prodigy firebird convertible at barrett jackson

[wicked68]

I noticed lot 702 at barrett jackson is prodigy's

I saw this car at PRI - very nice - I estimated about 150-200 k in this car.

Why is the owner selling it at barrett jackson in this economy? its an awesome car but from what I have seen recently pro touring cars are not getting the original build costs back - maybe this one will?? thoughts????

my guess would be around 90-120K at bid form a real deal third party.

[formula]

wait which car--emptynest?

[wicked68]

wait which car--emptynest?

Its the white one with blue stripes. aluminum pontiac motor in it.

[68Formula]

If there's 3000 hours of work as claimed, (and I don't doubt that number) there's more than 200k into that build. That doesn't even cover the labor, let alone the purchase of the pre-build car and the parts.

[Vegas69]

Holy shiat.....you got some stones my boy. I've got to go watch this!

[wicked68]

Holy shiat.....you got some stones my boy. I've got to go watch this!

I will be there. we should grab a drink.

does anyone konw why the owner is selling it at this time? seems a horrible time to roll it.

[cheapthrillz]

Is this car still Lisa's? Wonder why they're taking it to BJ?

I need to buy this one just so I can steal the hidden wiper motor assembly off of it............. FRANK......

[Vegas69]

I will be there. we should grab a drink.

does anyone konw why the owner is selling it at this time? seems a horrible time to roll it.

I'm sure he'll chime in soon. Sound good man. Give me a heads up a few days before you head up.

[wicked68]

I'm sure he'll chime in soon. Sound good man. Give me a heads up a few days before you head up.
I get in the evening of the 7th and leave the 11th

pick a night :D

[MarkM66]

"II Much" will be there too. 409.1

If I was going to sell, I wouldn't hesitate to take something there. It's still where the money goes IMO.

Good luck guys.

[ProdigyCustoms]

Holy shiat.....you got some stones my boy. I've got to go watch this!


I was going to do a announcment.


So I have thought long and hard and Lisa and I decided to send Project EmptyNest to Barret Jackson Vegas. Am I nervous.............. Hell yeah! Am I excited..Hell Yeah! So the questions are Why? Why sell it? Why Barrett Jackson? Why Vegas instead of Scottsdale?

Lets talk about why sell it? A better question may be Why Keep it?

This was Lisa's (and mine) Dream car, but keep in mind I have 100 dream cars in my head! We had the idea for this car in our heads and knew the car would be beautiful and a crowd pleaser. And for 2 years now it knock the socks off everyone that sees it everywhere we go with it. It is 100% my fault, but I kinda over built it in many ways.

Long story short, we are done with it. It has done everything it needs to do and simply to pretty to beat on. We ran it back through the shop, completly painted it again (de chiped it), detailed it out and it is SEMA ready again.

Why sell now?

1 I build cars, I need to build a new car next year. Actually I will build 2 cars, one 69 Trans Am convertible for Lisa, black and gold this time with a 500HP LS motor, not nearly as off the hook show car. And another killer to be announced.

2 I cannot house anymore cars, between Michael, Lisa and I, we have 9 Hot Rods. 9 is past my limit by 2. We sold 2 others already to get down to 9.

3 Simply too much car for Lisa to enjoy (RE: Too much motor) We are building her another one, this time with a LS motor she can handle. And the bottom won't be pearl white!

4 Did I mention the bottom is pearl white! The car is simply to pretty to beat up.

Why now in a down economy?

1 The stock market is back to almost 10,000.

2 Things have come back in the economy a bit, will it stick? I don't know. Personally I think this is as good as it is going to get in the near future. I see nothing that makes me think things will get way better or the car go up in value in the next year or two.

3 Holding on to them does not make them any more valuable as they grow older. I should have sold it a year ago, but I was not done yet.

4 I got a smoking Prime Time Feature Car number, 7:30 Saturday night. I figure if Barrett is willing to burn a Prime Time number, they must feel it will be a star?

4 I feel whatever it brings, $50K or $250K, it is going to get fully appraised and bring the maximum amount of money, regardless of what that number is.

3000 hours is accurate, but also understand I knew it would never be worth it's replacment value before I started the project. This is my buisness, these are marketing tools as well as toys, and Lisa wants a car she can drive, and she wants a boat too, LOL! Seriously!

So were going to hold our breath and hope for the best. I will probably be drunk and loaded with Zanaz by the time it crosses the block, LOL!

I just wish we could do it tomorrow, the wait is the hardest part!

[ProdigyCustoms]

"II Much" will be there too. 409.1

If I was going to sell, I wouldn't hesitate to take something there. It's still where the money goes IMO.

