Home owners get revenge

[TonyHuntimer]

In these tough times, some home owners are hiring services to renegotiate their loans with financial institutions. Unfortunately there have been lots of these services pulling a scam by collecting money from trusting individuals and doing nothing for the home owners. A problem with these scammers, is the home owners are so blinded by wanting to save their homes that they don't know (or care) that services are not legally allowed to take money until the service is finished. There are free services available to help negotiate your loans, but they take longer and are not as effective in some cases. A lot of these scammers have been prosecuted for bilking money from home owners that are left with nothing.

I'm not saying that this is what happened here...but it's possible.

Disclaimer: Due to the nature of the crime, I don't condone this behavior, but have to say that I found it interesting. :)

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/10/26/financial/f145705D39.DTL&tsp=1

Prosecutors say five people have been charged in Los Angeles with torturing and robbing two men they thought falsely promised to save their home from foreclosure.

Two men were charged Monday with torture, robbery and false imprisonment. A man and two women pleaded not guilty to the same charges Friday.

Prosecutors say two of the suspects hired loan modification agents in hopes of keeping their home but believed the men took their money and did nothing.
Prosecutors claim the victims were lured to Glendale on Oct. 20, held for hours, beaten and robbed before one escaped.
All five suspects remained jailed on about $1 million bail each.

[ITLBTU]

I don't condone what they did... but.. what if they were mugged, and then got some of their buddies and found the thugs and beat them, whould they be put in jail and held on 1 mill bail?

[Mr.VENGEANCE]

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[rich_fbodySS]

Lots of scammers out there right now, trying to take advantage of people when they're desperate for help.
I feel the same, don't want to condone this type of action, but maybe a few of these incidents will convince some would-be scammers to think twice about taking advantage of the desperate homeowners.
-Rich-

[Jim Nilsen]

Fear of the law is nothing compared to the fear of someone who is breaking it and you at the same time.

[Mr.VENGEANCE]

yup.. laws out the window at that point.. so whats left?.. the badguys morality?.. well in this case the "goodguys"?

[absintheisfun]

Fear of the law is nothing compared to the fear of someone who is breaking it and you at the same time.

why do you think that violent crime lowers each time a concealed carry law goes into effect?

[mc84_zz4]

why do you think that violent crime lowers each time a concealed carry law goes into effect?

There is a report from the FBI regarding the decrease in crime relating to concealed-carry states:

http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Federal/Read.aspx?id=4181

"In 2007, the major U.S. cities with the highest murder rates were cities with severe gun control. The top three? Detroit (where Michigan law requires a permit to purchase a handgun), Baltimore (where Maryland law restricts private handgun sales and requires a seven-day waiting period on handgun sales by dealers), and the District of Columbia (with its handgun ban and its firearm registration law). Detroit, Baltimore, Philadelphia, and D.C. had the highest robbery rates.

In 2007, as in years past, Right-to-Carry states had lower violent crime rates, on average, compared to the rest of the country with total violent crime lower by 24 percent, murder by 28 percent, robbery by 50 percent, and aggravated assault by 11 percent. Further, in 2007, 32 percent of murders were committed without firearms of any sort--knives accounted for 12 percent, hands and feet six percent, and blunt objects four percent. Rifles and shotguns (semi-automatic and otherwise) accounted for three percent each, and typically "assault weapons" have accounted for about one percent.
"


I am not advocating becoming the wild west, but consider what are you going to do if the bad guys are armed, and the police cannot make it to your house in 3 minutes? CCW permits require completing a safety training class, I have friends swear by the information they learned.
http://www.learnaboutguns.com/tag/why-i-support-gun-rights/

There are many stories like this one, of local people stopping robbers:
http://www.wxyz.com/news/local/story/UPDATE-Gun-Beats-Bomb-in-Bank-Robbery/F9S43ooAc06DhhI3wU0Tdg.cspx