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Skip Fix
07-31-2009, 06:26 AM
Need some input from you brake gurus before I finish up the rear brake system. This is mainly a drag car, hopefully on the low 10s 500" Pontiac motor 695 hp in a 79 Camaro. Skinnies up front slicks in the rear.
Wilwood 10.75 Dynalites up front with the BP-10 pads that come with it. GM Metric I believe 2.5 pistons on the rear in place of the ratchet TA calipers with the stock TA discs (drilled for the 1.2 studs on the Mosers in the 33 spline 12 bolt).
I've seen some guys not impressed with the BP-10s on the Wilwoods. They do make that compound for GM metrics. It looks like a pretty hard pad especially compared to soft "regular" organic pads.
When autocrossing I knew alot of guys tried semi metallics and went back to organics for quicker stopping on their shorter courses vs a road course.
So Use anything on the rear and keep the BP-10s on front. Buy BP-10 for the rear, or get a more organic front pad?
Payton King
07-31-2009, 12:53 PM
a drag car you will want something with a good intial cold bite. Most of the autocross style pads work well from about 100 degrees.
Hawk has a huge selection of pads. I would try them. I have a set of BP-10's in a non-power situation and do not like them. Put a set of Wilwood "B" compound pads in and loved them, but they are a race only pad and hard on rotors...need a little heat as well. Just got a set of Hawk HP + pads in today. Putting them in this weekend. I will let you know. Another good pad not as aggressive as the hp+ is the HPS pad.
Look on wwwtirerack.com and they have some reviews for both pads or call Hawk and get a rec.
hope this helps
dipren443
07-31-2009, 01:56 PM
a drag car you will want something with a good intial cold bite. Most of the autocross style pads work well from about 100 degrees.
Hawk has a huge selection of pads. I would try them. I have a set of BP-10's in a non-power situation and do not like them. Put a set of Wilwood "B" compound pads in and loved them, but they are a race only pad and hard on rotors...need a little heat as well. Just got a set of Hawk HP + pads in today. Putting them in this weekend. I will let you know. Another good pad not as aggressive as the hp+ is the HPS pad.
Look on wwwtirerack.com and they have some reviews for both pads or call Hawk and get a rec.
hope this helps
I have used Hawk Hp+ and HPS pads. For a car that sees more track time, I would go with the HP+. Once they are warm, initial bite is awesome, but they can be a bit noisy. I wouldn't want to run them on the street. The HPS is my de facto goto for my daily drivers. Great moderate pad, decent bite. No noise whatsoever, just a little dusty.
I may be in the minoroty, but I wont touch ceramics ever again. Two bad experiences with severely glazed rotors... You can have em...
Skip Fix
07-31-2009, 02:25 PM
I'm thinking the drag pad requirements would be similar to the autocross -quick initial bite. I can check Wilwood for a softer than a BP -10 closer to an organic for a quicker bite, just know they think ALOT of their pads. Maybe the A or H pads.I do have some BP-10s for the metrics and some Wilwood aluminum metrics. But their calipers have no outer O ring on the caliper bolt and almost 0.040 larger than the bolt so it can rock. Plan on hand Dremeling an O ring groove but have some new cast iron metrics mocked up on it now I was going to run.
Or just go with what I have. Car is still getting final buildout. Dynoed motor just waiting to jump in it!
dipren443
07-31-2009, 03:12 PM
I'm thinking the drag pad requirements would be similar to the autocross -quick initial bite. I can check Wilwood for a softer than a BP -10 closer to an organic for a quicker bite, just know they think ALOT of their pads. Maybe the A or H pads.I do have some BP-10s for the metrics and some Wilwood aluminum metrics. But their calipers have no outer O ring on the caliper bolt and almost 0.040 larger than the bolt so it can rock. Plan on hand Dremeling an O ring groove but have some new cast iron metrics mocked up on it now I was going to run.
Or just go with what I have. Car is still getting final buildout. Dynoed motor just waiting to jump in it!
You seem like you may be set on Wilwood pads. Most of the major pad manufacturers make pads for wilwood. I know Hawk does... Not saying not to use Wilwood, but look elsewhere too. You may find another compound you prefer to run. Wilwood has a cross reference pad chart on their site. Has Raybestos, Performance Friction, and Hawk PN's listed.
http://brakepads.wilwood.com/07-interchanges/index.html
Skip Fix
08-01-2009, 07:55 AM
Just didn't figure others made pads for Wilwoods calipers. I'll check then out.
JRouche
08-06-2009, 07:13 PM
You seem like you may be set on Wilwood pads. Most of the major pad manufacturers make pads for wilwood.
http://brakepads.wilwood.com/07-interchanges/index.html
Great info!! Thanks. I never knew there were other pads for the wilwood cals. Never thought to look. I saved that chart. You prolly helped me out for the future when cash is a lil tight. Grassy :) JR
Skip Fix
08-06-2009, 07:50 PM
Well an internet search for the Raybestos number just keeps kicking you back to folks with Wilwood pads and not anyone who has that Raybestos pad.
Wonder what brand Aerospace uses with their Dynalite clone caliper.
dipren443
08-15-2009, 07:25 AM
Well an internet search for the Raybestos number just keeps kicking you back to folks with Wilwood pads and not anyone who has that Raybestos pad.
Wonder what brand Aerospace uses with their Dynalite clone caliper.
Try this link Skip, seems to list them by Wilwood caliper app and they carry the whole Raybestos performance line...
http://www.livermoreperformance.com/raybestos.html
Skip Fix
08-17-2009, 02:51 PM
So what do you all think of different pads front and rear?
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