PHR Project Street Fighter Mustang Update/Problem

[MilesSpeed]

So I just dropped my Victor Jr. topped Windsor in my '66 Mustang and the hood won't even set on with the carburetor installed. This doesn't seem like a strange engine/car combo, does anyone know what scoop or preferably bolt-on hood would fit this?

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

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[ill steez]

i have a friend with a windsor with a victor jr, and he has a shelby style hood... from what i recall it barely clears.

[MilesSpeed]

barely clears is better than no carb!

[Bryce]

i have that set up on my 65 falcon. i have a tear drop hood.

on my 65 mustang i have a victor jr with 1" spacer and a predator carb (the box with variable venturi) I have no hood. Im thinking a 5" cowl or a tear drop.

[Provertstang]

I have a 408 Windsor in my '66 project. The motor was lowered 3-1/2" and I have a drop base circle track style air cleaner and it only has 1/4" room with a shelby style scoop.

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Brent

[oestek]

Nice car!

[Krazed]

Do you have the air cleaner on it yet? Haven you even tried the drop air cleaner? Or is this with JUST a carb, and no air cleaner or air cleaner stud?

[MilesSpeed]

looks like im sol! I cant drop the motor at all and don't really care for the tear drop for this project... any other suggestions?

[Provertstang]

Sell the Windsor, build a 302 stroker, go with an Eddy RPM or a Weind Stealth.
You will gain 1.3" in deck height and the intake will gain you about 1.35".
I think cowl hoods are for Chevrolets so I would not suggest that for a Ford (some do, they look good, and that's fine)

Best of luck,
Brent

[Ron S]

Put an LS1 in it,you'll have plenty of hood cleareance,just watch out for the hate mail.Seriously though, I did the glass cowl hood,it doesn't fit those cars too bad. Ron
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[Damn True]

Tiger stripes are extra!

[SatisTraction]

Sell the Windsor, build a 302 stroker,

there you go. 363 cubic inch dart based stroker!!!

[Mr.VENGEANCE]

now THATS a streetfighter Mustang.. good luck Liz.. get that thing out there!


Put an LS1 in it,you'll have plenty of hood cleareance,just watch out for the hate mail.Seriously though, I did the glass cowl hood,it doesn't fit those cars too bad. Ron
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[badbu68]

How about cut hood and install shaker hoodscoop?

http://www.mustangsunlimited.com/itemdy00.asp?T1=RAK6248A+01

[thetoystore]

i like the shaker idea also. maybe find a shaker from 03-04 mustangs would be cool. and a side note liz if ur not married hit me up. jp

[novaderrik]

go with the shaker style scoop.
it would ould be a good story for the magazine.

[LMDGUY]

Id call the guys at Mustang Plus
http://www.mustangsplus.com/xcart/home.php
they are pretty much the restomod kings, they hooked me up with a hood when I could clear my tall efi intake

[79-TA]

I'll throw my support in for the shaker option. Of course, shakers have their own clearance issues, hence my car's current shakerless state. Note that in that kit everything below the wide part of the shaker needs to fit below the hood . . . that might need some creativity and fabrication thrown at it, especially if the hood isn't even clearing the carb.


That or build a screamer of a 302 that easily revs past 7k . . . yea, I know the engine article is already in print so that's not an option. Best of luck.

[MrQuick]

So I just dropped my Victor Jr. topped Windsor in my '66 Mustang and the hood won't even set on with the carburetor installed. This doesn't seem like a strange engine/car combo, does anyone know what scoop or preferably bolt-on hood would fit this?

Any help would be greatly appreciated!



Liz, we are running into the same issue with our tall deck in a 66 Fastback. We opted to modify the frame, steering and oil pan. Dropped the engine down and back into the firewall. Luckily, no distributor back there to fowl it up. I just hope that fixes it. We really want to run the Shelby hood.

Can't wait to see what you end up with.

