American Autocross Series - Marina, CA - July 4th and 5th

[James OLC]

For anyone who is interested, the American Autocross Series (AAS (http://www.americanauto-x.com/)) is holding a two day event at the Marina Airport (north of Monterey) on the weekend of July 4th and 5th.

Since I have a rubber arm, Mary Pozzi has been able to convince me to bring the OneLapCamaro out for the weekend. Since the AAS was built around older muscle cars, I have been told that the courses are a little bit better suited for bigger cars like Camaros, Corvettes, and Mustangs. We have a pretty sizable list of things that we need to address on the car to get it ready but with some luck we should be ready for a fun weekend. We'll be a little bit challenged in the tire deparment and my driving will definately be a limiting factor but it should be a blast!

(thanks to David and Mary for convincing me to come down and for their always appreciated help and support)

[mazspeed]

Might have to go to that :)

[James OLC]

It looks like it should be a lot of fun and it gives us another chance to see if we are going in the right direction with our changes. For me, it's going to be a bit like taking a knife to a gun fight... but at least it's a sharp knife.

[Damn True]

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[CurtiSS 69]

It looks like it should be a lot of fun and it gives us another chance to see if we are going in the right direction with our changes. For me, it's going to be a bit like taking a knife to a gun fight... but at least it's a sharp knife.

I doubt you'll embarrass yourself. Good luck James.

Regards

CurtiSS 69

[mazspeed]

It looks like it should be a lot of fun and it gives us another chance to see if we are going in the right direction with our changes. For me, it's going to be a bit like taking a knife to a gun fight... but at least it's a sharp knife.

I think we will do pretty good. I think our cars have caught up to the new cars of today. I'm having mine tuned again this weekend and should be ready for the july 4th weekend if I go. I would like to know what class we would be in. VSP perhaps. Tires im sure would have something to do with class though. I need to change mine anyways.

[James OLC]

Tires (for me) will definately be an issue - I don't know if they factor into classes on not but mine are going to be on the comparably hard side of things for this one. On top of that were working on a new calibration for the ECU, changing master cylinders to get more rear brake, and adjusting the rear bar a bit... and we have to rewire the coil packs... and those are just the major things. Lots of work to do but everything should help.

[Jeff70]

Im going to swing by and check it out, I will be in town for the Moto GP at Laguna Seca. Anyone else going?

Jeff

[buickfunnycar.com]

I'm 1.5 miles from the airport so I'll see you guys there...:smoke:

[Damn True]

Is the USGP this weekend?

Yikes, traffic could be B.R.U.T.A.L.

[buickfunnycar.com]

Is the USGP this weekend?

Yikes, traffic could be B.R.U.T.A.L.

Yes...150-200k in attendance,mostly bikes...them guys are loyal!
Good thing about Marina is it's on the outskirts of all that activity but still...roads will be jammed...and the cops are out in FULL FORCE.

[Denvervet]

Since I'm in Santa Cruz for the weekend I'll be coming checkout the event. Anyone know what time I should try to get there?

[Damn True]

Earlier the better with the traffic from the USGP.

[mpozzi]

AAS will be running from 9am and will probably end around 4pm each day. Coming from Santa Cruz, take Hwy 1 south and exit off of Reservation Rd. Turn left at the stop and then turn right at the 7-11 (Wal-Mart parking lot) as Reservation Rd. changes route there.

Follow Reservation Rd. thru Marina and you'll leave town. At Imjin Rd. (signal), turn left. You'll go about an eighth of a mile, stop at a controlled intersection (why it's controlled is a mystery to me), and then turn right at the next driveway (near a hangar). You'll see cones and cars once you turn into the parking lot behind the hangar.

Hope to see you there and look for James Shipka's One-Lap Camaro and my '73.

Mary Pozzi

[Damn True]

I can't seem to find the entry fee info on that site. Am I a spaz or is it not intuitive?


Hey!

This just popped up on the AAS site:


7/2/2009
LATE BREAKING NEWS!!
Set this date aside!!!! July 25-26, 2009
We are in negotiations with Great America in Santa Clara, it is very possible that we may get a weekend for two events on July 25-26, we should know by July 10th if that will happen.
Stay tuned for more information, we will post here first, as soon as we get confirmation.

