Protouring Calendars

[Bill Howell]

This thread is to gauge interest in a protouring calendar for next year. I know it has been mentioned before, but I am going to head up the charge this time, if there is actually enough interest to do it.
I don't have all the details, but it will be of member's cars, in action at some of the events. We are protouring, so I think action shots are more about who we are then static car show shots.
So,
1. If you want to be in this or future calendars, you need to participate in events.
2. If a calendar was offered, would you pay $25 for it? Remember, we will not be producing 10 zillion of them so it is doubtful we can offer one for $8.95 but I think we can get in the $25 range.

Please, post up in the next few days if you are interested, as we will need to get on the ball if we are going to do this for 2010.

[Steve1968LS2]

And the pictures won't suck... ;)

[James OLC]

Well if you say so then I would be in.

[zbugger]

I would buy one.

[MrQuick]

:naughty:I like this shot....maybe someone could photoshop the taxi out?

ok fine then. LOL

I'll take 2
vince

[zbugger]

:naughty:I like this shot....maybe someone could photoshop the taxi out?
Mind getting that passenger out of there while you're at it?

[MrQuick]

oh come on...don't get jaded now. LOL

[monza]

Yes please!

[LowBuckX]

Id buy one as long as its limited to 2 Camaros. A good mix of makes and models.

[ProdigyCustoms]

I am in a for a few

[tmadden]

I'm in for a couple. Would make great gifts. hurry

[wolf28]

Id buy one as long as its limited to 2 Camaros. A good mix of makes and models.

I was gonna say the same thing. I would love one, but not if it is nothing but Camaros.

[hotrdblder]

i would be in for 3-4
jake

[John McIntire]

I'll take one!

[Steve1968LS2]

I was gonna say the same thing. I would love one, but not if it is nothing but Camaros.

The ratio should reflect the community..

Will see what we have to work with.. I have quite a library of various cars from the last few years.

[highschool70ss]

I'll take one or two.

[BayouSS]

I'll take one or two also.

[tones2SS]

I'd buy one!! If I had a job, I'd buy two. One for work, one for home!:cheers:

[Steve1968LS2]

My first action shot sort went:

2 first gen Camaros
1 second gen Camaro
3 Mustangs of various years
1 el camino
1 nova
2 corvette
1 chevelle
2 mopar

How is that for a mix?

[jilge71]

i will take one...mix it up with a body, f body, mustangs, mopar, could even have a small before pic down in the corner.

[Bill Howell]

Id buy one as long as its limited to 2 Camaros. A good mix of makes and models.

One of my major concerns. May be more than two, but won't all be first gen camaros, you can count on that.

One way to assure your car in the calendar is to build something different, if fact, pretty much anything different.

[highschool70ss]

More chevelles please, less mustangs.

[thedodgeboys]

dont forget the MOPARS :enguard:

[protouring70]

I would buy 1, For the shop.



Brent

[Magntik]

No Pontiacs??
I know we've got some killer 'Birds and a GTO or two that are more than worthy!

[Steve1968LS2]

No Pontiacs??
I know we've got some killer 'Birds and a GTO or two that are more than worthy!

If I can score a shot of one before we go to print.. then yea.

Hmm.. I should dig a little deeper, I think I have an autocross pic of Andrew's goat on file.

For next year (2011 calendar) we can specifically target cars. Right now we are just going by what's on my 1tb hard drive.

The main problem with a calendar is that even if you do 13 months, and have a cover image, you still only have 14 cars.

We will try and make it as diverse as we can.

[NvrDun71]

Sign me up for one

[1969CamaroRS]

I'd be in for a calendar. To increase the number of cars in teh calendar what about putting in some extra page, (back, center) or even doing a 15 month calendar? Probably won't add too much to the cost and could add a number of exta cars. Even the extra pages maybe could be divided into 4 pics a page or something.

Just throwing out some ideas.