Good luck guys.

Yup, that was a joint decision. John and I spent hours discussing this and made the decision to jump in the water together. Same thing for John. He is ready for something new. And he got a smoking Friday night number.

We made some changes to II Much to make it more mainstream, I suppose John will post some pics soon.

[Vegas69]

I agree 100%. You'll end up getting what the car is worth today and possibly more than the years to come. That car has also made you alot of money and was one hell of a marketing tool. It was part of why I came to you. Look forward to the celebration that night! The beers may have to be on me, but none the less. LOL

[ProdigyCustoms]

If there's 3000 hours of work as claimed, (and I don't doubt that number) there's more than 200k into that build. That doesn't even cover the labor, let alone the purchase of the pre-build car and the parts.

Your exacly correct. Just the motor would be almost $40K to duplicate!!! $5000 block, $5000 bare heads, $2500 crank, $1000 rods, $1800 Jessel Shaft Rockers, $7000 in the Hogans intake and TB set up, The custom sleeves for the block were $1400!

Whatever though, it did what it needed to do.

Next!

[jy211]

A boat? What to drive around on Boclaire? LOL

[parsonsj]

I've been having dreams of all kinds of mishaps about this. My stress level is way up, but.. as Frank said: it's time for me to move on.

I built my dream car. Building it was way more fun than owning it.

Yes, I tweaked II Much to be more mainstream, and I'll post up some pics soon. Frank and his boys have one more little job to do... and then it will be photo-ready.

jp

[tom_a]

I hope the best for both of you as these are two killer cars! As they say nothing ventured, nothing gained.....kudos to you guys for doing a no reserve auction.

[vp23271]

Best of luck to both Frank and John on the sale of those beautiful cars!

I can't wait to see what you 2 are going to build next!

[Tony_SS]

I guess there isn't an option for a reserve when you auction off at BJ?

[LateNight72]

I guess there isn't an option for a reserve when you auction off at BJ?
Not any more..

[wicked68]

I guess there isn't an option for a reserve when you auction off at BJ?

you have to bid against the bidders and be prepared if you dont like the sale price to bid it up and basically pay the commission on the final price as your "reserve fee"

[parsonsj]

You really can't bid on your own car. You might get a trusted friend to anonymously bid and buy your car and then you pay them back, etc., but if B-J found out, you probably wouldn't be allowed to sell through them again.

jp

[buickfunnycar.com]

I hope the best for both of you as these are two killer cars! As they say nothing ventured, nothing gained.....kudos to you guys for doing a no reserve auction.

+2,best of luck to you both,I'll be watching and cheering you guys on!:smoke:

[mach1stang]

she wants a boat too, LOL! Seriously!



I got a boat with Lisa's name all over it!


Good luck with the sell, I hope you and John hit the lotto there so you guys can grace with some sick builds!!!

[ProdigyCustoms]

I got a boat with Lisa's name all over it!


Good luck with the sell, I hope you and John hit the lotto there so you guys can grace with some sick builds!!!

And you need some work done don't you....Hum!

[mach1stang]

Now that you mention it....




No were done with our boating adventure and need some project funding.

[team 68 chevelle]

Good luck frank!!!!

[wicked68]

You really can't bid on your own car. You might get a trusted friend to anonymously bid and buy your car and then you pay them back, etc., but if B-J found out, you probably wouldn't be allowed to sell through them again.

jp

ah - I have never been but I have heard that is pretty common. who knows - its heresay - so I dont know if that is fact or not.

I just know generally if it can happen it will - its certainly unethical.

[Fesler built]

Frank the best of luck to you guys, BJ is a great thing and if the right guys are there and you do enough advertising on it you can do very well. I would pull out an add in the Dupont telling people that the car will be there so if they are interested to go bid on it.

You cannot buy your own car back, you have to sign up give all your bank info and get a bidders pass, selling and buying passers are different. You can have a friend bid it up but they will have to be approved for the amount it hits to even bid. We have been doing the Scottsdale show for many years.

We see it all and they watch everything very close. They will not allow a buy back.

But its a super car with lots of goodies and Frank now is the time to promote promote promote the car, advertise it everywhere you can. Even EBAY to get people to come see it. The more people you have the more it will bid up. Just remember what happen to the Johnson Cuda he could have sold it for way more then what it did on auction so if you get offers that are very good keep them in mind. We see people hold out from someone that will pay top dollar and then that same guy buys it for half in the auction. it happens every year.

The more you get the better for our industry so as I said the best of luck to you guys. We will keep our fingers crossed.

[oestek]

Nice post, Chris! Good luck Frank! We'll all be biting our nails and cheering you on!

