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rlplive
10-14-2009, 05:47 PM
Hey guys, I am going to be buying a Hobart handler 140. I have a car that needs plenty of metal work. This will be my first time welding. Are there any instructional dvd's out there on bodywork and welding? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Ryan

Twentyover
10-14-2009, 06:42 PM
Couple months back Hot Rod sent out a DVD "Complete Bodywork and ShetbMetal Prep"

866.730.0855

About replacing sheet metal on a Chevelle ragtop

justasquid
10-14-2009, 10:38 PM
nice choice in a welder. Hobart makes some nice welders at a good price. I have a Miller 180 and love it. I'm amazed at how good they actually weld for small machines.

Im not sure of any dvd's, but I'm sure a search on ebay would yield some results.

Instead of dvd's though, and if a tech school is not an option, go to hobarts website. They have a technical section that will help. Miller has some good stuff on their website as well. They have a great techinical section for the beginner with video links a good discussion forum.
http://www.millerwelds.com/

here is another good online resource for welders.
http://weldingweb.com/

And, believe it or not, Youtube is another great source for finding welding tips. Just type in welding. the best part of youtube is you can sign up for a free account, then save any video you want to resource back to.

I haven't purchased hardly any dvd's on anything in a long time. You can find just about anything you want on the internet. And honestly, its easier ( for me at least) to just look it up and have links saved so they are quick access. You won't have to fiddle through a dvd to go back to a section you might be having issues with.

rlplive
10-15-2009, 09:44 AM
I was going to consider going to a tech school. I have decided against it right now for a few reasons. Firstly I have a baby coming in a few months, so time will be of the essence, and they don't even cover mig welding until like 3 semesters in. I am going to have a guy I work with teach me some tricks, but I also want to teach myself as much as I can. What other tools are a must have for replacing and repairing sheetmetal? A cutoff wheel maybe? Thanks for the tips so far guys.
Ryan

derekf
10-15-2009, 10:28 AM
Believe Ron Covell has a couple of welding DVDs; I even at one point found a website where you could rent instructional DVDs on welding, knifemaking, transmission repair, etc.; I can't find the link now though.

My local community college had a great "Intro to Welding" class. They've also got some bodywork classes that I haven't taken yet (getting a degree takes priority).

jackfrost
10-20-2009, 09:59 AM
I got the "MIG Welding Automotive Sheet Metal" DVD from here:
http://www.howtoasap.com

it's pretty good. about as much as you can expect from a video.

I second the Youtube suggestion. there's a ton of stuff on there, and it's free.

blown9746
10-20-2009, 12:24 PM
I have a question to go along with this. If I've never welded before, but bought a similar machine is stuff like replacing quarters, minitubs, etc doable for a beginner?

rlplive
10-20-2009, 06:30 PM
I have a question to go along with this. If I've never welded before, but bought a similar machine is stuff like replacing quarters, minitubs, etc doable for a beginner?
Good question, this is what I plan on doing. I am determined to learn how to do it.

blown9746
10-20-2009, 08:28 PM
I'm just wondering if it might be better to buy a really cheap car to do this on first? Or if you take your time and are just learning can you do a good job

CRCRFT78
10-20-2009, 11:00 PM
Order this dvd, you won't be disappointed.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif

http://www.metalshapingzone.com/shop/start

cheapthrillz
10-21-2009, 04:56 AM
The best thing to do is learn how to set up your welder for the exact welding you intend to do. Once you get past that, it is all technique and using your senses. If it sounds like sizzling bacon, you're probably doing alright. The main thing is practice. Just like any other skill, you will never be any good if you don't practice. Now whether that means welding on your p-t car or playing with scraps is up to you, but I would get some scraps and try to think of the hardest welds in the hardest orientation and practice. Practice until you can do it. Once you can weld that, the others will be much easier. I'm in the same boat as you guys, but I have had the luck of having a fab class (very minimal though). Good luck!

Oh... always look at your pool and not what you've already welded!

John Wright
10-21-2009, 05:09 AM
Haven't watched any of these yet, but I saw this in a welding mag....

http://www.thefabricator.com/pwtv/

jackfrost
10-23-2009, 11:17 AM
I have a question to go along with this. If I've never welded before, but bought a similar machine is stuff like replacing quarters, minitubs, etc doable for a beginner?

this is what I'm doing. make sure you have a good unit, and practice awhile first. I'm starting with the floors and inner wheel tubs, so the welds don't have to perfect.

the great thing about welding is, if you screw it up, you can cut it out and try it again.

John Wright
10-23-2009, 11:21 AM
Working with metal is better than working with wood in that respect...LOL..unless you have one of those wood welders.

BA.
10-23-2009, 12:56 PM
I got the "MIG Welding Automotive Sheet Metal" DVD from here:
http://www.howtoasap.com

it's pretty good. about as much as you can expect from a video.

I second the Youtube suggestion. there's a ton of stuff on there, and it's free.


I got that one too just out of pure convenience. I am only partially through it but I do like it.
Way better than that douche that was on that free Hot Rod DVD. He was a bit annoying.

I've never welded before either but my dad gave me his Lincoln T70 or something like that.
I practiced for all of about 20 minutes before starting on this 66 Impala I picked up last year. This is where I will learn to weld. :)
http://www.impalas.net/forums/blog.php?b=6

After putting patches in some floor areas, I tackled a patch-panel on the passenger quarter. I still suck, but I'm learning. Luckily I have a friend who welds and can oversee/fix my screw-ups.
He said my welding was called "Bird ****" amongst welders. :) lol. Nice.

Here's my patch work...(with buddies help a little)
http://www.impalas.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2651

You know my vote,.....watch the DVD and jump in. Then post pics for critiquing!
Welding is FUN, and grinding is NOISY but best of all it's MANLY. Have fun!

rlplive
10-23-2009, 02:44 PM
I got that one too just out of pure convenience. I am only partially through it but I do like it.
Way better than that douche that was on that free Hot Rod DVD. He was a bit annoying.

I've never welded before either but my dad gave me his Lincoln T70 or something like that.
I practiced for all of about 20 minutes before starting on this 66 Impala I picked up last year. This is where I will learn to weld. :)
http://www.impalas.net/forums/blog.php?b=6

After putting patches in some floor areas, I tackled a patch-panel on the passenger quarter. I still suck, but I'm learning. Luckily I have a friend who welds and can oversee/fix my screw-ups.
He said my welding was called "Bird ****" amongst welders. :) lol. Nice.

Here's my patch work...(with buddies help a little)
http://www.impalas.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2651

You know my vote,.....watch the DVD and jump in. Then post pics for critiquing!
Welding is FUN, and grinding is NOISY but best of all it's MANLY. Have fun!
Heck yeah man, I just ordered a brand new hobart 140 that came with a bottle for $450 shipped. I am pretty pumped about that. My buddy who has been welding for around 20 years is going to give me lessons. I will be starting with a full floor pan, as my car seems to have been hit pretty hard at some point in time. I am sure that will lead to rocker and windshield work as well. Then I will probably go to the trunk and inner wheel houses, then quarters and outers, then I will have to see what shape the roof is in. I plan to drive mine while fixing it up.