[MilesSpeed]

i really like the shaker idea. does it have an air cleaner inside? the carb would clear except for the vent tubes. if there was a choke horn that would have been in the way too.

[Restomod]

The 03-04 uses a filter but I think it is over to the side of the bay. I like the idea if you can get it to work. Second choice would be a teardrop, give it some thought they really look great on the early cars.

[WS6]

shaker scoop. I'm biased though.

[Motown 454]

Shaker hood. I always loved that on my buddies 69 Boss

[6'9"Witha69]

Hard to argue with shakers. Tear drops are cool too, but a little over done, especially in SoCal.

[My427stang]

I think a shaker will be difficult to do what you want to do. You need an even larger diameter air cleaner, then you still need a raised hood to fit the assembly.

I really like the cowl induction hoods, although you may catch some grief from the old school Ford guys.

To be honest, that's why I went with a Boss 9 scoop. The Boss 9 scoop would surely help, but its really not right for that body style.

I'd go cowl induction style or teardrop, once will be clean and functional, the other period correct (for a Ford).

Despite my personal weakness to peer pressure on my 70 :) I would lean toward the cowl induction on yours though because it would more readily match the original rendering and direction of the build

- Ross

[Restomod]

Save the Cowls for the chevy guys!!!!!! I think they totally look out of place on a Mustang!!!!

[CARLMB]

I like my cowl.
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CARLMB

I'm a mustang owner as well and don't listen to em, that cowl looks great! Is it a fiberglass peice? If so, may as where you got it?
Thanks!

[CARLMB]

It is a fiberglass piece and I got it from Mustangs Unlimited. Required very little rework time and it uses the stock latch and hinges. Just change out the hinge springs for the lighter ones designed for a glass hood.

[MarkM66]

Save the Cowls for the chevy guys!!!!!! I think they totally look out of place on a Mustang!!!!


x one mil

[jackfrost]

convert it to EFI?

[hivewax]

cut a hole out of the existing hood and make a custom steel scoop... fitting a fiberglass hood would roughly be the same price.

[6'9"Witha69]

My first car was a '66 coupe, and let me say, cowls are for Chevys, the same way roof stripes are for Fords!

[BigCat]

I vote for the '67 Shelby style hood (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.fiberglassspecialtiesnv.com/siteassets/images/parts/M-318.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.fiberglassspecialtiesnv.com/catalog/Hoods/M-318/&usg=__tYL6BiuNUE2vj-y7P6Ltg2SUGy0=&h=420&w=600&sz=44&hl=en&start=1&um=1&tbnid=pC5rRP88idy4iM:&tbnh=95&tbnw=135&prev=/images%3Fq%3D1966%2BMustang%2BHood%2BEleanor%26hl% 3Den%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox%26rlz%3D1I7SUNA%26um%3D1). Of course they also carry an 'Eleanor' style for '65-'66 and a 'closed' Boss 429 for '65-'66. You have options.

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[ProMav71]

I like the shaker idea also but I don't think its going to work given the height of that manifold. I think the shaker base would be sticking through the hood.

Liz, can you take of pic of the side kinda even with the top of the front fender so we can see how far the setup sticks up over the fender line? Would give us a better idea of the type of scoop it would take to clear. I'm thinking all the idea's short of the Cowl hood are not going to give you the room you need.

[Steve Chryssos]

Seein' as it's a streetfighter, you should fab your own--In the same way that streetfighter motorcycle enthusiasts fab their own tail sections and headlight fairings to serve raw purpose, impart originality and control cost. Keep it as simple as possible. It doesn't even need to be a scoop. It can be a bulge for clearance only. And figure out a gasketing so that it can be attached with rivets--beautifully exposed rivets. And don't try to hide it or blend it in. It can be raw metal or black. No need for body color or bondo.
K&N has a formula for calculating air filter requirements. According to that math, we should all, technically be running filters the size of pizza boxes. No one does of course. But you can pick a good size air cleaner and then make clearance for it with the right bulge. The 65 vette 396 hood was born of clearance issues more so than airflow.

