Wheels are not Hub centric???

[skeeters65]

The wheels on my car do not center themselves on the hub. They only get centered by the studs..

Is this normal??


I have been chasing a vibration at high speed and was wondering if this could be the cause??

Thanks

[RYU]

try a stock wheel... if vibration is still there could be your wheel bearings or perhaps a bad brake rotor. The rotor was the culprit on my other car...

you've probably already checked this but have you balanced your wheels? lugcentric wheels are pretty common these days but I prefer hubcentric if at all doable.

[JRouche]

The wheels on my car do not center themselves on the hub. They only get centered by the studs..

Is this normal??

Yeah, yer prolly gonna see more cars that are located with the stud nuts. Its normal. JR

[skeeters65]

I have re-balanced the wheels and the driveshaft and changed the pinion angle.

I cant run stock wheels because of the size of my brakes and the off set of them.

The rear end is a brand new Moser 12 Bolt. I hope it isnt the bearings.


Someone told me to take the wheels off and just put the lug nuts back on and run it on jack stands!! Sounds like it would work but a little dangerous!!

[neki67]

Have you considered hubcentric rings/adapters?

[skeeters65]

Have you considered hubcentric rings/adapters?


Wasnt aware of such a thing... Where can I find them??
Only problem is my backspacing. Wont it change it?? I dont have any extra room..

Thanks

[John Wright]

Don't forget to try clocking the drive shaft 180°. Mystery vibes have come and gone by trying this.
Worth a shot.

[DriverzInc]

The majority of wheels today are not manufactured hubcentric, although most custom machined wheels could be. I know Schott Wheels are manufactured hub centric every time now. With most cars, they go through stages of new brake packages, and upgraded hubs and spindles etc., so most wheels are being machined with a 2.88" center bore or 3.072" center bore, which for the most part clear any upgrades.

Hub Centric rings are available, some companies can even make you custom rings to help center the wheel to your hub, and will not effect the wheel's offset as they sit inside the wheels center bore. A quick search on the web would probably bring up a dozen manufacturers. If you still want a set, I can get them for you too.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/09/HubCentricRings0001-1.jpg

As an alternative, you might look into ET Acorn style lugs. We use these exclusively, as they have a .33" shoulder that reaches into the wheel and grabs more stud, as well as giving the wheel something a little better to center up on.
We sell these for 1.25ea.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/09/ET_Lugs-1.jpg

[MarkM66]

Have you tried getting it up to speed, then putting it in neutral to see if the vibration is still there? That would eliminate the driveshaft as a suspect.

[neki67]

Only problem is my backspacing. Wont it change it?? I dont have any extra room..

Doesn't change your backspacing at all, it just fills the gap between the ID of the wheel and the OD of the hub and thereby centers the wheel on the hub.

[skeeters65]

John,
Any idea what the Hub Centric rings go for??
How to they "mount" are they just press fit??

Thanks

[buickfunnycar.com]

John,
Any idea what the Hub Centric rings go for??
How to they "mount" are they just press fit??

Thanks

Yes,press-fit.
The Enkei's Jon sold me for my DD Focus had them already installed when I received them.

[pitts64]

I was amazed at how much better my car rode and handled when I swapped my American Racing lug centered rims for hub centered chrome reverse steel rims for that 60s look.
http://www.rallyamerica.com/