[Damn True]

Yup, spaz. Found it:

The American Auto-X Series is an autocross organization, organizing a 16 event series per year. The series caters to the "American Iron", so therefore the courses are designed somewhat wider than most autocrosses across the nation. The series founder, Larry Park, loved Corvettes, and really enjoyed making them go faster and faster, and since Corvettes need more room to get that horsepower to the pavement, we will continue in that tradition as long as time will allow.
General things to know about AAS:

* There are no membership dues for AAS events, cost is $50.00 per event. We start at 9:00am and try to give everyone 5 runs as long as time permits, and you must work one rungroup per entry. Registration generally opens at 8:00am and is open all day Saturday and till 2:00pm on Sundays.
* Helmets are required, Snell M or SA 95 or newer. There are some loaners available.
* We have a once a year technical/safety inspection, once your car passes tech, you will get a tech sticker which must be displayed, and visible from a short distance.
* Class structure is based on SCCA classes, however not all SCCA classes are offered individually, there are some that are lightly subscribed, so they are combined and indexed. We do not allow Karts.
* You must have a valid drivers license to compete and there are minimum age (16) limits for AAS competitors. Those who are under 18 years old must have a signed parents consent form, and also must have a minors waiver form signed.

[Jeff70]

Hey Mary, can rides be given at this event? I would love for my wife to ride with you on the track. She got to check out your skills at the GoodGuys autocross and still talks about how cool it is that your a woman kicking but and taking names! SHe has me looking for autocross schools now.

Jeff

[buickfunnycar.com]

Hey Mary, can rides be given at this event? I would love for my wife to ride with you on the track. She got to check out your skills at the GoodGuys autocross and still talks about how cool it is that your a woman kicking but and taking names! SHe has me looking for autocross schools now.

Jeff

The answer is probably yes but my wife has first dibs...she's been wanting to scream bloody murder in a '73 Camaro for a looong time.:yum:

[mpozzi]

Jeff and John ... come on out and bring the wimmins. We'll get 'em rides in some cool stuff and the course will be much faster than GoodGuys as we've got lots more room.

Tell 'em no screaming like little girls either ...

Cheers,
Mary Pozzi

[Damn True]

See ya'all in the morning.

Mary & David, I will be running with a friend of mine in an M3 in stock (group 1 I think) I'd love it if I could get one of you to ride along with me and give a bit of coaching.

[buickfunnycar.com]

Nice to see everyone out there today...that was a fast wide track ideal for these cars and what an impressive showing it was.

I'll post my pictures soon...

[Damn True]

Run the car john!!!!!!

[Damn True]

I had to rush home and get ready to go to a party with Kathy.

I'll post more tomorrow. Right now I am 1/2-way loaded and all the way sunburned and need to go to bed.

Here's a taste.

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[buickfunnycar.com]

Run the car john!!!!!!

LOL...seemed to be the theme of the day.

I was getting some serious ribbing for having my car there (I live 1.5 miles away) and not running it.
First time I fire it up in 6 months and running a auto-x was the last thing on my mind.

[CurtiSS 69]

Run the car john!!!!!!


Oh Yea!!!

I have to hear that beast at full throttle!

Regards

CurtiSS 69

[CurtiSS 69]

For those who couldn't make it to this great event here are some photos and video shot for a little hand held GoPro camera:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx_vXusxDyM

The One Lap Camaro was astounding, and it was so great to see it in action...The way it should be. Thanks James. I got a rides from the Autocross Masters themselves Dave & Mary in the Beast, and the smile still remains. It accelerates like nothing I've been in before and David told me it wasn't on the cam yet!

The AAS course was very fast and wide catering to larger more powerful PT type cars. The turnout of real CP cars was noteworthy. What a great way to spend the 4th.

Regards

CurtiSS 69

[James OLC]

It was definately an awesome weekend! We picked up a TON today - the result of some last minute changes to the rear suspension. There were some awesome cars out there as well, including TAZ - the Gulf '67 - which wound up being in our class. The American Autocross Series group was incredible - we got a total of 40 runs in the OLC over the two days (talk about hot lapping). Ton's of fun which, as always, I couldn't have had without the help and guidance of Dave and Mary - thanks guys!