[Van B]

Good luck John and Frank. I'll be rooting for you.

[Steve1968LS2]

I've been having dreams of all kinds of mishaps about this. My stress level is way up, but.. as Frank said: it's time for me to move on.

I built my dream car. Building it was way more fun than owning it.

Yes, I tweaked II Much to be more mainstream, and I'll post up some pics soon. Frank and his boys have one more little job to do... and then it will be photo-ready.

jp

Is your car Saturday night as well?.. maybe I will drive out.

[a73formula]

This is whats great about the people on this site. You got felser rooting for prodigy, its great that there are still people like this in here. Thats why people come the your shops. Love it.

[LateNight72]

is your car saturday night as well?.. Maybe i will drive out.

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yup, that was a joint decision. John and i spent hours discussing this and made the decision to jump in the water together. Same thing for john. he is ready for something new. And he got a smoking friday night number.

we made some changes to ii much to make it more mainstream, i suppose john will post some pics soon.

[T_Raven]

Your exacly correct. Just the motor would be almost $40K to duplicate!!! $5000 block, $5000 bare heads, $2500 crank, $1000 rods, $1800 Jessel Shaft Rockers, $7000 in the Hogans intake and TB set up, The custom sleeves for the block were $1400!

Whatever though, it did what it needed to do.

Next!

Holy crap!!!!! And I thought the $20k I wish I could spend on an aluminum Pontiac engine was alot!!!

[CliffS]

Wow that's hot news. Good luck to you guys! I might be biased to the Bird but I have seen this car in person when we visited Frank last year; Badass.. car!! Hope they find a good new home...

[OLDFLM]

Frank,
Please tell me you're going to do an early (70-73) 2nd Gen F-body next!!!!
V/R,

[Steve1968LS2]

Why Vegas over Scottsdale? I would think there's more people and more $$$$ at the Arizona event in January.

[parsonsj]

It's a crapshoot (Vegas pun intended). The economy has recovered to some extent, especially with the stock market. Gas is relatively cheap. Housing markets are improving.

What's to say that we will continue to have good economic news?

Based on hotel fill rates, and information coming through B-J's dealers, the bidder list at Vegas is very very healthy, and last year's auction did well even in the midst of enormous upheaval in the economy.

So, off we go. Will prices be better in Scottsdale? I don't know, and I don't think anybody does.

jp

[ProdigyCustoms]

Why Vegas over Scottsdale? I would think there's more people and more $$$$ at the Arizona event in January.

I posted earlier

1 The stock market is back to almost 10,000.

2 Things have come back in the economy a bit, will it stick? I don't know. Personally I think this is as good as it is going to get in the near future. I see nothing that makes me think things will get way better or the car go up in value in the next year or two.

3 Holding on to them does not make them any more valuable as they grow older. I should have sold it a year ago, but I was not done yet.

4 I got a smoking Prime Time Feature Car number, 7:30 Saturday night. I figure if Barrett is willing to burn a Prime Time number, they must feel it will be a star?

Additionaly, at Scottsdale I may not get the smoking time slot. Also, I could be buired in a sea of killer cars where at Vegas there are nice cars, we are stars!

Also, this thing has Vegas wrote all over it. Flamboyant as it can be. And did I mention chicks LOVE this thing.

Give me 2 sugar daddies with sugar babies, and its off! maybe a casino will buy it!

[trapin]

Wow, exciting. I'll be DVRing this auction. Does anyone know if the Vegas auction is televised?

Best of luck to both of you. And John, post up some pics, lets see what you've done to her.

[vp23271]

Also, this thing has Vegas wrote all over it. Flamboyant as it can be. And did I mention chicks LOVE this thing.

Give me 2 sugar daddies with sugar babies, and its off! maybe a casino will buy it!

I like your thinking Frank!

[Motown 454]

Its a beautiful car and it perfect for a Pontiac lover after seeing all the Camaros. Godd luck Frank, to both of you.

[ProdigyCustoms]

Does anyone know if the Vegas auction is televised?
.

Oh yeah, we will be on TV. I am just trying to figure out what to wear. Ya know, like the guy in the yellow jackets, different color for each car!

I need like a HUGE ProdigyCustoms.com logo on my back, or across Lisa's chest!

[ProdigyCustoms]

Frank the best of luck to you guys, BJ is a great thing and if the right guys are there and you do enough advertising on it you can do very well. I would pull out an add in the Dupont telling people that the car will be there so if they are interested to go bid on it.