[Mike Holleman]

This thread is to gauge interest in a protouring calendar for next year. I know it has been mentioned before, but I am going to head up the charge this time, if there is actually enough interest to do it.
I don't have all the details, but it will be of member's cars, in action at some of the events. We are protouring, so I think action shots are more about who we are then static car show shots.
So,
1. If you want to be in this or future calendars, you need to participate in events.
2. If a calendar was offered, would you pay $25 for it? Remember, we will not be producing 10 zillion of them so it is doubtful we can offer one for $8.95 but I think we can get in the $25 range.

Please, post up in the next few days if you are interested, as we will need to get on the ball if we are going to do this for 2010.

Sounds good but I too would prefer less than half done with Camaros. I love em, but they get way too much press. Action shots are good but build photos could also be good inspiration.
Mike

[Steve1968LS2]

Sounds good but I too would prefer less than half done with Camaros. I love em, but they get way too much press. Action shots are good but build photos could also be good inspiration.
Mike

I you look at what I posted then you would see that there's only three Camaros listed.

But, lets be honest.. I bet over 60% of this site has a Camaro.. but with only 14 images to work with we need to give plenty of love to the other brands. Still, we can't get in everyone or everything.

I say we stick with a theme.. action shots. After all, there are a bazzilion calendars with static car shots and that's NOT what we are about. Let's celebrate our cars actually being used.

I like build shots but I'm not sure I want to start at a half-done car for a month.

[CarlC]

I'll buy one.

[brownz]

put me down for one

[Young Gun]

like i said in the other thread, YES!

[OLDFLM]

I'm in for one too!

[wolf28]

Why not put a bunch of pictures up on a page and have people vote...2 through 13 get put in the calendar and the top 1 gets the cover or something....

[Rocco]

Is it possible to include a couple calendar shots of your cool "car in action" photos too ? ... Just a thought to jazz up a bit from the usual static pose photos.

Rocco Gioffre

[zbugger]

Is it possible to include a couple calendar shots of your cool "car in action" photos too ? ... Just a thought to jazz up a bit from the usual static pose photos.

Rocco Gioffre
So far it looks like it's going to be all action shots.

[showa]

I'm in for one....

[DLinson]

Sounds good to me. My votes:

2 first gen Camaros: Motivator and Bad Penny
1 second gen Camaro: Mary's red 2nd gen. (DSE test car already everywhere you look)
2 Mustangs of various years: ?
1 Firebird: Project Empty Nest
2 novas: John Parsons II Much and The 2nd gen Troy built for a member.
2 corvette: Craig Morrison's silver Vette and ?
1 chevelle: Air Ride's blue Chevelle
2 mopar: Mr. Vengence black Charger and ?

[Toadman]

I'm in for at least one!

[dogz67chevelle]

I would want a couple or 3 or 4...

deanna

[Rocco]

I'll purchase 2 calendars please. Where do I send the $ ? !!

[mrr1999]

I'll go for one

[Bishop73]

I'm in for at least one, possibly two.

[68byrd]

I would be in for a couple. Great idea.

[130fe]

I would be in for a couple also.

[OnEdge]

I'd be in one. Count me in.
Ryan

[jackfrost]

oh hell yeah. I need some decoration for the fabric cube I spend all day in.

I like the voting idea. should be easy to do?

[Samckitt]

Count me in for one.

[Ron S]

Count me in. Ron

[tones2SS]

Are they all going to be action shots?
Maybe do full action shot page, with a little inset pic of a still shot? I think that would be cool.

[Larry Callahan]

It looks like they will all be action shots.

[jwn68]

I would buy one.

[mc84_zz4]

I am in for 2. If you have additional cars, you can have a corner on the day of month part with a smaller pic, say 2x4 or 3x5; as a feature.

[Pro-Tour Heavy Chevy]

Count Me in. A mix would be good

[newt267]

i think it whould be graet i will take one

[tommycomfort]

Count me in! I don't want to complicate things for 2010, but in the future a picture of the car in use, and a small build pic in the corner would be cool. Oh yeah, more home builts!

[CliffS]

count me in.

[daredvl22]

I'm in!

[WhiteG240]

I'm in. I would like to see at least 1 Pontiac.

I'm a bit biased.

[kochevy67]

Gimme 2 please:1st:

[nickpro_c10]

Im in for 3-4

[tones2SS]

Is this still on-going? I would like a 2010 pro-tour calendar.

