My S10 Project:

[Just_Robert]

The front suspension is currently being built by Max at Bio Kustumz. It will lay the rocker panel on a 22" wheel and get atleast 12-14" of travel. The spindles, control arms, and the engine crossmember will all be hand fabricated out of sheetmetal. No round or square tubing will be used. The factory steering was ditched in favor of a Mustang II rack (more to come on that!) It will use Slam Specialties RE7's and Fox Racing 2.0 shocks. Factory Blazer spindle design was incorporated for the C6 Z06 Corvette Brake swap.

Engine Crossmember:
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[Just_Robert]

The Lower Control Arms:
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[Just_Robert]

Rear Steer Mustang II (Flaming River short pinion rack):
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/07/090508_093002-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/07/090514_104031-1.jpg

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https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/07/Blazerclip-1.jpg

[Just_Robert]

The start of the diamond rails under the cab. This is the straight portion. The bends will be all mandrel style. Made out of 3/16" PNO.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/07/untitled12-1.jpg

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[Just_Robert]

The Fox 2.0's:
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/07/photo-1.jpg

[Motown 454]

Very nice it looks like they do some great work.

[Just_Robert]

This is definitely a different project than what you guys are use too, but we're all after the same end result.

The front suspension is pretty much lined out. All the Max lacks is the upper control arms, which will be diamond shaped. After I get that back from him in California, Keith Sawyer at Nfamus will get the frame transition (engine crossmember to rails) going, and we should see some progress on one of his nice 4 Link setups in the coming months. I'm ditching the factory S10 rear end in favor of a Winters V-8 Quick-change :). Nick at Intro Custom Wheels will be taking care of me with a set of RTE 66 Gallup's.

Should see some progress this week on the uppers and shock arms!

Robert

[HectorM52]

WOW. Fab work looks amazing.

But what exactly are you going for? Laying rockers on 22's? AND it's gonna handle like its on rails?

I'm subscribed.

[Tig]

Looks killer, they sure do look like they do a great job.

Suibscribed

[Just_Robert]

WOW. Fab work looks amazing.

But what exactly are you going for? Laying rockers on 22's? AND it's gonna handle like its on rails?

I'm subscribed.
Thanks man. You have a nice project going.

This is just simply my cruiser. I'm into air suspension, so my "coilover" is an airbag. I get the biggest thrill by ridding a 1/2" of the ground. I've seen alot of crazy trucks in my scene, but only a few of them compare to the hot rod world.

It's going to handle like a Caddi :)

[lower90xcab]

killer fab work....

[thetoystore]

for those that dont know. Max Fish of BIO Kustoms is the chip foose of the minitruck'n world. his work is second to none nomater what car or truck it goes into. love it

[LMDGUY]

BIO Kustoms builds nice stuff. keep the pictures coming

[Eric Howell]

Killer fab work!
What is going on with the steering linkage? Any pics of the truck you started with?
Subscribed!

[Just_Robert]

Killer fab work!
What is going on with the steering linkage? Any pics of the truck you started with?
Subscribed!
It's a front steer rack that was mounted as a rear steer making the steering output reversed. With the bell crank (cantilever arm mounted to the side of the rail), it then reverses it so that it is pushing in the right direction for a rear steer. It has been compared to a Rube Goldberg device, but there really was no other simpler way to accomplish it.

As for the truck, I'm quite embarrased.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/07/IMG_7459-1.jpg

[Twentyover]

It's a front steer rack that was mounted as a rear steer making the steering output reversed. With the bell crank (cantilever arm mounted to the side of the rail), it then reverses it so that it is pushing in the right direction for a rear steer. It has been compared to a Rube Goldberg device, but there really was no other simpler way to accomplish it.




And you couldn't source a rear steer rack?

While the workmanship is great, the linkages have complexed up the steering. Every joint is a place for it to get sloppy from clearance.

I guess I don't get it. I'll wait until it's done to look at it in total.

[Eric Howell]

It's a front steer rack that was mounted as a rear steer making the steering output reversed. With the bell crank (cantilever arm mounted to the side of the rail), it then reverses it so that it is pushing in the right direction for a rear steer. It has been compared to a Rube Goldberg device, but there really was no other simpler way to accomplish it.

As for the truck, I'm quite embarrased.
Now I understand how it will work. Nothing to be embarrassed about with your truck. This is what I'm starting with.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif (http://s177.photobucket.com/albums/w235/87wildside/Somthing%20or%20Other/?action=view&current=100_0311.jpg)

[Just_Robert]

While the workmanship is great, the linkages have complexed up the steering. Every joint is a place for it to get sloppy from clearance.
Very true. Every extra joint is an extra chance for failure. If I went the front steer route, It would be mounted fairly high up (basically in the way of everything). With this crazy steering setup, It allows me to mount my rack at any height I want (low and out of the way). One draw back right now is I need to get a front sump LS pan made, but I'd rather spend the money on that and keep the motor as low as possible.