But its a super car with lots of goodies and Frank now is the time to promote promote promote the car, advertise it everywhere you can. Even EBAY to get people to come see it. The more people you have the more it will bid up. Just remember what happen to the Johnson Cuda he could have sold it for way more then what it did on auction so if you get offers that are very good keep them in mind. We see people hold out from someone that will pay top dollar and then that same guy buys it for half in the auction. it happens every year.

The more you get the better for our industry so as I said the best of luck to you guys. We will keep our fingers crossed.

Thanks a lot Chris, I will be doing a million dollar E bay auction, to late for Dupont. I was holding out for number placment before making my final commitment and we just could not get the number in time for Dupont.

I am posting it on all the forums I can think of. We will be bringing mirrors and a big digital picture frame for the power point show.

[Vegas69]

You may want to contact some of the high end car dealers around here as well. That may be a good place to connect with sugar poppa.

[Gordz32]

Oh yeah, we will be on TV. I am just trying to figure out what to wear. Ya know, like the guy in the yellow jackets, different color for each car!

I need like a HUGE ProdigyCustoms.com logo on my back, or across Lisa's chest!

Lisa's chest certainly gets more attention than your back.. just saying...

This is Rupp using Chris's account.. forgot about that.. lol

[Samckitt]

Lisa's chest certainly gets more attention than your back.. just saying...

This is Rupp using Chris's account.. forgot about that.. lol

:lol:

[camaro2nv]

Cant wait to see this one.

[dadto2jays]

cant wait to see what kind of $$$$ they both do!!!!!

Good luck,,,,,

[tones2SS]

Good luck to John and Frank on your cars.
I hope the people watching them can truly appreciate the time and money put into these beautiful cars. Best of luck!

[E.rodz]

if you sell on sat night you are going to be golden.all the high rollers go just for the high dollar cars on fri and sat night.if you are not up on fri or sat be prepared to have your azz handed to you. sold my truck at scottsdale in 2006 was told sun was still prime time. i was told that it would go on the block between 12:00 and 1:00 but closer to 1:00 because they allways run late so this is what I relayed to everyone that was intrested.The truck went up on stage at about 11:30 it was snowing yes snowing there was hardly anyone there and you could tell they just wanted to go home. the truck was on the stage for almost a minute and the gaval dropped and it was done . I stood there with my jaw hanging on the ground saying what happened.somthing they also keep as a secret is you can buy your own car back as a last escape but you are now the buyer and the seller so you have to pay both fees plus az. state sales tax 8%seller+10%to the buyer+7.5% sales tax= bend over and take it dry.don't want to scare you guys just want to help your decision.if you guys are on fri or sat you should be good if not pull the plug now.I would do it again if i was to be on the block fri or sat though. I wish the best for the both of you you both have some awsome cars keep up the great work and keep the hot rod dream alive.

[LateNight72]

Frank, you're 5-10 spots ahead of the cars that Barrett-Jackson has on their commercials for the auction on Speed. Talk about a prime-time slot!!

[Van B]

somthing they also keep as a secret is you can buy your own car back as a last escape but you are now the buyer and the seller so you have to pay both fees plus az. state sales tax 8%seller+10%to the buyer+7.5% sales tax= bend over and take it dry.

This way they can still say they have 100% sale rate. I've said it before and everyone that drinks the B-J kool aid denys it, but I will bet my left nut that there are a few cars that "sell" but don't change owners when it is over.

You guys have bigger ones swinging down there than I do...

Again, I wish you both the best of luck.

[ProdigyCustoms]

Frank, you're 5-10 spots ahead of the cars that Barrett-Jackson has on their commercials for the auction on Speed. Talk about a prime-time slot!!

That was the decision maker.

[Neil B]

Good luck Frank! Definitely one of my favorite early Firebirds.

[compos mentis]

1 I build cars, I need to build a new car next year. Actually I will build 2 cars, one 69 Trans Am convertible for Lisa, black and gold this time with a 500HP LS motor, not nearly as off the hook show car. And another killer to be announced.


Frank, before you make the announcement on car #2, how about a hint for the live studio audience? :)

[rob07002]

I will probably be drunk and loaded with Zanaz by the time it crosses the block, LOL!

To show solidarity, so will I! Get em Frank, Lisa, and John!

[BonzoHansen]

To show solidarity, so will I! Get em Frank, Lisa, and John!

:lol:

[rob07002]

Oh yeah, we will be on TV. I am just trying to figure out what to wear. Ya know, like the guy in the yellow jackets, different color for each car!

I need like a HUGE ProdigyCustoms.com logo on my back, or across Lisa's chest!

Should have Lisa drive it on the block.

