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Ash
10-06-2009, 08:47 AM
With Barret Jackson approaching, and 1980 almost 20 years back, I started thinking what will be the next generation of collectible cars several decades from now. Vehicles from the 80's & early 90's that are common and relatively affordable now, but will be highly sought after down the road.

Post up your candidates

Grand National (Big bucks down the road)
Buick T-Type
Monte Carlo Fastback
Mitsubishi Starion/Chrystler Conquest
Nissan 240's
Toyota Trueno/levin

67 ls1 vert
10-06-2009, 09:56 AM
I agree that the Grand Nationals will be one.

Just watching Bar-Jact'n last night and they said that old trucks are the big ticket items now.

twosaturns
10-06-2009, 10:01 AM
if it was easy to predict what will be collectable, they wouldn't be collectable.

Rybar
10-06-2009, 10:16 AM
87-93 Fox Body Mustangs for sure
87-92 3rd Gen Camaro & Firebirds
Buick GNs
94-95 Impalla SS
96+ SS & Ram Air 4th Gen Camaro & Firebirds

Rhino
10-06-2009, 11:02 AM
I agree that the Grand Nationals will be one.

Just watching Bar-Jact'n last night and they said that old trucks are the big ticket items now.

Could you quantify "old"? My DVR somehow missed the last auction.

Young Gun
10-06-2009, 11:36 AM
fox body 5.0's
GnX
T Types

67 ls1 vert
10-06-2009, 12:55 PM
if it was easy to predict what will be collectable, they wouldn't be collectable.:squint:

67 ls1 vert
10-06-2009, 12:58 PM
Could you quantify "old"? My DVR somehow missed the last auction.

yeah It was a late 50's that the owner said it was way beyond salvageable to make it original so he tricked it out with a big CI BB lots of chrome with leather and wood interior and a beautiful stained and cleared bed planks. If I remember right it sold for around 80 to 90g's.

CRCRFT78
10-06-2009, 01:52 PM
G-bodies from the 80s such as;
442/Hurst Cutlass
GNX/Grand National/T-Type
Monte Carlo SS/Aerocoupe
Pontiac Grand Prix 2+2
El Camino SS/Choo Choo Customs
Any Malibu/El Camino 4 speed cars

absintheisfun
10-06-2009, 02:32 PM
Syclones & Typhoons

DarkBuddha
10-06-2009, 02:37 PM
Merkur XR4TI... and it's already happening. I've seen some very nice examples sell for good money. There are just some weird people out there I guess.

Ash
10-06-2009, 02:42 PM
if it was easy to predict what will be collectable, they wouldn't be collectable.


I don't think so. Just look at how popular the "Would you buy your first car back" thread is. Alot People in their late teens to early 30's that are into cars started wrenching and modifying what they had. whether it be a G-Body, 3rd gen F-body (like myself), Honda, mini truck, etc....just as people today shell out big bucks for a pristine restored version of their first car, so will they.

72ratnova
10-06-2009, 02:43 PM
Syclones & Typhoons
x2 those are sort of collectible right now

absintheisfun
10-06-2009, 03:48 PM
x2 those are sort of collectible right now

sorry...untouched, pristine syty's...those are about as rare as they come!

Andrew McBride
10-06-2009, 05:55 PM
:attn: the delorean?

All of the SS slp camaros
Monte Carlo SS
Buick GN
454 SS trucks
impala ss-love the mid 90's ones
ford lightnings
typhoon, cyclones
mecum trans am-and ram air ta's

I think the 911's, ZR1's will continue to hold and increase value

joemac
10-06-2009, 06:20 PM
Cobra mustangs/terminator cobra
Thunderbird SC
SVO mustangs/fox mustangs/sn95 mustangs
1st and 2nd gen lightning
Mercury marauder

Viper
SRT10 pickup
CRD jeep liberty
Cummins pickups if Chrysler stops using them for engines
SRT4 neon
SRT8 Grand Cherokee

Buick GN
Impala SS
F bodies of all years
Monte SS
Sy/ty
1500 SS

bl1tzw1ng
10-06-2009, 07:04 PM
Shelby Series 1
LT4 Firehawks
Hurst Editon Firebirds

And pretty much what everyone else has said

joe440
10-06-2009, 07:09 PM
a lotta the above and honda s2000

dadto2jays
10-06-2009, 07:27 PM
Toyota Supra 93 & up
Mazda Rx7 92 & up
Chevy 454ss truck
IROC z's
along other that have been mentioned

joemac
10-07-2009, 02:53 AM
a lotta the above and honda s2000

I would concur with this and also add the Subaru WRX

twosaturns
10-07-2009, 04:16 AM
:squint:
the OP was asking about what will be collectable several decades from now. as regards what WILL be collectable, you can never tell. like w/ comic books; the very reason that some ARE collectable is because they weren't considered valuable when they were new, kids just threw them out. so any that did survive are valuable.
a sure way to make sure a comic DOESN'T increase in value is to make it a 'special edition'. a few years back DC comics killed off superman, special issue in black plastic and all that. EVERY comic book collector got a copy or few and put it away. well, it's not valuable if everyone has one.
same w/ Lionel trains. parents got rid of the trains when their sons got older and moved out. nobody thought they were worth saving.
now, think about how FOX mustangs were treated when new; they were raced and thrashed. how many survive unmolested? nobody ever thought they would be 'collectable'. maybe they will be.
point being, you really can't predict something 'will be' collectable. lots of guys sell cars at a loss after hoarding it for many years, hoping to cash in one day. I just read about a guy that sold a pace car vette for like pennies on the dollar. he bought it new and garaged it. 1800 miles.
people nver mothballed FOX mustangs, so maybe there will be a market for clean, unmolested ones.