Just keep your mind open. It has alot going on, which is my style. It will be done before you know it!

[Just_Robert]

Lower Shock Mounts:
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/07/a3933ba8-1.jpg

I'm not sure how they are installed. The uppers will get finished up sometime this week. I'll get pics of both once they're installed.

[Just_Robert]

Now I understand how it will work. Nothing to be embarrassed about with your truck. This is what I'm starting with.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif (http://s177.photobucket.com/albums/w235/87wildside/Somthing%20or%20Other/?action=view&current=100_0311.jpg)
I might follow you over to S10Planet.... Hmm.

[Just_Robert]

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The bung on the end of the arm will have a heim joint that pivots and connects to the upper.

[Just_Robert]

Some people don't like "alot going on" but I dig the hell out of it. "Its crazy for the sake of crazy" Max Fish

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[Just_Robert]

The shock looks to be in the way of the steering, but keep in mind that its missing the hubs. This setup was designed around a specific wheel/tire size, so turning won't be an issue.

[Brandon Miller]

Looks good but all of that steel looks god awful heavy.

[thetoystore]

think of this truck as a lead sled not a racer

[Just_Robert]

Bump for an old thread!

I bought an LQ4. I'm swapping the heads/intake manifold over to LS3. Those, and a large cam should give me some nice horse power to move my "lead sled".
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[Just_Robert]

As far as the frame, I ordered billet link bars and Keith has started on the rear section:
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[railin93]

awesome work he's throwin out there...must be a pretty penny too...must be nice!...keep up the updates!

[Tig]

everything is lookin great, that frame is going to be killer.
pure beef right there guys

[WTRacing]

looking great man

[Just_Robert]

Thanks guys!

Just got back from SEMA. I'm gonna hit this project hard the next couple of weeks!

[Just_Robert]

I picked this up for mock-up:
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[WTRacing]

<-= jealous

[Just_Robert]

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[Just_Robert]

Finished up the drivers side:
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/11/f3996d5b-1.jpg

[WS6]

This is wicked!

[syborg tt]

not sure how i missed a s10 project.

Can't wait to see more updates

[Just_Robert]

Thank You Marty!

[Just_Robert]

A little look at some of my detail work I'm doing on the rear setup. Eric @ Killer Koncepts is helping me out on these cool parts (PM me if you need anymore of his contact info):

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/12/Untitled15-1.jpg

[Just_Robert]

I'm droping the block off at Lenmar in Mansfield, TX to get it honed .060 over. Vrrmmm Vrrmmm!
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The fun begins:
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[syborg tt]

man i love this truck. I would drive it just like this all day long




As for the truck, I'm quite embarrased.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/07/IMG_7459-1.jpg

[Just_Robert]

Thank you Marty!

[Young Gun]

I really wanna pick up a mini truck and throw in an ls engine with a 6 speed... those things are too sick

[Just_Robert]

Billet Bars:
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[Just_Robert]

Milling Design:
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/12/455189e7-1.jpg

Uppers & Lowers (Under Contruction):
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[Just_Robert]

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[CruizinKev]

woohoo sweet :twothumbs

[syborg tt]

Is this a 3" chunch of Aluminum ???

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/12/Picture006-1.jpg

[Just_Robert]

Yep lol. I'm in the wrong business!

[syborg tt]

Yep lol. I'm in the wrong business!

LOL -- So what did that chunk of Aluminum cost

[Just_Robert]

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/12/5de7a31a-1.jpg

These two bars alone were north of $1250... So I can't even image the cost of a 4' X 8' piece. Prob 7-10K :eek:

[Tig]

:yum:wow, that looks crazy
:eek: HOLY :eek: SHMOLY :eek:












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[Just_Robert]

The other shock mount Max finished up:
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/12/f66827d0-1.jpg

And Tony O finished up the link bar drawings:
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/12/6229f545-1.jpg

Merry Christmas Guys!!!

[Just_Robert]

Some good ol' frame work. It needs a couple more hours of work, but from what it was before they spent 3 hours on it, its damn close. Poor torch. I'm looking into a rosebud type tip for a Harris Model 16, if anyone knows anything about them.
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[Tig]

Lookin good man.
Lookin forward to the final results, ganna be bad ass.
I'm hoping to pick up a GenI S10 this weekend.

[Just_Robert]

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[XTRMEASURES]

subscribed

[cobraguy65]

Subscribing. Nice fab work!