Frank, you could always wear a bright red Ferrari hat, no... wait... someone already beat you to it.

Frank, since it's Vegas, would be hilarious if the TV panned to you surrounded by a bunch of strippers and/or showgirls with a Prodigy pimp fur coat. Assuming Lisa wouldn't kick yur a$$, LOL!

[ProdigyCustoms]

Should have Lisa drive it on the block.

Frank, you could always wear a bright red Ferrari hat, no... wait... someone already beat you to it.

Frank, since it's Vegas, would be hilarious if the TV panned to you surrounded by a bunch of strippers and/or showgirls with a Prodigy pimp fur coat. Assuming Lisa wouldn't kick yur a$$, LOL!

Great minds think alike. I was thinking a big blue pimp hat (big pimpin). Then I have Craig stop the auction and offer to throw the hat in! LOL!

Lisa should drive it on stage but is way to scared. She will ride up with me though. She already has a smoking outfit to match the car.

[Rybar]

Good luck Frank, what date is this supposed to air? I'd like to set my PVR.

[Topless69]

x2. When is it airing..?? And what channel.? I only see Mecum(spelling) on the toob latley. PLEASE let us know I would love to see this....Good luck guys and Gal.

[buickfunnycar.com]

I hope they don't get pre-empted by commercials and we actually get to see them cross the block...best of luck to both of you.:1st:

[ProdigyCustoms]

Saturday October 10th, Prime Time, about 7:30 on Speed Channel

[wblanton]

Couldnt believe it when you told me at RTTH, I will be watching. Hope it does real well for you and Lisa.

[69BRRRD]

Frank I'll be watching for sure, that car is an icon for this sport and will no doubt generate crowd excitement which is what the BJ people want to have at their events. It should show well on TV too, I just wish Comcast here in Atl carried SpeedHD!
Good luck and even if you don't score big with it the publicity alone will be great for your future business! Keep'em coming!

[steve g]

Frank,

I'll be watching with excitement. And I'll be anxiously awaiting the start of the build on the new black & gold 69 TA. I'll probably be a little more excited to see it come together than empty nest. I think you might be in need of another top frame though. LOL.

[oestek]

Frank, I hope you don't mind, but I thought it would be fun to do a "guess the high bid" contest using Emptynest as the car this time. (We do these from time to time on random eBay or high-profile cars). The person who guesses closest to the actual high bid at the auction gets some ARP and V8TV shwag. Thought it would help promote the car a little more and give the rest of us that can't afford the car a way to play along. And no, there's nothing in it for us, we're not connected to Frank and Prodigy beyond friendship.

Anyway, anyone wishing to take a guess at the high bid can do it here...

http://tinyurl.com/yda6ubp

[Rick D]

$112,999.99 and Frank I hope it goes for alot more. Opp's didn't see the link I will guess there to.

[ProdigyCustoms]

Kevin. I do not mind at all. I think it is fun. In the end none of us really know what it is worth. But we will find out, LOL!

I would like to have a link to the website on your contest, there are more pictures and details there so those who do not know the car can make better judgement

http://prodigycustoms.com/

Thanks for the cool idea and choosing EmptyNest.

[The Rook]

Good Luck Frank. If I hit the lotto or find a really big suitcase of money in the next week I will be in Vegas and make you and I both very happy!!! Absolutely Beautiful Car!!!

[SUNK69]

It looks like they are only showing re-runs of BJ on the speed channel in my area tonight, and nothing at all tomorrow, that sucks.

[Topless69]

Thanks Frank I will set my DVR now incase I forget. You guys are going to wear your comp. shirts I hope or something so we might get a glimps of you.....Good luck.

[wicked68]

I hope it goes for 239K

That will mean there is a market for highly custom cars that is alive and well.

[oestek]

Kevin. I do not mind at all. I think it is fun. In the end none of us really know what it is worth. But we will find out, LOL!

I would like to have a link to the website on your contest, there are more pictures and details there so those who do not know the car can make better judgement

http://prodigycustoms.com/

Thanks for the cool idea and choosing EmptyNest.

No problem, Frank. I posted the link.

[Damon777]

It looks like they are only showing re-runs of BJ on the speed channel in my area tonight, and nothing at all tomorrow, that sucks.

It's on next week, so you're still OK. :)

[69BRRRD]

Yep, according to Speed Channel listings it looks like it starts Thursday Oct 8th at 6PM and the following Friday and Saturday nights at the same time. Empty Nest should be Saturday night in the second hour so be watching for sure that night. :twothumbs

[dadto2jays]

cant wait to see what it sells for.....I am thinking it will sell for 137,500 not saying what uis worth just what I think it will do. I will say it again I dont have the guts to do a no-reserve auction....good luck!!!!! bu then again the advertising that you are going to get is priceless....