[Steve1968LS2]

So are we going to have a shootout when this is all done?

Track Rat vs Streetfighter

It would be fun..

[Damn True]

Seein' as it's a streetfighter, you should fab your own--In the same way that streetfighter motorcycle enthusiasts fab their own tail sections and headlight fairings to serve raw purpose, impart originality and control cost. Keep it as simple as possible. It doesn't even need to be a scoop. It can be a bulge for clearance only. And figure out a gasketing so that it can be attached with rivets--beautifully exposed rivets. And don't try to hide it or blend it in. It can be raw metal or black. No need for body color or bondo.
K&N has a formula for calculating air filter requirements. According to that math, we should all, technically be running filters the size of pizza boxes. No one does of course. But you can pick a good size air cleaner and then make clearance for it with the right bulge. The 65 vette 396 hood was born of clearance issues more so than airflow.

Winner winner, chicken dinner.

IMCA dirt modified hood/air cleaner protection thingy:

http://www.performancebodies.com/store/dept.asp?dept%5Fid=153

http://www.performancebodies.com/store/product.asp?dept%5Fid=153&pf%5Fid=PER54X410

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Flat black it and rivet it on.


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[Steve Chryssos]

Okay, now THAT's streetfighter. That would take some guts. If a 69 shaker hood is the right thing to do, then don't.

Another example of Wrong being Right
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Otherwise the term "streetfighter" is just being hijacked to mean budget or rusty. And that would suck. :idea:

[Mr.VENGEANCE]

exactly... steve.

they think budget is the only meaning..

mines just rusty.. and budget.. ahaha

[Steve1968LS2]

I didn't know "streetfighter" was a budget deal.. I just thought it was a minimalist deal.. only stuff that makes you faster.

[Ron S]

I think it is minimal,and raw,with a touch jagged metal

[Chicken Coupe]

What about a Maverick GT "Grabber" hood scoop rendition?

It's got a nice cowl-like bump but it's all Ford.

http://jalopnik.com/5332132/hood-scoop-of-the-week-1971+72-ford-maverick-grabber

[Finch]

I think a factory scoop from the 83/84 Mustang GT might not look bad, the ones that have the opening in the rear.

[Serpa69]

If I had a ford I would go with the shaker.

Who are you fighting on the street?

[Steve Chryssos]

You're fighting conventional thinking. The Maverick Grabber GT and 83-84 GT ideas are perfect examples of alternative thinking. I love shaker hoods too. But it's fun to dream up "what if" alternatives. And even more fun if you succeed at pulling them off.

[Tony_SS]

I didn't know "streetfighter" was a budget deal.. I just thought it was a minimalist deal.. only stuff that makes you faster.

minimalist. function. speed. that's the way I understand a 'streetfighter'.

[Damn True]

https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32032&highlight=streetfighter+thing

[MilesSpeed]

I think I'm going to try the shaker. I don't have a photo of the profile right now but the thing that sticks up is the bowl vent tube by about 1/4-inch.

[Rocco]

I can't wait to see how you solve this from both a functional and aesthetic standpoint. My engine is not as tall (Performer RPM) so I got away with a stock shaped fiberglass hood with no scoop, though I'd like to run a taller air cleaner. I've always read (and heard) that the 65-66 Shelby hood scoop was too low to get a clean flow of cold air, and that it just provides a little more clearance for the air cleaner. Anyway it will be interesting to see what you come up with.

[rikfrey]

I'm running a shaker on my 66 coupe FI 408 Windsor - email me - I'll share my experiences & pics

Warning: There are lots of fitment issues with shakers - that’s why you don't see a lot of them out there.

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[Bullockracing]

Holy necro-posting Batman!!! I think this car is all complete... At least what I recall reading in the mag at least a year ago or so...

[Mr.VENGEANCE]

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[WS6]

Yeah, she's got the hood issues figured out by now. The car looks good.