mjdwyer23
10-07-2009, 05:13 AM
GN's are at a funny point in their life cycle. There are a ton of them out there, a lot of them are getting parted, and there is very little reproduced for them. I do agree that the low mile, unmolested cars will pull in coin in the future as they do now. 90% of these cars are modified/cut up/raced/etc at this point. I don't buy cars as an investment, but it will be interesting to see where they go.

formula
10-07-2009, 05:37 AM
the very reason that some ARE collectable is because they weren't considered valuable when they were new, kids just threw them out. so any that did survive are valuable.
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now, think about how FOX mustangs were treated when new; they were raced and thrashed. how many survive unmolested? nobody ever thought they would be 'collectable'. maybe they will be.
point being, you really can't predict something 'will be' collectable. lots of guys sell cars at a loss after hoarding it for many years, hoping to cash in one day. I just read about a guy that sold a pace car vette for like pennies on the dollar. he bought it new and garaged it. 1800 miles.
people nver mothballed FOX mustangs, so maybe there will be a market for clean, unmolested ones.

Obviously you can't KNOW what will be collectible, but I think we can certainly predict--and I don't just mean guess--what will be. As you said, cars that ultimately end up being valuable are generally the ones that, after x amount of time, are very hard to get ahold of for one reason or another. This can either be because there were TONS of them and they all got trashed (1st gen and now, to an extent, 2nd gen f-bodies), or because there weren't many of them to begin with for one reason or another and those that are left suddenly become sought after (challenger/cuda).

Based on that argument, I think a couple "future classics" will be the high-level imports that were both generally out of reach of your run of the mill tuner guy but still frequently rebuilt and thrashed on--s2000s, Supras, RX7s, m3s, etc.

I could also see how some underdog-performance cars could become pretty valuable--new GTOs, G8 GXPs, stuff like that where for one reason or another, just not that many are out there, but they're still a fun, fast car.

But...tha's jus' me.

moreHP
10-07-2009, 06:48 AM
GN's are at a funny point in their life cycle. There are a ton of them out there, a lot of them are getting parted, and there is very little reproduced for them. I do agree that the low mile, unmolested cars will pull in coin in the future as they do now. 90% of these cars are modified/cut up/raced/etc at this point. I don't buy cars as an investment, but it will be interesting to see where they go.


Very true. Much like the muscle cars most of us enjoy today. An awful lot of them were modded beyond belief. I worked at a race shop and we did several back halfs on GN's and even one GNX in the late 80's that became drag cars.

Ash
10-07-2009, 04:28 PM
Obviously you can't KNOW what will be collectible, but I think we can certainly predict--and I don't just mean guess--what will be. As you said, cars that ultimately end up being valuable are generally the ones that, after x amount of time, are very hard to get ahold of for one reason or another. This can either be because there were TONS of them and they all got trashed (1st gen and now, to an extent, 2nd gen f-bodies), or because there weren't many of them to begin with for one reason or another and those that are left suddenly become sought after (challenger/cuda).

Based on that argument, I think a couple "future classics" will be the high-level imports that were both generally out of reach of your run of the mill tuner guy but still frequently rebuilt and thrashed on--s2000s, Supras, RX7s, m3s, etc.

I could also see how some underdog-performance cars could become pretty valuable--new GTOs, G8 GXPs, stuff like that where for one reason or another, just not that many are out there, but they're still a fun, fast car.

But...tha's jus' me.


I agree, hard to picture some of the already stated cars getting a "no expense spared" rotisserie restoration down the road, but I can see it happening.

When did the six figure muscle car auctions start? and I wonder how much SPEED progressing into a non-specialty channel, with the cabel/satellite carriers, added to their sky high prices.

cudaman
10-08-2009, 06:17 AM
Pinto
Vega
Chevette
Pacer
Gremlin
Matador
Dodge Magnum (70's)

Nicks67GTO
10-08-2009, 09:46 PM
GN's and T types will be collectable. Maybe some Fox body 5.0 GT Mustangs. Dodge Daytona's, 79-81 Malibu's are cool but they didnt have any collectable "high end performance" models did they? What about IROC-Z's?

IMO none of these will be as collectable as the essential musclecar classics though. The only ones that would be close are the GN's and T types

twosaturns
10-09-2009, 06:54 AM
GN's and T types will be collectable. Maybe some Fox body 5.0 GT Mustangs. Dodge Daytona's, 79-81 Malibu's are cool but they didnt have any collectable "high end performance" models did they? What about IROC-Z's?

IMO none of these will be as collectable as the essential musclecar classics though. The only ones that would be close are the GN's and T types
it'll be a cold day in hell before anyone is 'collecting' FWD cars. there are some cool ones (GTI's, omni GLHS, turbo daytonas, the current colbalt SS, ION red line) but none of them will ever be collectable, in the barret jackson way.
metric malibus didn't have an SS version, but they DID have rare 305/4 speed combos, some stick wagons also.
some people are into the '80s 442's, hurst/olds, etc, but again, it's not a high end auction kind of thing, IMO.
but then again, what do I know? I like '73 'A' bodies!