[SUNK69]

It's on next week, so you're still OK. :)
Whew, that's a relief!

[HRBS]

Frank, your balls just grew 10 times larger IMO... LOL !
Good luck my friend !
See you at SEMA.

[69rs]

Good luck Frank and Lisa! And JP, don't forget to fill up first!
Two awesome cars, hate to see 'em go, but I bet even better ones will take their place!

[formula]

Just talked to Frank a while ago, they just finished wearing themselves to the bone getting my car sorted--they're on the road right now, 8 hours up, drop my car off, 8 hours back, time for a nap, and on the plane to vegas...At least he's finding ways to keep himself busy, I suppose!!

[lawbreaker2]

I love that car, so I'm thinking it will go for $147,000 why cuz that is the # that jumped into my head.:worship:

[oestek]

We've seen a pretty big range of guesses on our little "guess the high bid" contest. There's still time to wager a guess as to what Emptynest will bring... http://tinyurl.com/yda6ubp

[WEAVER]

I hope it kicks butt...Good luck Frank an Lisa

[Motown 454]

Good luck Frank. I hope you need a Brinks truck to bring home the money.. I'll be watching.

[SUNK69]

Good luck tonight, hope it goes thru the roof!

[buickfunnycar.com]

Hope Speed stays with the show and we get to see it...Best of luck Frank!

[camaro2nv]

Ill be watching online just in case that happens.

[buickfunnycar.com]

Ill be watching online just in case that happens.

Thanks though I think we'll be good,we're on lot #682 now and Frank is 702...should be fine.

[1badchevelle]

Frank you need to get that sugar mama in the first row. She bought 29 car so far...

[Samckitt]

$85,000? I am disappointed that is all it went for. I wonder if blonde there with the buyer will be driving it. If so, how long before it is wrecked.

[68Formula]

Only $85k?! Who's the sob that stole that car?

[71firebird400]

85K!?!?!??! WOW! Just watched it myself, that is unbelievable.

[Steve Firebird]

85K way too low for that car.

[BIGX69]

it should have done as good as that black69 camaro...

[buickfunnycar.com]

oh man,wifey & I looked at each other when it stalled at $80k and said oh no...
sounds like they worked it as best they could.

[protour73]

OMG!!!!...........Frank and Lisa, I feel terrible for you!!!!

Those folks stole that beautiful car!!!!

[compos mentis]

Hey JP, I like your new ride!

LOL

[Nine Ball]

Fewer Firebird fanatics than Camaro fanatics. Even Frank knows that. We all know it was underpriced, but it takes two or more bidders to start a war.

[cmanf]

That was awful.
The guy that used to or maybe still worked for Hotrod didnt exactly help much couldnt believe the way he was picking apart proT cars.
That was worse than any football game I was pulling for getting beat.

[formula]

still....absolute steal at 85k. Somebody got the steal of the year.

Frank knew the risks, he really was prepared for whatever the outcome was--that car was still great advertising, It served its purpose--and I know they have new, great things on the way. I'm sure he's gonna be alright.

That being said, I'll be pouring one out for my homies at Prodigy Customs tonight...We still love ya, and we know what it was really worth!

[BonzoHansen]

I'll never get the $400,000+ for a Shelby that won't ever get driven. Argh

[vintageracer]

The blonde sure was happy with the purchase of HER new Firebird!

[buickfunnycar.com]

The blonde sure was happy with the purchase of HER new Firebird!

bet the carpet don't match the drapes...

[71firebird400]

She'll be driving a nicer PT car than 99% of the guys on this forum! Sad. Probably let it sit outside in the rain, and park by feel at the local 711. Ouch.

[cmanf]

If it survives the new owner we will see this car for sell again soon is my guess. The new will fade in a week or 2 and the Bentley will better match the purse.

[tellyv]

no reserve sucks!!!!! no way I'd take a chance like that good pr or not.

[SatisTraction]

i wish the car would have brought more but why are all you you slammin the new owner? that may be the next mary pozzi. it IS NOT her fault that the car sold for $85000, without her it may have went for $50,000 or less.

[71firebird400]

You guys see that only ONE tail light was working!? WTF? Maybe people were sketched out by that. Regardless, I'm not sure the market supports these uber-high dollar builds. The only muscle cars worth money are the rare, desireable ones.

[nowukno]

How much does Frank actually pocket though?

[syclonetommy]

How much does Frank actually pocket though?

I thinks 76k??

[nowukno]

76K huh,I know theres risk,but it just doesnt seem fair to me.