[Larry Callahan]

I'm on it and will have news in 2-3 days

[staged67gspwr]

I would like a 2010 pro-tour calendar.



Me too.

[ProBell]

Count me in.

[nowukno]

I'd Like one also

[Larry Callahan]

We need help with the calendar. Check out this post.

https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/showthread.php?t=62830

[Steve1968LS2]

Images are on the way...

three camaros
two chevelles
two novas
two mopars
two mustangs
one ford

All action shots.. was about the most "fair" and demographicly diverse mix I could come up with :)

[muthstryker]

steve no GTO?!?!?! pfft. ;)

[Steve1968LS2]

steve no GTO?!?!?! pfft. ;)

Maybe I can get Larry to do a 13-month callendar.. lol

I will dig up a GTO


Hey, how about a calendar of just Camaros.. I certainly have enough material :)

[Larry Callahan]

Send me enough Camaro pics. I'll make both

[CraigT]

I am in for one......Craig

[lower90xcab]

i would be interested in one for the garage...

[Pzary3233]

I'll buy at least one!

[Chicken Louie]

Put me down for one.

[PARKERRS]

I'll take two!

[John Wright]

I'll purchase 2 calendars please. Where do I send the $ ? !!
Same here, I would like two.....+1 on where to send the dough. BTW, Do you guys do Paypal?

[lipe33]

I would like two. All I need is a PayPal address to send payment.

[Taylor1969]

I would like 2

[CRCRFT78]

two mustangs
one ford


Doesn't that make 3 Fords haha. No Pontiacs or G-bodies?

[high pressure]

Put me down for 2

[olds87]

Put me for 2

[jr421]

Put me in for one

[tones2SS]

I'm on it and will have news in 2-3 days

Very cool. Keep us posted!:cheers:

[Munster]

I'm in.

[Van B]

I don't know how I missed this for three months. I'll take one and if you are doing a Camaro only, I'll take one of those too.

[Larry Callahan]

I should have this finished by Sunday night.

[Rick Dorion]

I'll take two!

[Steve1968LS2]

Doesn't that make 3 Fords haha. No Pontiacs or G-bodies?

Demographics wise I bet there are FAR more people with Fords than with Pontiacs or G-bodies.

I added a Pontiac (GTO) shot, but out of luck on the G-bodies. They are like third-gens, not many out there at events to shoot.

Keep in mind that we only have 13 images and these are what I have from my archive.

[BA.]

I'm in for at least one, possibly more!

[Taman]

$25 for a quality calender. I am in. Maybe I will get lucky and be in it. I will be doing several events next year when I have my new suspension finished.

[tones2SS]

I should have this finished by Sunday night.

Very cool. Looking forward to it!

[Larry Callahan]

I think I'm about done. I need to finish e-mailing everyone in it to get permission and I think we are good to go.

[Steve1968LS2]

I think I'm about done. I need to finish e-mailing everyone in it to get permission and I think we are good to go.

Call me tomorrow.. I want to double check a couple things before we go to print. I took 95% of the shots, what to make sure the other shooters get thier credit :)

[Larry Callahan]

Cool! Thanks again for supplying the pictures.

[martZ]

I'm in!

[pro-touringAK]

I'll take 2

[John Wright]

I think I'm about done. I need to finish e-mailing everyone in it to get permission and I think we are good to go.
Sweet, can't wait to see it in my mailbox....LOL

[Rick D]

I'm in for at least one!! Paypal???

[daredvl22]

Forgot about this, but I'm still in for 1. Let me know, Paypal???

[hotrdblder]

sounds good, i will be in for 3-4.
where do you prepay?

[syborg tt]

i am in - could use one in the Garage

[E.rodz]

chalk me up for one also.

[John Wright]

Update?....just wondering when to place my order for two calendars....<slight giggle inserted here> 2010 is almost here...LOL

[Larry Callahan]

Almost done. A few new events are being planned and I should have the dates hopefully before the day is over.