[CurtiSS 69]

It was definately an awesome weekend! We picked up a TON today - the result of some last minute changes to the rear suspension. There were some awesome cars out there as well, including TAZ - the Gulf '67 - which wound up being in our class. The American Autocross Series group was incredible - we got a total of 40 runs in the OLC over the two days (talk about hot lapping). Ton's of fun which, as always, I couldn't have had without the help and guidance of Dave and Mary - thanks guys!


That's great that the car is dialed in. Even with the understeer troubles it was still daunting. Those One Lap and Optima Battery guy's have something to fear. You have the right Team.

Thanks for running the car for what it was built for, so those of us who were lucky enough to be there got to see it in action. I hope you start a trend.

What changes were made to the rear suspension to get it working better on Sunday?

Regards

CurtiSS 69

[mpozzi]

We had the absolute best time and all feel much more comfortable behind the wheel of James' "One-Lap" Camaro now. Turned some very quick times today and with better (read stickier) tires, the car would have gone from amazing to WOW. Still some tweaking and playing to do but the bulk of this is done!!!

Musclecarjohn came out and brought his wife who promptly planted herself in my '73 and got a few E-ticket rides in return. She was grinning ear-to-ear and methinks she might even entertain running John's Focus or her Honda in the future ... we'll see. We both had a blast and laughed most of the way around the course.

Running street tires kept me about a second slower than James Camaro but I love these Kumho Ecsta XS's and can attest to their performance for us with larger, heavier cars. Plus they make 'em in "our" sizes and Kumho's don't break the bank. Very fun to open the garage door, start the car and drive to the event, compete, and then drive home.

It was great to see True and meet other Pro-Touring members there. I met Deanna at Pleasanton GoodGuys and she brought her '67 Chevelle down. While she was a bit hesitant to navigate the cones at GoodGuys, the Chevelle did great at Marina. Everyone was extremely supportive and offered help, advice, and even a bungee cord to keep her battery locked and loaded when the OEM clamp gave way. I'm sure we'll see Deanna and the 'Velle at future events and she's even talking about upgrading her suspension. Hotchkis ... prepare for a phone call and she can't wait to get those goodies on her car.

And here's a fun shot ...
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Cheers,
Mary Pozzi

[David Pozzi]

Had a great weekend running the O.L.C. around the cones! Progress has been made but it's just amazing how much understeer we still had, and how much it takes to get the in car balance, -we are finally getting close.

I think the car did amazingly well compared to some real tough competition on better rubber and WAY less weight. No- we didn't beat the CP guys, but when you consider the tire differences, I think we did extremely well.
With the car getting easier to drive, James is doing much better with it, and he's closer to our times.
I have some video clips I'll upload and post.
David

[Damn True]

Lets see if this works:

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[Steve1968LS2]

We had the absolute best time and all feel much more comfortable behind the wheel of James' "One-Lap" Camaro now. Turned some very quick times today and with better (read stickier) tires, the car would have gone from amazing to WOW. Still some tweaking and playing to do but the bulk of this is done!!!

Musclecarjohn came out and brought his wife who promptly planted herself in my '73 and got a few E-ticket rides in return. She was grinning ear-to-ear and methinks she might even entertain running John's Focus or her Honda in the future ... we'll see. We both had a blast and laughed most of the way around the course.

Running street tires kept me about a second slower than James Camaro but I love these Kumho Ecsta XS's and can attest to their performance for us with larger, heavier cars. Plus they make 'em in "our" sizes and Kumho's don't break the bank. Very fun to open the garage door, start the car and drive to the event, compete, and then drive home.

It was great to see True and meet other Pro-Touring members there. I met Deanna at Pleasanton GoodGuys and she brought her '67 Chevelle down. While she was a bit hesitant to navigate the cones at GoodGuys, the Chevelle did great at Marina. Everyone was extremely supportive and offered help, advice, and even a bungee cord to keep her battery locked and loaded when the OEM clamp gave way. I'm sure we'll see Deanna and the 'Velle at future events and she's even talking about upgrading her suspension. Hotchkis ... prepare for a phone call and she can't wait to get those goodies on her car.

