Sub location in 69 Camaro

[69X22]

I am planning on running 1 12" sub in a custom box. Would it sound better with the speaker facing the rear of the seat or in the middle of the rear deck panel.

[67speedfreak]

Rear deck.

We mounted a 10" in the rear deck of our 68 and it sounds great.

12' will be tight though. You could do a band pass encloser and port it through the rear deck.

Brian

[CarPlayLB]

Bass frequencies are non-directional...meaning you can put them wherever you need to. I have 2 10's in my '69 Camaro, and they face into the trunk with plenty of bass! They are in a box over the axle right behind the rear seat. My buddies and I always made the box fit the car and then figure out speaker placement. It may a be a little better facing up into the rear deck, but only if you cut a hole for it! Some 12's need a lot of enclosure space...make sure you read the manufactures specs and get out your calculator! Good luck!

[69X22]

Do you guys have any pictures of your setups, that you could post?
Thanks

[67speedfreak]

Here is a pic of the rear deck in my 68.

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[67 ls1 vert]

Here is a pic of the rear deck in my 68.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/10/IMG_5965-1.jpg
That looks clean.

[69X22]

That looks clean.
nice! thanks

[jkwalkercchs]

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2 sets of mb quart components
2 12in mb quart shallow mount subs
classic autosound headunit with ipod control
memphis big belle amplifier 5ch

this system rocks

the next one i do im going with jl audio shallow mount subs and jl audio components and amp

also im gonna do some fiberglass work on the inside of the quaters to put a 12in woofer on each side of the trunk and build a false floor to hide the amp

[68fusion]

or like this...


https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/10/toddcamaro584-1.jpg

[67speedfreak]

or like this...


https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/10/toddcamaro584-1.jpg

That looks sweet !

[Chris 68]

hey don't mean to high jack here, but I just got an infinty 12" sub and building a custom box, do you guys think 1 12 will be enough? I'm looking for STRONG bass, nothing too over the top, a good balance that can be used with rap AND rock...

[PT Sportwagon]

Chris, a single 12" is plenty for strong bass. I used a single 12 in a sealed box in my 2002 Sound quality world champion all I needed.

Tim

[MonzaRacer]

Boxes make it lower and sharper, where as a good free air adds more subtle bass and less "hit" .
Big trick is using inductor coils on subs and as you lower the ohm ratings the higher the rating needs to be.
This is called crossing in the first order and honestly I have never found that I needed to do much more in a car.
Lots of guys buy big dollar electronics and yet I have put many systems together using "caps and coils" Capacitor to cross the highs and mids and inductor "coils" on my subs to "cross" them so only lower end of the signals go through the speekers.
My 71 Monte had 2 10" Blaupunkt Pro Components mounted facing forward to the rear seat upright, and my 6x9s mounted normally and the car was awesome sounding.
The car before it was in was my 70 and I had cut out the package tray and rear seat firewall and mounted a 2'x4' peice of plywood and my Marantz amp too, I really need to scan that pic.
And it turns out the amp is one of only 1500 ever made!
That system made 360 wats total, set down a RTA of 39 out of 40 with front speakers and 36 in the 71 Monte, RTA is Real Time Analyzation or how well the music synced up, too much electronics and it goes down.
On a 4 ohm system, keep your RMS input no more than 90% of the RMS speaker rating, this protects the voice coils, I really prefer to keep it in the 80% but that setup I had issues on finding speakers that went much over 100watts RMS.
But crossed as they were I could get about 2 years out of 6x9s and I never lost a sub, well except for the one I left on the roof of a car.
I prefer 10"s over 12"s but thats me. 1 to 2 10"s and couple of 8"s in rear seat area, couple of 6x9s in rear package, some 4 1/2s, 5s, or 6 1/4 or 6 1/2s up front say in doors or kick panels and couple of tweeters in a pillars or up in head liner or my favorite the rearview mirror mounted tweeters.

[Richio1]

my 69 camaro set up...3 10's with a RF Punch 800...its actually too much bass so I am rebuilding a 2 sub box.