[John Wright]

Ahhh, very good! Just chomping at the bit.....the cash is burning my pocket...LOL

[19,69camaro]

I would get one if it has nice shiny pictures

[RJ66]

I'll take one, I hope the Camaro or the Chevelle is one of the cars.


Randy(D&Z Customs LLC.)
[email protected]
1-262-347-9741

[Droolguy]

I think your safe with the Camaro and Chevelle... if anything I would cross my fingers and hope that they don't dominate the calendar.

[Larry Callahan]

One is a nice mix of cars, one is only Camaros and one is only MotiV8r.

[camrat68]

I would like one also please. :)

Jim

[Texas 1972 Velle]

I'll take one!

[camrat68]

Sorry, let me clarify that. If three calendars are produced, I would like one of each.

Thanks,
Jim

[Larry Callahan]

Cool! I am making 3 and I'm just hung up on dates for a few new events. Should be in a couple of days they say.

[L & H Kustoms]

Larry I'll take 3 calenders if its not too late

[Larry Callahan]

I have not released them yet so you are good.

[Droolguy]

I'll take one of the mix calendars.

[tones2SS]

Very cool we get a choice of 3 different calendars to choose from!
Keep us posted please!:)

[Larry Callahan]

About 5 minutes ago I placed an order for one of each to proof. I hope to release these in about a week?

[bubba57-chevy]

That's great news, I'll take 2 also, just let us know.

[Larry Callahan]

Just dandy. GM has gotten involved and has an issue with our calendars and won't let us print images of GM products.

I have made a call and I have sent off an e-mail to see what we can do. Unbelievable.

[Young Gun]

youve gotta be sh!ting me

[lower90xcab]

youve gotta be sh!ting me

x2.........

i just gave them 40k for a truck, you would think they could let a little old calendar slide by......

[tones2SS]

x2.........

i just gave them 40k for a truck, you would think they could let a little old calendar slide by......

lolll...
Don't forget all that "bail-out" money!! lol:machine::machine::machine:

[dropit69]

hmm weird i belong to other sites that sell calenders and they have gm products..wont say who to keep them safe ..weird..damn gm !!!

[Larry Callahan]

youve gotta be sh!ting me

Nope, I got an e-mail from a lawyer and I called her. The only option I see is to pay GM rights now that they are watching us or kill it.

Sucks because I was only marking up the calendars one penny each to keep the costs down.

[lower90xcab]

gm is paying people to surf the net all day.....looking for thier products be used in advertising w/o paying them rights to it.....


that explains why my truck cost 40k.......

[Samckitt]

x2.........

i just gave them 40k for a truck, you would think they could let a little old calendar slide by......

X3!

I can't believe that. Seems like it would be free advertisement for them. How about sending the ones that want the calendar the pictures & let us order them ourselves?

I heard the Mustang forums had this problem from Ford as well.

So does all the magazines have to pay GM, Ford, Dodge for the right to publish pictures?

[jknight16]

I may be naive since I'm just a finance guy but if they're OUR cars and the people submitting the pictures have provided consent, I fail to see how GM has any interest in the "image" of the vehicle. Seems like ownership of that image should fall under the owner of the vehicle.

What is the world coming to....

[Rick D]

Ok Larry what if you do not use any wording at all?? Call it pro-touring calendar and thats it. If you do not use there names (camaro chevelle chevrolet) which is what they are protecting the copy right for, than I do not see how they have a legal right to stop you from making them. But I am no lawyer and I would think it would still cost money to fight them on this. Don't we have a lawyer in the house that can take this on???

[Young Gun]

Nope, I got an e-mail from a lawyer and I called her. The only option I see is to pay GM rights now that they are watching us or kill it.

Sucks because I was only marking up the calendars one penny each to keep the costs down.

Well thanks for at least trying to get it to this point, hopefully it can get resolved!

[Ron S]

Wow Larry, I don't think they realize the amount of buzz this sight gives to GM's new products, and how stunts like this make me never want to buy another GM product. I just keep saying it, how did we get here? Ron

[tommycomfort]

[QUOTE=Larry Callahan;614494]Nope, I got an e-mail from a lawyer and I called her. The only option I see is to pay GM rights now that they are watching us or kill it.