[railin93]

that is what i'm talkin about...finally some milling going on!...they look awesome and cant wait to see them milled with the insets...question, did your machinist have a bear of a time setting up the bars to be milled like that?...designed mine to be straight with the design cut like yours at .375 deep...keep up the post and progress...cant wait to see more!

[Just_Robert]

that is what i'm talkin about...finally some milling going on!...they look awesome and cant wait to see them milled with the insets...question, did your machinist have a bear of a time setting up the bars to be milled like that?...designed mine to be straight with the design cut like yours at .375 deep...keep up the post and progress...cant wait to see more!

He had them set up perfect and he got a call for a rush job for someone in Israel, so he had to take them off again lol!

Definitely do the .375" milling! It will stand out so much more than .188" or .250".

[Just_Robert]

I'm gonna pick them up this week so we can built the mock-ups. I don't want to rush to get the milling done just in case we need to mount something on the link bar like a shock or ride positing censor.

Where is a good place to get aluminum polished at? I don't mind shipping them off to get a good finished product.

[Just_Robert]

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/01/4a6745d2-1.jpg

[Eric Howell]

Looks great as usual.

Those arms have more money in them then my whole truck with the backhalf...lol

[railin93]

damn those are beefy!...mmm...grade A sirlion right there buddy...where are you having them machined if you don't mind i ask...how did the relief look after he cut the designs or did they yet?...not sure if i'm doing the upper wishbone for mine in aluminum yet...haven't decided...might wait to see how yours turns out to decide...

[Just_Robert]

Ronnie at CMC in Fort Worth is doing all of my machining. The milling hasn't strated yet. We just got these back so we can build mock-ups and get going on the suspension.

[Just_Robert]

Wooot!
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[Just_Robert]

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[jackfrost]

wow! :seizure:

[XTRMEASURES]

wooot!
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mmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[jro183]

Unreal fabrication skills. You gotst mad talent.

[Just_Robert]

New Spindles:
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/03/5697f2a6-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/03/04059ca0-1.jpg

A quick drawing by Thom Taylor:
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/03/04743dee-1.jpg

[Motown 454]

Nice drawing and some sweet parts.

[monteboy84]

Any idea what the turning radius will be with your spindle arrangement? It's interesting, I've never seen balljoints done that way, is it common in the Lowrider world or are you trying something new?

The fab work on this is amazing....

[Shiro666]

Are you sure you know what you're doing?

I can tell by your work that this is your first time fabricating.

[Just_Robert]

Any idea what the turning radius will be with your spindle arrangement? It's interesting, I've never seen balljoints done that way, is it common in the Lowrider world or are you trying something new?

The fab work on this is amazing....
Thanks. It's called a uniball. It's used in long travel set ups due to it's high degree of misalignment. A lot of 4X4 and trophy trucks use them for more suspension travel and steering radius.

Check this link out:
http://www.blitzkriegoffroad.com/products.asp?section=frontsuspkits_08chevy_lt

[CruizinKev]

awesome! me likes the drawing!

[PJK]

Nice Truck! and nice metal work! I wish I could work metal like that.

[Just_Robert]

Hey guys! The build has gotten pretty slow lately lol, but not to worry!

New Lowers:
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/04/c5715ece-1.jpg

One side done!
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[twosaturns]

looks organic. very cool.

[ArtosDracon]

Oh, wow, i was wondering if progress was made on this.

[Just_Robert]

Ya, progress has been a little slow for my likings, but I don't have a deadline, so I'm not really worried about it.

Keith has been working on the frame all day. It takes literally hours to get a 3" section looking okay, then you sand away and repeat!

[lowrders]

holy balls! I quit going to mini truck shows because there was only a couple really nice vehicles. Most of everything out there is cobbled up garbage. But man, seeing things like this and knowing there are still people that dedicated and into it is starting to make me aroused again! lol.. WOW, i can't wait to see the end result in this!
Btw, With the diamond theme, are you in the process of making this the Severed Ties Theme truck!? haha

[randywyatt2000]

cool

[Just_Robert]

Btw, With the diamond theme, are you in the process of making this the Severed Ties Theme truck!? haha
Thanks man! I don't really consider myself a minitrucker, because that's an easy excuse for people to act like idiots.

As far as the <ST>, no lol. I get it alot though!

[Just_Robert]

More progress:
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[ArtosDracon]

Nice, congrats on the ink.

[Just_Robert]

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[montessaj]

Saw your ink in Mini-Truckin. Good job man! I love the fabrication here.

[1offwizard]

Thanks man! I don't really consider myself a minitrucker, because that's an easy excuse for people to act like idiots.

Well said!

[Just_Robert]

What's up guys?! It's been awhile since an update. I got the clip back, and Keith is in the process of tying it into the rest of the frame.