[Richio1]

Here are a few more for you too... I took these to get some ideas before I built my trunk kit

[Richio1]

Sean over at Gearhead Garage does some awesome work...

[snackbar]

IMO two tens is gobs. I would spend more on dynamat and get the system "tuned" rather than how many or how much. The right speakers with proper placement makes all the difference. Unless you want to break out the 80's spandex butt rock and mullet wig than hell...cram them anywhere you can!

[killer67]

Face them towards the trunk - clean look

[1976CamaroGuy]

Face them towards the trunk - clean look

I'm fighting with myself right now on the orientation of the subs.

I've been doing car audio for almost 22 years and in the past I would fire the subs towards the rear. In my old hatchbacks it would hit pretty hard because of the boost from corner loading. Hatchbacks are nice because the subs are still inside the car.

But now I don't know if I want to fire my sub towards the rear in my 76 camaro because of all the metal it has to find it's way through to get into the interior for good sound. This would be even more of a task if I build wooden trim panels to make the trunk more finished out.

By firing the subs towards the rear complete with trim panels it would essentially be no different than putting subs in the bed of a truck. Or it seems.

I'm thinking about cutting the center of my rear deck and firing a single 8" or 10" sub through the rear deck in an enclosure. This will allow the subwoofer to take use of the glass to provide a little boost.

Opinions or suggestions?

[69Cam620]

I purchased the Infinity Kappa series BASSLINK II. It is fully enclosed including the amp and has an expansion slot for a 4 channel amp to power the other speakers. you can mount vertical or flat. I have a 69 Camaro and wanted good clean sound, but without the appearance of a sub existing. Found that with the mounts in the flat position it can be mounted to the underside of the rear deck and barely visible.

Can't comment on sound yet since car isn't finished being built, but should be good.

Links:
http://www.infinitysystems.de/car/products/product_detail.aspx?prod=BASSLINK%20II&cat=BSL&ser=BSL&Language=ENG&Country=US&Region=USA

50 watt by 4 expansion card - http://www.infinitysystems.com/car/products/product_detail.aspx?prod=BASSLINK%204SC&CheckProduct=Y&Language=ENG&Country=US&Region=USA

http://www.amazon.com/Infinity-Reference-Basslink-II-Subwoofer/dp/B000A6GK4E

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[CarQz17]

Here is a pic of the rear deck in my 68.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/10/IMG_5965-1.jpg

Could you post pics of the enclosure from the trunk view?

[rfalker1]

I blew my infinity bass link after a summer wouldn't go with from my expeirence (had it professionally installed too)
But 69's aren't that big of cars, I say one 10' unless you want crazy engine drowning bass. I have a 68 camaro, custom box in the trunk, 1 jl audio w7 and a 500 watt rms jl mono amp only 530 for those two pieces two if you shop around!!!! good luck

[rfalker1]

P.S CHad I wish u the best on the infinity bass tube, it sounds great but just had an bad expeirence

[1976CamaroGuy]

I forgot about this thread, I ended up coming up with something in my 76 camaro. Here are some pics:




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[79TA97TT]

or like this...


https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/10/toddcamaro584-1.jpg
Wow now that's nice!

[duckmanjbr]

Some of these pics throughout the thread look great but if you're looking to stay in a lower price point and not spend thousands for an install do your research and put more time into design than money into equipment! Small things like box design and reverb direction can make a much better impact on overall sound than just spending money on gear. An example would be box design. A plain equal sized side box will not give you as good sound as changing up the wall sizes within the box. The unequal walls of a box help to eliminate cancelization within the box. Little things! Another cheat I always try to maximize on is using the rear glass pane. If you can fire the sub off a rear window and don't allow any cancilization from the trunk area you can increase DB output by a DB or more. It's almost like amplifing the soundwave and forcing it to be directional. Base generally is non-directional but do some research into major DB vehicles. You'll find that all the leaders do try to "focus" or directionalize the wave output!