That would be part of the GM that is not car enthusiasts and drove the company into the ground (among other things). Makes me sick!!!
Tom

:machine:

[KEISLER]

Ok Larry what if you do not use any wording at all?? Call it pro-touring calendar and thats it. If you do not use there names (camaro chevelle chevrolet) which is what they are protecting the copy right for, than I do not see how they have a legal right to stop you from making them. But I am no lawyer and I would think it would still cost money to fight them on this. Don't we have a lawyer in the house that can take this on???
Good idea ... images of P-T members cars, along with a description of the car.
No official logos, etc.
No factory press images.
No as featured in 'magazine name here', etc.
And a disclaimer that 'car names' are a registered trademark of 'car manufacturer'

In my opinion, these large corps don't want to hurt the enthusiast and they like us liking them. But they can't let one group break the rules and not enforce it, as that action can led to ramifications of enforcing their trademark in general, loosing the trademark rights, etc.

[Droolguy]

Don't worry about it, they are just legal scare tactics.

As long as you took the pictures and the people who own the cars already gave you consent (I assume they gave you consent anyway).

The only way GM would have any legal claim what-so-ever is if the calendar was solely about their stock show-room cars. Or you infringed on their copywright laws by calling it "The Camaro Calendar" or something like that, just list cars BY OWNER and then model (i.e. "Bob Young's 1969 Chevrolet Camaro") because it removes any claim GM can have since it is not "their" camaro anymore.

Once a car is purchased, GM no longer has ownership, and by extension no legal claim to a vehicle. Especially ones so extensively modified as most of ours.

[Droolguy]

If they really wan't to push the issue, because I am in the military I have *free* legal assistance.

Print them in my name, I would love for them to waste their money fighting it in court against our military lawyers.

[Van B]

Something seems wrong with this. These cars are 40 years old. How can GM think that they own any image that is ever taken of a car that they built and sold, especially over 40 years ago? This is BS and would never hold up.

[hotrdblder]

gm never built a camaro or chevelle as nice as what would have been in the calender.
makes me feel better about buying my first ford 1.5 yrs ago

[Jim Nilsen]

Send them an IOU and tell them you will pay them when they pay us !!!

One day someone will be asking why their aren't any GM cars in calenders anymore ? We could send them a calender with nothing but Fords,Mopars,AMC's and everything else but a GM and note to them that this may be what future calenders will look like when there is no GM anymore because they are choosing their future now.

I am looking at a calender I have on the wall and it has GM cars in it and it doesn't have one bit of any rights paid to GM.It was put out by Leapyear Publishing in Massechusetts. It was however printed in China which may be what you have to do to not pay, but now that the Chinese will own GM ?

Tell them to go threaten someone else other than law abiding people. There are still plenty of people who don't pay that are bigger fish. I can't think of a grand jury that would let that go anywhere.

On another note, if you never send one to anyone else but a member here and GM never gets one in their hands to show someone that you made them, how would they have a case ?

Make them and let them make the first move if they ever know when and with what?

[Samckitt]

Here is some info on the threat of lawsuit Ford had against a group called "Black Mustang Club"

http://www.adrants.com/2008/01/ford-slaps-brand-enthusiasts-returns.php

While brands certainly don't want people using their products, logos and other related imagery to create products of their, own, the hammer that Ford legal dropped on the Black Mustang Club seems a bit heavy handed. Recently the club created a calendar which contained images of club members' cars photographed by the members themselves. Ford didn't take kindly to this and asked CafePress, the service the group had chosen to print the calendars, to kill the project claiming all the images in the calendar are the property of Ford...including the Black Mustang Club logo (this has been clarified in the update below. in actuality, it was CafePress which, based on past Ford trademark dealings, initially refused to print the calendar).

It's understandable that a brand would and should do everything it can to protect itself from any kind of potential negative effect but to attack a group of people who, clearly, love the product in question simply for showing their love of that product is, well, idiotic and more harmful to the brand had they done nothing at all.

