II Much 2.0, ready for Barrett-Jackson

[Damn True]

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The van is a bad idea. Boys will be boys.

Think 2-door, 2-seat, ugly, slow and inefficient.

Early 80's 1/2ton 2wd pickup with a 305?*


* Bonus, you can employ said teenager and pickup for various domestic labor tasks, trips to the dump, go pick up gravel for the side yard, take this engine block to Frank etc and you can tow other toys.

[Bryce]

I've also gotten the go-ahead for my next project. And it's different than most rides here: a Mustang. So I'm looking for a clean, running, reliable 68-72 Mustang. Six cylinder/automatic with A/C a big plus, because this will be my kids' ride for their high school years. As they gain my confidence, we'll do some upgrades. Wheels, brakes, manual tranny, V8 over time. But only if they help, and only if their grades and attitude meet some minimum standards.

jp


WOOHOO, another mustang. If you need some suspension ideas, (HAHA. I know you dont.) I am building a 3 link and a SLA for my falcon.

[wiedemab]

t:


https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/10/1976ChryslerCordobaSportCoupe-1.jpg


Corinthian Leather - Too Nice for a Teenage driver!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIL3fbGbU2o

[Damn True]

No such thing as "Corinthian Leather" rich, or otherwise.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corinthian_leather
http://www.businessweek.com/the_thread/brandnewday/archives/2009/01/no_such_thing_a.html

[6'9"Witha69]

If I can make a suggestion here JP.

You might want to think about this a little differently. Perhaps from a risk assessment POV.

Now, remember when you were a teenager? Think about the various cars that you and your friends drove. Some had cool cars, some had lame cars. Some had cars that were fast, some had cars that were slow. Some had cars that got good mileage, some had gas-hogs.

Now when "the gang" went somewhere who'd car did they take?

Cool or lame?
Fast or slow?
Efficient or gas hog?

Here is my thinking: You want YOUR kid to be the kid with the lamest, slowest car amongst his/her friends and the car that gets the worst mileage. Why? Because teenagers do stupid stuff. Teenagers in groups do even stupider stuff. Ultimately, anything thing that happens in your kids car can come back to you in terms of liability.

If your kids car gets crap mileage they are likely to be broke and it's harder to get in trouble with no money in your pocket. Thus your kid is more likely to go out with the gang in someone else's car. That's good.

If your kids car is slow and lame the other kids will be less inclined to want to ride with your kid. Thus your kid is more likely to go out with the gang in someone else's car. That's good.

Combine the two and when/if some vehicular silliness does happen it's more likely to happen in someone else's car and it's more likely to be someone else's liability.

Now the hope is, and knowing you a little bit, the likelihood is that your kid will be of sound judgment. The other school of thought is that you'd hope that "the gang" would be with your level headed kid instead of "that kid" and that your kid won't be "that kid". But we all know that kids are kids and even the best ones sometimes have a lapse.

Just something to think about:



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I have to agree on every point. My good friend had a Kcar and I had a '66 mustang. He could also drive his mom's old grand Caravan. Guess which car we took EVERYWHERE!! It sure as hell wasn't the K car. Or the Caravan.

[67autocross]

That K Cars from Winnipeg!!!

[madmax]

If I can make a suggestion here JP.

[sic]


It's not like he's handing them a 600hp car.

It's a 6cyl Mustang. It's cool, slow, and is probably as efficient as a caravan.

It depends on the kids and parenting. From what I know about JP (my lurking on these forums), he seems like he's got a great head on his shoulders and leagues ahead of most on these boards.

My first car was an '03 Mustang GT - 240hp? Traded it in right after I graduated HS for a 400hp GTO. When it comes to "vehicular silliness," my parents would much rather have had ME doing it (responsible, educated driver) as opposed to a half-retarded (not PC enough?) friend of mine who had already been through 3 cars because they didn't know which pedal was for braking.

The selling point for the GT & GTO as opposed to an old piece of muscle - modern safety features (ABS, traction control, AIR BAGS, crumple zones, etc, etc). Something that a '66 Mustang doesn't have, as most of the hazards out there are from other drivers - and if the unthinkable were to happen, I'd trust my life to one them over the others.

Just one thing to consider.


-Max

[Flash68]

It's not like he's handing them a 600hp car.

It's a 6cyl Mustang. It's cool, slow, and is probably as efficient as a caravan.

It depends on the kids and parenting. From what I know about JP (my lurking on these forums), he seems like he's got a great head on his shoulders and leagues ahead of most on these boards.

My first car was an '03 Mustang GT - 240hp? Traded it in right after I graduated HS for a 400hp GTO. When it comes to "vehicular silliness," my parents would much rather have had ME doing it (responsible, educated driver) as opposed to a half-retarded (not PC enough?) friend of mine who had already been through 3 cars because they didn't know which pedal was for braking.

The selling point for the GT & GTO as opposed to an old piece of muscle - modern safety features (ABS, traction control, AIR BAGS, crumple zones, etc, etc). Something that a '66 Mustang doesn't have, as most of the hazards out there are from other drivers - and if the unthinkable were to happen, I'd trust my life to one them over the others.

Just one thing to consider.


-Max

Could not agree more here.

[parsonsj]

Milton (the new owner) has my final package now. User's and Maintenance Guide, all the specialty tools, all the documentation I'd acquired, and everything I could think of and fit in a box.