And here's a fun shot ...
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/07/DSC_0793-1.jpg

Cheers,
Mary Pozzi

Glad everything went well.. wish I was there to see it.

Also glad to hear that Jim's car is getting more and more sorted out. I still think his biggest detriment is the size of his front tires. Wider front rubber would really help the understeer situation.

In any event, great to hear you guys were out tearing it up.. that's what this hobby should be all about!

Marina was a fun time for sure. That's a great shot! Scope out that CP competition real close now.. lol

Is it September yet?

[David Pozzi]

Steve, We wish you were here with Penny! :) - we did get asked "Is this car Penny?" a few times!
Here's Mary running OLC.
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[CarlC]

Nice vid!

Looks like she's running one-eye-blind on the girll James.

[Damn True]

The left door would come open on some runs. Closes when the car slows though.

It's the intense G forces man!

[Damn True]

A series of series:

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[buickfunnycar.com]

Also glad to hear that Jim's car is getting more and more sorted out. I still think his biggest detriment is the size of his front tires. Wider front rubber would really help the understeer situation.

I think you're on point there Steve,switching to 275's in the front I think is the direction James & Dave are headed.
Car picked up bigtime over the wknd after the suspension tweaks.

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[Damn True]

There once was a man from South Boston
Who drove a shiny red Austin
There was room for his arse and six gallons of gas
But his bollocks hung out and he lost 'em.

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[buickfunnycar.com]

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Great pics True:smoke:...this Orange '69 was running an IRS setup from a 7-series BMW.

[Damn True]

Izzat thing supercharged?

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[Damn True]

BTW, how long does it usually take for Jesus to get results posted to his website?

Curious how my (slow) passes in BS stacked up.

I was lucky enough to have been invited to co-drive with a friend of mine in his 99 M3. Totally bone stock with the exception of a set of Dunlop *-spec tires.

58.445
53.365
52.254
51.995
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My only goal was to not break someone else's car so I wasn't very aggressive at all and I wasn't getting the hang of the last series of corners. But had a good time anyway.

[buickfunnycar.com]

...with my little Sony digital but here goes:

Wifey got the pleasure of riding shotgun w/Mary 3 times and I'm sure there was a whole hell of alot of screaming that first run,lol.
I know she had a smile ear-to-ear that whole day so like they say in the commercial:Priceless.
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Waving at me,lol:
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Best my zoom would do...I was already getting yelled at for standing too close:
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Look at that 36-yr old chassis WORK!
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Team Pozzi/Shipka:
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Car is amazing in person...hats off to you James for a job well done:
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[buickfunnycar.com]

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All business...:machine:
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7-Series IRS in a '69 Camaro:
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More than one way to skin a cat...or in this case doors:
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[Orngcrush69]

Great pictures, looks like everyone had a good time.

[mpozzi]

Here's a bunch of photographs of the event. I shot most of them but handed the camera to Dave and another friend when we ran OLC and my car.

While many of the cars are not considered by us to be cool rides, there are quite a few cars that should interest you. As there's over 200 that made the cut, I've supplied the link to get to them.

http://www.zenfolio.com/marypozzi/p192586140/

Cheers,
Mary Pozzi

[Damn True]

Good stuff.

Any car being driven hard is a cool car.

[David Pozzi]

Here is Milt in his first gen CP Camaro; "Taz".
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[buickfunnycar.com]

I remember watching him coming into that last corner thinking "how's he gonna stop...?"

Motor sounds nasty...:yum:

[James OLC]

I'm still working on getting caught up here but I uploaded this to tide everyone over until I can get my thoughts and vid's collected...

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...and many thanks to John for the hi test on Saturday!

[Damn True]

FUN!

I see they flip-flopped the direction on Sunday. Did they change the course at all or was it the same but just opposite direction?

You were pretty smooth through that beginning bit that was the last few corners on Sat.

[James OLC]

I'll try to post more video tonight (for some reason my Adobe editor kept adding a vid skip which threw the audio off) but anyways...