[Steve1968LS2]

76K huh,I know theres risk,but it just doesnt seem fair to me.

Life isn't fair..

[tellyv]

I'm sure he had to pay for the spot also? Pretty good time slot I'm sure it was'nt cheap at least thats how mecum works but their not a no reserve auction.

[syclonetommy]

76K huh,I know theres risk,but it just doesnt seem fair to me.

Thats the risk of BJ " No reserve"

[nowukno]

true and true!!!

[syclonetommy]

I'm sure he had to pay for the spot also? Pretty good time slot I'm sure it was'nt cheap at least thats how mecum works but their not a no reserve auction.

Your right, I'm sure that spot was a good $$ + transport and hotel.

[67rsconvert]

They definitely need to bring in an announcer who is more in touch with Pro-touring and the current tastes of the car buying public. The current crew is mystified every year when nice pro-touring cars bring more than stock classics. I can't believe he actually called a protouring car a "fullsize hot wheels" in a very derogatory tone today. Not to mention the dead air space on the other protouring cars where they haven't discussed or emphasized them in any way. I hope Craig Jackson is willing to make some changes or owners will be hesitant to send their cars there. These guys are stuck in the past too much, they need some fresh blood.

[BonzoHansen]

I just heard that, the lot 676 car where they screwed it up. Video at 11.

Edit: https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/showthread.php?p=585077#post585077

[ProdigyCustoms]

Hey guys. just so everyone knows. The day i started that car I knew it was a Firebird and would have half the value of a Camaro. But we wanted to build it because we knew it would be beutiful, and that it was.

So when John and I decided to come here we set kill ourselves numbers, OK numbers, and really happy numbers. I was prepared to buy it back at $50k, At $60 would not be happpy, but would not kill myself. And thought it would do $80k to $100. My DREAM number was only $125K. I knew being a pontiac it would not do the big numbers some thought, but i sure as hell could not say that and kill my own auction before the sale.

Sure I would be happier with more money, but i am good. Like I said, it is Firebird, not a Camaro. it served its purpose, and i am completely OK. At that money is more then enough to build another car.

Were heading out to celibrate now.

[GRNOVA]

Nicely done Frank!

[Motown 454]

Its a beautiful car and someone is going to enjoy it.

[BonzoHansen]

Hey guys. just so everyone knows. The day i started that car I knew it was a Firebird and would have half the value of a Camaro. But we wanted to build it because we knew it would be beutiful, and that it was.

So when John and I decided to come here we set kill ourselves numbers, OK numbers, and really happy numbers. I was prepared to buy it back at $50k, At $60 would not be happpy, but would not kill myself. And thought it would do $80k to $100. My DREAM number was only $125K. I knew being a pontiac it would not do the big numbers some thought, but i sure as hell could not say that and kill my own auction before the sale.

Sure I would be happier with more money, but i am good. Like I said, it is Firebird, not a Camaro. it served its purpose, and i am completely OK. At that money is more then enough to build another car.

Were heading out to celibrate now.

Not that I'm saying it is an equal build, but using lot 676 (1st gen Pro-Touring Camaro) as an example, it went $103,000. $85,000 is a lot better than half of that.

Enjoy the night sir!

[dadto2jays]

I was kind of surprised also for what it sold for....but at the end of the day you win some and you lose some......

[wblanton]

now I dont have to feel sick for you.. Have a great time in Vegas, tell Lisa (Shanna said) there is a Louis Vuitton store in the Wynn. I would like for you to feel some of my pain LOL...

[SLAMDIMPALA]

Congrats Frank and Lisa. I cant wait to see the next one that you guys build. When are you going to start on it?

[dropit69]

man just got home and watched it on dvr..was hoping for alot more for ya Frank and Lisa ..but as long as you arent that upset over it you can always build another killer car..

[Samckitt]

Congrats Frank. Don't celebrate too much.

[Van B]

Hats off to you Frank. You are a class act. I only saw it on video, but your car was 3 times the car the blue Camaro 676 looked to be. After John's car went through the roof I had high hopes for yours.

Just write off a little more for advertising value...:smoke:

[6'9"Witha69]

Frank, I love your attitude. I was pulling for ya, so was the auctioneer it sounded. He drew that out as long as possible before dropping the hammer. Congrats and can't wait to see how you put the money to use!

[rob07002]

Frank & Lisa, all I can say is that you built a beautiful car, and one of, if not the badest, Firebirds on the planet. I know I probably wouldn't be as accepting of the outcome, but hats off to you sir, you are a class act. Onward and upward, and I applaud yor attitude. I can't wait to see your next builds.