BMC Owner Lisa commented to group members, "I'm sorry, but at this point we will not be producing the 2008 BMC Calendar, featuring our 2007 Members of the Month, solely due to Ford Motor Company's claim that they own all rights to the photos you take of your car. I hope to resolve this soon, and be able to provide the calendar and other BMC merchandise that you guys want and deserve!"

We hope this can be resolved as well. It's one thing to protect your brand from being harmfully tarnished. It's another to shoot down the very people who love your product the most.Wake up and smell the CGM, Ford.

UPDATE: The issue has been resolved. Ford Car Communication's Whitney Drake tells us "Mustang (and other car owners) can take pictures of their cars and make calendars and sell them to whomever they like. They can't however use Ford logos in the calendar." She further clarifies, "The club (Black Mustang Club) and cafe press (or another printer) now has permission to print the calendar. Apparently, CafePress misunderstood the intent of an earlier communication from Ford regarding the use of trademarks on other products they sold when it told Black Mustang Club it would not print its calendars.

[dropit69]

so calender will be called just cars..lol.or does someone own that name too??

[Samckitt]

so all we need to do is make sure there are no logos?? sounds easy enough..

Easy enough with Photoshop!

[Bow Tie 67]

In my skeptical mind I say the Shark ( sorry to any on the board, I do have friends who are lawyers ) picked up on this and is trying to make a buck on the side. But what do I know. Scam

[Droolguy]

Easy enough with Photoshop!


The logos on the vehicle are exempt as they are "part" of the vehicle. They mean no big chevrolet symbols superimposed on the pictures... exct.

[Van B]

I am going to sue GM to pay me advertising revenue for when my wife drives her Impala around. Makes about as much sense. Do the magazines have to pay GM any time they run a picture of a car that has a Chevrolet bowtie on it.

Oh, and Matt, you are going to have to change your screen name. GM owns the words Bow Tie...:enguard:

[budweasel]

There it is.

Truth is stranger than fiction.

[Larry Callahan]

I was told by the lawyer that works between GM and Cafe Press that if you can tell it's say a Camaro that GM owns the rights block it from publication.

I'm not giving up yet. I have talked to them on the phone and they are passing it on for further review.

[zbugger]

That absolutely bites. The only thing the calendar would contain would be photos of the vehicles themselves, right? So in what way would they own the rights? It just sounds retarded to me...

[Larry Callahan]

It's nuts. Just check out Cafepress and search for Camaro or Corvette or Impala and you will find HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of items that fall into the same category yet they have not been pulled.

[Bow Tie 67]

Get ready for some " additional " fees if it goes through.

[GrabberGT]

so calender will be called just cars..lol.or does someone own that name too??


"CARS" would be owned by Disney right? LOL

This situation makes me happy I removed all identifying badges on my car as soon as I got it. I do it with every car I get.

Count me in for one of the more model diverse P-T calendars when they come available. Just tell me where to send the money.

[Jim Nilsen]

It's nuts. Just check out Cafepress and search for Camaro or Corvette or Impala and you will find HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of items that fall into the same category yet they have not been pulled.

The people invloved are pushing the edge and hoping you pay up front so they can move on. They will continue to push like bill collectors until you tell them you don't care and that they have to prove it when it happens.The obvious thing is that others have told them to go take a hike and that is why you still see it all up. It hasn't even happened yet and they have their hand out already proving that they keep moving to fresh meat as fast as possible. Without content they have nothing and they will never have something unless you send them one.

Make them have to earn their money and they will take the path of least resistance and move on just like bill collectors do.

Speculation on their part does not constitute a reality on ours.

[Jim Nilsen]

What IF ?

There are more ways to do this and I wonder if this is possible?

If there was a format that could be put up that had the 12 months of the year and you could insert any pic you wanted to choose from and then print it or send it to a file and have it printed up the size and way you want it?

Just make a donation to get into the thread and there you go. It's not like anyone is out to make a profit and everyone doing it themselves adds diversity you just can't get any other way.

We could just make a page for the car of the month with a calender below it. I only show one page of my calender at a time.

It's just a thought and I know I have thought about making my own calender many times. A good choice of pics that are high quality would help.

I know paying up and getting one already made is easier for some but it may be a way to get around the lawyers.