I picked up a new intake for the LS3. It's for ITBs!
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[ArtosDracon]

Must have more info on that intake, that is the sex! I hate trying to sync multiple TBs but they look so, so good.

[Just_Robert]

The manifold was built by Hogan's Racing Manifolds. It's build for 8 - 50MM Inglese EZ EFI TBs. They use LS7 style injectors, and are easier to tune then most ITB setups!

[Smock67]

Man this build is looking to be amazing. Diamond frame, amazing fabrication, and ITB's all make for a perfect reason to Subscribe.

[BOTMAN]

Loving the build.

[syborg tt]

yep you have lost your mind - Awesome

[Just_Robert]

yep you have lost your mind - Awesome

Haha, thanks Marty! It's gonna be a very long time till it's done, but that first drive down the road will make it all worth it.

More frame progress:
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[lowrders]

Well said!
Agreed agreed! One reason I'm out! I grew up :(

[Just_Robert]

I'm still not happy with the front end, so I enlisted the help of Bob Thrash for an idea or two:
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[ArtosDracon]

I've always wondered what a dime would look like if someone raked the grill 10-15 degrees and double pie cut the fenders to blend it. I have a feeling it would come out some what like a g-body monte SS, but trugly.

[Just_Robert]

Ehh. We'll just have to see how "trugly" it is.

[ArtosDracon]

For clarification, my definition of trugly is something that would be considered either sacriledge, heresy or stupid on a car, but passes the sniff test on a truck just fine. Like the guy who mounted a dodge magnum front end on a dakota, I thought it looked nice.

[scuda001]

I'm still not happy with the front end, so I enlisted the help of Bob Thrash for an idea or two:
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif

Like the sketch. I'm in the same boat...kinda. I've tried to come up with something different on the front but..well not a lot of choices. I'm looking forward to see how this goes.

[Just_Robert]

Bob Thrash has been really killing it on some of these ideas. I've decided to go with this front end. It's a perfect representation of a 67 C10 with the 2012 touch of technology.

Wheel design:
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Paint Scheme:
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"First draft of my 2 tone idea ,what im thinking is the early C10 trucks had a beltline trim that had Woodgrain thru the center on Deluxe models ,we could airbrush this on ,the upper and lower rocker color would be a Walnut pearl color and the body sides and tailgate area would be a lighter Beige pearl. I've always been a fan of painted wheel centers so they too shall be painted in a Satin Bronze color, separating the top and side colors would be a bold Orange stripe that wraps around the whole truck ,mirrors are upper body color too." - Bob Thrash

[Just_Robert]

Okay ladies, If you're not my friend on FB, here is what's been going on:
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[ArtosDracon]

So much detail going into this truck, should be killer when done.

[syborg tt]

looks awesome - can't wait to see it closer to being done

[jackfrost]

if the real thing comes close to the drawings, you'll be giving the Syborg TT a run for the money! :razz:

[syborg tt]

if the real thing comes close to the drawings, you'll be giving the Syborg TT a run for the money! :razz:

see there is proof that I am not the only goofball out there.

[Just_Robert]

Marty has a finished truck! I have a partial frame and a lot of drawings. I'm not even on his level yet guys. It's a progression thing, it's not like I'm out to top a certain truck. Imagine the next quality of truck that tops Syborg, and it keeps going and going!

[syborg tt]

Marty has a finished truck! I have a partial frame and a lot of drawings. I'm not even on his level yet guys. It's a progression thing, it's not like I'm out to top a certain truck. Imagine the next quality of truck that tops Syborg, and it keeps going and going!

Not to worry you are going to be building the next baddest s10 on the planet. I truely hope you take it to the next level and look forward to watching your build.

[scuda001]

I honestly hope every happens, because design wise, this s10 actually doesn't look like anything out there

[Just_Robert]

I'm starting the Drivetrain chapter this month. Robbie at Pacific Coast Customs will handle it. We're gonna start on the ITB setup. He's gonna spend a lot of time making this setup perfect, because IMO, it could be the coolest part of the build.

[Kybosh]

some pretty incredible work going into your truck,
that intake is a work of art

[CarQz17]

Man I'm right in Dallas, can't wait to see this thing on the road. Any updates?

[Just_Robert]

some pretty incredible work going into your truck,
that intake is a work of art

What do you think about it now?
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Part 1 of a multi-piece accent (this was just a milling test):
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[syborg tt]

Well it looks like this truck may pass up Syborg.

Pretty Awesome !!!!!

[95riosnake]

What ever happened to this project?

[Todd in Vancouver]

This is not great fab work it is pure art done with metal and at a level most of us can only dream about. I can honestly say I could never concieve even thinking up this kind of work. Mad talent to even think it up let alone pull off building this. Beyond Cool