[CliffS]

Congrats Lisa & Frank! Up to the next awesome build.

Is the auction on youtube already?

[CliffS]

found it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBq-wtW1cqE

[MrQuick]

Prodigy had to move a few cars and they did. Probably would have like more but they did know the risk of no reserve auctioning. I know one thing is I do not have the nads to do it. I'd have a heart attack for sure.

Congrats to Frank and look forward to future builds!!!

vince

[69BRRRD]

Hey guys. just so everyone knows. The day i started that car I knew it was a Firebird and would have half the value of a Camaro. But we wanted to build it because we knew it would be beutiful, and that it was.

...And as everyone here knows they are almost identical under the skin, can be prepared using the same parts and can hold their own in a crowd of Camaros. You can pick up a rust free Firebird for a song and for a Camaro in the same condition you'll have to dance too. They are the perfect size for most home project garages and respond very well to suspension mods. Frank's car is an inspiration to people looking for a good starting point for a project and are frustrated at trying to find an affordable Camaro base to start with. Just look at Empty Nest to realize what you can do with enough time and imagination...

[Ron S]

Loved the car Frank,no matter how you look at it, 85k is still crazy money for a Firebird. And you got the joy of building, running, and show casing the car for Prodigy. In the big picture you have to deside if it was an all around good experience,(I'd have to think it was) I'm sure you'll be back with something even cooler yet. Ron

[XLexusTech]

Not to mention the fact that he was able to build this car with his Wife and son. Priceless to me and him I am sure.

[Rick D]

Nice to see you are ok with what it sold for. As you said you new risk and you didn't have to buy back your own car. I have a question, did you talk to the new owner about the car show them all the really cool stuff you did to it? Just so they know it's NOT a restomod with nice wheels and paint. How'ed you do at the tables??

[compos mentis]

Not to mention the fact that he was able to build this car with his Wife and son. Priceless to me and him I am sure.

Exactly.

Like Frank said it was too much car for Lisa. So as happy as she must have been to see Empty Nest created, it sounds like she's looking forward to the next one, and it will be designed to really be 'her car' this time. :)

[Steve68]

Great Job Frank, see you when you get home,

[YancyJohns]

One thing about Frank, he always keeps his head up. Congrats! Your 1st class in my book! I can't wait to see the next project! We'll see you at SEMA.

[ProdigyCustoms]

Nice to see you are ok with what it sold for. As you said you new risk and you didn't have to buy back your own car. I have a question, did you talk to the new owner about the car show them all the really cool stuff you did to it? Just so they know it's NOT a restomod with nice wheels and paint. How'ed you do at the tables??

I went and waited around the car for a bit. I left business card with call me on them, let them know I am in town for a discussion.

On the tables, were doing just fine. Now if i can just stay away I can leave up, LOL!

[ProdigyCustoms]

Rumor on the street is even at only $85K it is a world record for a non original Firebird. So that is pretty cool!

[Steve1968LS2]

Rumor on the street is even at only $85K it is a world record for a non original Firebird. So that is pretty cool!

I have a hard time hearing the words "only" and "$85k" in the same sentence.. lol

[T_Raven]

You can pick up a rust free Firebird for a song and for a Camaro in the same condition you'll have to dance too.

I'm VERY grateful for this fact personally lol. I'm glad I don't see many Firebirds getting built. Then mine would be less special. And if people want to pay more for an almost identical car that in my opinion has less personality they can go right ahead. More Firebirds for me!!!

Too bad Empty Nest didn't go for more though, I can't wait to see Lisa's next 69

[TonyHuntimer]

Congrats Frank! It looks like the new owner has a burned out tail light already. :)

[JEFFTATE]

Rumor on the street is even at only $85K it is a world record for a non original Firebird. So that is pretty cool!


Congrats Frank !!

I wish it had sold for more , but at least you got 85k..

[buickfunnycar.com]

Sure wish you woulda got mad $$$ for it Frank.
Quite possible that car was too far over the top,even for Las Vegas...?

[spaghettio]

85k? you deserved much more for such a beautiful car. somone got a steal.

[ProdigyCustoms]

Congrats Frank! It looks like the new owner has a burned out tail light already. :)

LOL! We must have knocked the bulbs out with the trim panel hooking up the battery.

[mroth]

I read this post and had to check the car out ot Prodigy's website. Damn that is one beautiful car. It's a shame the economy sucks right now. Good Luck with the sale.

[buickfunnycar.com]

Good Luck with the sale...

Car sold Sat night for $85k.

[68Formula]

And to think I was only about $100k from affording my dream car, lol.