[Mark Antrim]

These are the things that drive me nuts. Do they have noting better to do than bother a group of hobbyist? We aren't going to make millions on this and for a lot of us it's just a way of saying we got our car in something. What about all these posters that are out there( you know the ones that we get at the shows) and the renderings? Why are they bothering our small community.

[Bow Tie 67]

These are the things that drive me nuts. Do they have noting better to do than bother a group of hobbyist? We aren't going to make millions on this and for a lot of us it's just a way of saying we got our car in something. What about all these posters that are out there( you know the ones that we get at the shows) and the renderings? Why are they bothering our small community.

I think it comes down to the printer covering their ass.

[DriverzInc]

Just dandy. GM has gotten involved and has an issue with our calendars and won't let us print images of GM products.

I have made a call and I have sent off an e-mail to see what we can do. Unbelievable.

Ugh. If it gets resolved, we'll take a least 4 for the offices here.

[Steve68]

I'll take my calender with big pieces of green painter masking tape on the factory emblems!

[jr421]

OK SO LETS MAKE THE ASSUMPTION THAT WE BOUGHT GM WITH BILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT WE DONATED TO THEM TO KEEP THEM MAKING EXCITING NEW CARS....... I CALL THIS BOARD MEETING TO ORDER......... EVERYONE IN FAVOR OF ALLOWING THE PRO-TOURING SITE TO HAVE THEIR CALENDER SAY EY.......... EXCELLENT IT PASSES 1 BILLION TO 0.


SERIOUSLY I THINK ITS VERY SAD THAT THEY HAVE HUGE PUBLIC RELATIONS ISSUES ALREADY AND THEY CAN'T FIGURE IT OUT. WHY DON'T THEY :machine: THEMSELVES IN THE FOOT AGAIN!

[Jim Nilsen]

I think it comes down to the printer covering their ass.

That's exactly what is going on. It's a shame that the lawyer for them doesn't have a grasp of what others have done.

I vote for telling Cafe Press to go find their asses and get back to us when and if ever they do.

The calender I have put out by Leapyear Publishing just has the year and type of car on it and that is all along with a nice pic and they have had obviously no trouble at all, not a mention of GM on the whole thing.

They can be reached at www.leapyearpublishing.com (http://www.leapyearpublishing.com)

they are represented by [email protected]

Just go with the people who already know what to do. If the publishing company makes money off of the deal by collecting the money and giving it to GM that would be a good reason for the lawyer to be on the side of us paying for something we don't need to worry about. they are just being middle men and you can go directly to the licensing company that GM uses. If you need the number I can get it for you or maybe Jeff Tate can post it.

TAKE OUT THE MIDDLEMAN and their lawyer too.

[NvrDun71]

Any updates on this?

[Larry Callahan]

I am waiting back for some info. I hope to hear in a day or two.

[Z06killinSBF]

Have you looked into using Snapfish instead? My wife has stuff made from there all the time.

http://www2.snapfish.com/

[Larry Callahan]

I may try that.

I am confused though. The three versions that I ordered as a proof before I turn them loose arrived today. Aside from a couple of formatting issues I need to fix they look awesome! I SO could sell these in a store some place.

[Larry Callahan]

Ouch! Before shipping they are $19 at Snapfish. My goal was to keep them as far under $20 with shipping as I could. To do that I was only marking them up one penny.

I will contact CafePress again in the morning.

[CarlC]

Live it up Larry. Make it 2-cents.

[OLDFLM]

Sell them here first... then sell them retail and make some money my friend!! I don't think anyone here would mind! As long as we get ours first of course! LOL

[Larry Callahan]

It looks like we are back on. I made changes to 2 of 3 of them last night. I hope to have these ready to release over the weekend.

[John Wright]

I hope to have these ready to release over the weekend.Suhweet!

[Samckitt]

What did you chnge/do to be allowed to print them?

[67 Camaro]

So if i get a Shot of me Pushing the rolling Chasis down a hill can i be june?
LOL! any whoo i'm down for at least one... give me something to work towards in the garage.

