be interested in a set. These lug nuts look great on vintage wheels like the ones offered by VWW or even original rallyes. They will be 7/16"x20 and made out of 7/8" 304/stainless steel hex bar stock. I know that you can buy them for 1/2" studs but are impossible to find for 7/16" studs. If you know Musclecarjohn, these should look pretty much the same as his since I am using one of his lug nuts as a template. If anyone would like to place on order for a set of these, please PM me and we can discuss the details.



      Mark E.
      '68 RS/SS Camaro, 350 c.i./400 hp, Thumper Cam, Hurst shifter, Muncie M-21, Pypes H-pipe w/violator mufflers, 18" Rushforth Battery Wheels


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      Great to see you're offering these Mark,what price will you be asking?
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      Quote Originally Posted by musclecarjohn View Post
      Great to see you're offering these Mark,what price will you be asking?
      I'm working on the first set and trying to get a handle on how much time it will take to machine them. The 7/8" 304 stainless hex bar stock is around $100 for a 72" length. As soon as the first set is done, I will have an idea on what the machining will cost and I will post a final price than. I'm posting this to get an idea of how many guys would be interested in a set. The more sets, the lower the final price will be. Thanks for asking John.
      Mark E.
      '68 RS/SS Camaro, 350 c.i./400 hp, Thumper Cam, Hurst shifter, Muncie M-21, Pypes H-pipe w/violator mufflers, 18" Rushforth Battery Wheels

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      I need a 1/2" set for my Nova, like yesterday. Anyone have any?

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      Quote Originally Posted by DriverzInc View Post
      I need a 1/2" set for my Nova, like yesterday. Anyone have any?
      I'm going to need 1/2-20 as well. Gotta confirm the bevel though.
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    6. #6
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      Any thoughts on the following?

      1. Tensile strength of 304 stainless vs high strength steel used in a OEM style nut
      2. Forged/rolled threads vs cut threads
      3. Thread engagement
      4. Galling

      A quick search for stainless steel lug nuts turned up some from Gorilla that use what looks like a 304 stainless cover and a cold headed vanadium seating surface.
      http://www.gorilla-auto.com/lifetime.lug.nuts.stainless

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      PS Engineering sells those style lug nuts,I think. Might be easier to just purchase them from Phil.

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      Quote Originally Posted by DriverzInc View Post
      I need a 1/2" set for my Nova, like yesterday. Anyone have any?
      Jon,

      You can pick up the 1/2" lugs at this site:( http://www.maecomotorsport.com/Index...e4Catalog.html )
      Look under tires & wheels. Hope this helps you out.
      Mark E.
      '68 RS/SS Camaro, 350 c.i./400 hp, Thumper Cam, Hurst shifter, Muncie M-21, Pypes H-pipe w/violator mufflers, 18" Rushforth Battery Wheels

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      Quote Originally Posted by USAZR1 View Post
      PS Engineering sells those style lug nuts,I think. Might be easier to just purchase them from Phil.
      Believe me, when I did my search for these lug nuts, I tried to get through to these people to find out about availability and had no luck. That's why I decided to make up a set on my own and offer them to other guys out there who also can't find them anywhere else! If you can get through to Phil and find out if he has these lug nuts in 7/16"x20 (stainless steel) available, I would be first in line to buy a set.
      Mark E.
      '68 RS/SS Camaro, 350 c.i./400 hp, Thumper Cam, Hurst shifter, Muncie M-21, Pypes H-pipe w/violator mufflers, 18" Rushforth Battery Wheels

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      Guys, 304SS is fine for exhaust tubing. It is not a suitable material for lug nuts.

      There are other SS alloys that are suitable. Please, before someone's wheel falls off, check this out a little more.

      jp
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      I like them and i whant them for my car have V45 rims. can you post a picture of the intyer car just for the looks of it!!!!!!!

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      Quote Originally Posted by parsonsj View Post
      Guys, 304SS is fine for exhaust tubing. It is not a suitable material for lug nuts.

      There are other SS alloys that are suitable. Please, before someone's wheel falls off, check this out a little more.

      jp
      If you're the expert on SS alloys (no disrespect meant), than which one do you recommend? I have talked to a couple of machinists who gave their thumbs up on 304SS for these lugs! Any info you could provide would be appreciated.
      Mark E.
      '68 RS/SS Camaro, 350 c.i./400 hp, Thumper Cam, Hurst shifter, Muncie M-21, Pypes H-pipe w/violator mufflers, 18" Rushforth Battery Wheels

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      I would suggest you stay away from SS altogether due to it's tendency to gall. The conical seat will only aggravate the tendency.

      If you are going to sell a product with this liability potential you shouldn't be querying internet "experts" for advice on bolted joint design.

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      Quote Originally Posted by JohnUlaszek View Post
      I would suggest you stay away from SS altogether due to it's tendency to gall. The conical seat will only aggravate the tendency.

      If you are going to sell a product with this liability potential you shouldn't be querying internet "experts" for advice on bolted joint design.
      I have run these on all three cars I own for well over 5 years now and no galling issues whatsoever.Mine are made from 309 bar stock.

      And when I say I've had them on & off the car changing wheels almost weekly,believe me...
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      Quote Originally Posted by JohnUlaszek View Post
      I would suggest you stay away from SS altogether due to it's tendency to gall. The conical seat will only aggravate the tendency.

      If you are going to sell a product with this liability potential you shouldn't be querying internet "experts".
      Somehow I knew this was going to happen. Everyone putting in they're two cents and criticizing the product. I was only asking if anyone was interested in a set of these hard to find lug nuts since I'm having a set made up for myself. I wasn't planning on making any money on them either, just what they cost to make and ship. As of now I am removing the offer for these lug nuts and if anyone else needs a set they can have them made up themselves.
      Mark E.
      '68 RS/SS Camaro, 350 c.i./400 hp, Thumper Cam, Hurst shifter, Muncie M-21, Pypes H-pipe w/violator mufflers, 18" Rushforth Battery Wheels

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      Awesome.
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      Quote Originally Posted by USAZR1 View Post
      PS Engineering sells those style lug nuts,I think. Might be easier to just purchase them from Phil.
      FYI, I just talked to Phil and he only has them in 1/2"x20.
      Mark E.
      '68 RS/SS Camaro, 350 c.i./400 hp, Thumper Cam, Hurst shifter, Muncie M-21, Pypes H-pipe w/violator mufflers, 18" Rushforth Battery Wheels

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      If you are you confident you have a safe product, then you shouldn't let self proclaimed ineternet "experts" sway you myself included.

      I am not saying what you are doing can't work, but there is much more involved in bolted joint design than what looks right or what may have worked for someone else.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Mark68 View Post
      FYI, I just talked to Phil and he only has them in 1/2"x20.
      I have 2 sets,they are just flash-plated nickel on mild steel and they flake and peel just by looking at them wrong so have at it with PSE lugs if that's your bag.

      Plus mine were shank-style to fit AR200S wheels...
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      I'd consult a certified materials engineer. Machinists are great people, and many know a lot about different materials, but a materials engineer is the thing for this.

      304SS is not rated for torqued fasteners. YMMV.
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