I also listed out all the "quirks", "issues", and things I was gonna do it if I had kept the car. Sort of a mind dump, I guess.

And I needed to do that: now I can move on. It's his car now. :)

jp

[parsonsj]

I hear all the suggestions about teenage vehicles and I've been through all the arguments myself. Newer cars are safer, for sure. You want your kid to be kind of cool in high school (self esteem), but not too cool that they turn into nightmares. I'd also like to nurture his budding car interests, for a purely selfish reason: I'd like to work on stuff with him. A father and son thing, and something I didn't have. So that's a strong consideration.

I've always thought the ideal teenage vehicle is a smaller pickup truck. They are inexpensive, under-powered, simple and easy to fix, a dent or two adds character, they sit high, they are safer with their perimeter frame, semi-cool, have no backseat (so gangs of 5 boys don't occur), and one can customize them a bit.

But my Kyle is a Mustang freak. I'm torn, and unsure what to do. I think an older 6 cyl auto Mustang might be safe enough, and would certainly put us in project heaven, so to speak.

I've still got time: he's just turned 13.

jp

[wiedemab]

No such thing as "Corinthian Leather" rich, or otherwise.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corinthian_leather
http://www.businessweek.com/the_thread/brandnewday/archives/2009/01/no_such_thing_a.html

I wasn't really implying that there was - I thought it was just something that they made up. I just remembered seeing some of these commercials and thought they were classic!

[wiedemab]

Best of both worlds!

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/10/pu2-1.jpg

I couldn't resist.

[parsonsj]

For me, it's impossible to say "Corinthian" without rolling the 'r'. :)

jp

[parsonsj]

Mustang pickup truck: there's a good idea that isn't. Yuck. :eek:

[Kenova]

Mustang pickup truck: there's a good idea that isn't. Yuck. :eek:
Especially without a functioning tailgate.

Ken

[compos mentis]

For me, it's impossible to say "Corinthian" without rolling the 'r'. :)

jp

Herb Tarlek coveted 'fine Corinthian leather'

The man had taste! :1st:

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/10/herbtarlek-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/10/phpo4GBJKAM-1.jpg

[6'9"Witha69]

I hear all the suggestions about teenage vehicles and I've been through all the arguments myself. Newer cars are safer, for sure. You want your kid to be kind of cool in high school (self esteem), but not too cool that they turn into nightmares. I'd also like to nurture his budding car interests, for a purely selfish reason: I'd like to work on stuff with him. A father and son thing, and something I didn't have. So that's a strong consideration.

I've always thought the ideal teenage vehicle is a smaller pickup truck. They are inexpensive, under-powered, simple and easy to fix, a dent or two adds character, they sit high, they are safer with their perimeter frame, semi-cool, have no backseat (so gangs of 5 boys don't occur), and one can customize them a bit.

But my Kyle is a Mustang freak. I'm torn, and unsure what to do. I think an older 6 cyl auto Mustang might be safe enough, and would certainly put us in project heaven, so to speak.

I've still got time: he's just turned 13.

jp
Something to consider, there are also still a lot of "C" code (289 cid, 2bbl carb) mustangs out there. There are only ~25 hp more than the 230 I6 (if thyat, really), and as he gets experience, maturity and more of your trust under his belt it can be modded much eqasier. here is where my Mustang knowledge is failing me, I know that 64.5-66 used 4 lugs hubs and axles on the 6 cyl, as opposed to 5 lug for 8 cyl models. I believe it carried into the 67-68 body style as well. So IIRC, you would want an 8 cyl "C" code base car. From there it is a lot less investment to upgrade over time.

[Neil B]

I've always thought the ideal teenage vehicle is a smaller pickup truck. They are inexpensive, under-powered, simple and easy to fix, a dent or two adds character, they sit high, they are safer with their perimeter frame, semi-cool, have no backseat (so gangs of 5 boys don't occur), and one can customize them a bit.

But my Kyle is a Mustang freak. I'm torn, and unsure what to do. I think an older 6 cyl auto Mustang might be safe enough, and would certainly put us in project heaven, so to speak.


jp

How about a small inexpensive pickup truck for school, basic transportation, and parts running and then the Mustang as a father-son project that will 'someday' be his?

[Young Gun]

did ford ever build a 4 banger? throw one of those in there! and make him earn the other 4!

[cheapthrillz]

JP, it's hard to beat a little 4 or 6 cyl ranger for size, mileage, reliability, and usefulness. They're not too cheesy (better than my first: 88 Park Ave) and it won't kill the budget on your Mustang. I'd keep my eye out for a good '69 Fastback roller and let him do as much of the work as he can. It's the only way for him to learn....

[6'9"Witha69]

Also, If you get a '69, Ford glued the window regulators in. After many years and door slams they have weakened and break out. That is an area to check when looking.

[icemanrd19]

i know this is a very old thread but what is the color of this car? paint code?

[parsonsj]

Sorry, that information is long gone. When we changed the hood on the car, the paint codes didn't match and we had to improvise.

BTW, the car enjoys some cool company these days:

http://www.moorespeed.com

[icemanrd19]

sorta wondering how close that would be to the new mustang blue that they have out

[parsonsj]

II Much is close to that, but slightly darker and with more green in it. But I dig that Grabber Blue!