[Larry Callahan]

What did you chnge/do to be allowed to print them?

Removed the word Camaro and photo shopped the emblems off a couple of cars.

Keep your fingers crossed!

[NvrDun71]

It looks like we are back on. I made changes to 2 of 3 of them last night. I hope to have these ready to release over the weekend.

Cool! Thanks for the update, my cubicle at work is calling out for one of these....

[tones2SS]

Very cool. Keep up posted please.

[454bug]

Hurry up Larry!!

Whoever's car is on January is going to be pissed if it takes much longer... :lmao:

[John Wright]

Hurry up Larry!!

Whoever's car is on January is going to be pissed if it takes much longer... :lmao:
:lol:Bwhahahaha...Ray you do have a point.

[Larry Callahan]

Good point. Maybe I should just make Motiv8r January. Right now it's not inside but is the cover.

[jocko124]

what if you sent them out for free and everyone agreed to give you money for "shipping & handling" or made a voluntary donation to the Larry Callahan Foundation?

[Droolguy]

So if the calenders almost complete who's cars can we expect to see in it?

[Young Gun]

so glad to see this come to fruition!

[Larry Callahan]

They are done. I am waiting for my proofs. I will work on a sheet tonight showing all the cars.

Congrats to everyone that made it and no offense to those that did not. There are so many cool cars on the site and only 12 months.

[Larry Callahan]

Here are thumbnails in random order for the 2010 Mixed car, Camaro only and MotiV8r calendars.

[BuddyP]

I want a Camaro version when ready!

[Finch]

Looks like I need to get one of each

[Bishop73]

Yep, definitely want the mixed calendar.

[Larry Callahan]

I'm 99% certain the proofs will be fine. If you just can't wait and want to roll the dice PM or e-mail me and I'll send you a link to buy them now for $15 + shipping each.

[John Wright]

Aw man!....You mean there are three that I have to choose from?

I guess I'll get two of the mixed, and one each of the other two.

BTW, you did a Great job with the calendars!

[phenometron]

i will take one...mix it up with a body, f body, mustangs, mopar, could even have a small before pic down in the corner.

Or a '71 Riv... Mine should be ready by the year 2030. :)

[Larry Callahan]

Aw man!....You mean there are three that I have to choose from?

I guess I'll get two of the mixed, and one each of the other two.

BTW, you did a Great job with the calendars!

Thanks but really the thanks mostly goes to Steven Rupp for the great pictures.

Tony Huntimer and Scott Gulbranson also need to be thanked for supplying a few of them of MotiV8r.

[CarlC]

That pic of David driving Penny is awesome!

[rwhite_692]

Larry, put me down for one of the Camaro ones. -Rob

[Larry Callahan]

That pic of David driving Penny is awesome!

Oh I know! I would hang a poster of that in my garage is a second.

[Steve1968LS2]

That pic of David driving Penny is awesome!

That's the one image of all of them I didn't take.. but it's my favorite shot of Penny.


It's an honor to contribute the rest of the shots to this Calendar.. I shoot so many shots that never get used and it's nice to see them on paper.

This year I will go out of my way to take shots specifically for next year's calendar. That way I will have a thicker file of shots (other than Camaros). :)

[zbugger]

Man... I'm wanting one of each. Larry, let me know when they're available and I'll choose what two I want to get.

[tones2SS]

VERY COOL!!!
Let us know when they are all proofed and ready for order. I would like a Camaro only calendar. THANKS to Steve and Larry!!!:1st:

[CarlC]

Oh I know! I would hang a poster of that in my garage is a second.

$130 for an approx. 5' x 3' color print suitable for framing.

[megaladon6]

they look great! congrats on getting through the BS. put me down for one mixed and one camaro.
thanks

[olds87]

When there calenders are available?

[Larry Callahan]

My best guess is Wed. I payed an expedite fee to get my set of proofs and they claim I will have them on Tuesday or Wed.

[OLDFLM]

One mixed calendar please... (c:] They look GREAT Larry!!!

[Larry Callahan]

Keep your fingers crossed. I tracked the new proofs and they are out for delivery to my house right now. If all is well these can go on sale tonight.