The direction on Sunday was opposite of Saturday but the course was essentially the same. I think that the only real change was that the point-to-point slalom at the begining (Saturdays end) was made a little bit less abrupt by moving the corners out about three feet. Other than that it was pretty much the same.

I downloaded some of the RacePak data Monday (there are 40 runs to go through and I've only seen a couple of them) but it's interesting to see - max speed was in the low 60's but max throttle was only 40%...

I think that the rear end might be contibuting to our push and I know that there is more to be had with some very minor changes. Mary had an epiphany on her second to last run and got things figured out. I would have given my eye teeth for some slicks.

[Damn True]

The rear end?

As in the suspension settings/configuration, or as in the differential?

[James OLC]

Maybe the differential - I think - but the jury is still out. It seems like the DPI is locking up really quickly and that may be making the car want to push rather than turn - especially on the 180°'s like the showcase. Like I said, the jury is still out on that one and I'm having a hard time coming up with an easy way to test the theory. The DPI is adjustable so maybe something can be done there but I don't know yet.

[Damn True]

I'm guessing that by "adjustable" you mean that you'd have to pull the pumpkin in order to make the adjustment?

Seems plausible based on what you, Mary and David were saying about where it was pushing.

[James OLC]

Yeah - it would have to come out and get sent back to DPI - PITA. I need to talk to them about what is involved and what the setup options are. Like I said, I don't know if it's an issue (or solution) or not but it's on the radar - like about a half dozen other things.

[buickfunnycar.com]

...and many thanks to John for the hi test on Saturday!

I was gonna ask how the race gas worked out for you James,when I got there you and Mary were trading seats and Dave was filming.

Did your motor like it...?:yum:

[James OLC]

It always likes it... I think the problem we were having was a combination of crappy California pump gas and the fact that we were getting a little bit hot. We were hot lapping the car and, for the most part, didn't have time to shut the car off between runs. It was easier to let it idle while we changed drivers and checked tire pressure. It wasn't much warmer (maybe 200° in the afternoon) but it was enough to ping a bit in second at low rpm under load.

The 110 cleared that up no problem...

[buickfunnycar.com]

Good to hear it worked out then,glad Mary remembered to call me...

[Denvervet]

I was able to watch my first autocross this last weekend. It looks like a blast and now can't wait to get my car finished so I can partake:twothumbs . I have a few pics I'll get up once home tonight.
It was great to meet the Pozi's and James. That OLC is one sharp looking car.
Mary and David are both really ( I mean really) good drivers at that event. I won't get into whom is better and open that can of worms.:dunno:
Thanks to all you guys for your hospitality.
David

[David Pozzi]

David, Great to meet you, I wish we'd had more time to BS, but there seemed to be too much going on!

Mary and I seem to wind up within a tenth of each other, except driving her Mustang, she's way ahead of me in that car.
David

[Denvervet]

David
I was hoping to come back down on Sunday but the family had other ideas. Oh well, still great to meet and greet. Here's some picss I took

[James OLC]

BTW, how long does it usually take for Jesus to get results posted to his website?

Curious how my (slow) passes in BS stacked up.

I was lucky enough to have been invited to co-drive with a friend of mine in his 99 M3. Totally bone stock with the exception of a set of Dunlop *-spec tires.

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My only goal was to not break someone else's car so I wasn't very aggressive at all and I wasn't getting the hang of the last series of corners. But had a good time anyway.

Results are up this morning. I was 8th in C Prepared on Saturday and 6th in Sunday. To put our changes in perspective, Satuday I was 6.36 seconds behind the best time in class, Sunday I was 4.07 behind. What they don't list are our fun run passes and (for some reason) David's (Mary's) runs on Sunday. Mary's best time on Sunday in the OLC was a 42.179 which put her ahead of Milt in Taz and just over 2 seconds behind the class leader.

Not bad for a car that was 500 pounds heavier than most of the of the class and on street tires vs. slicks...

[CurtiSS 69]

Results are up this morning. I was 8th in C Prepared on Saturday and 6th in Sunday. To put our changes in perspective, Satuday I was 6.36 seconds behind the best time in class, Sunday I was 4.07 behind. What they don't list are our fun run passes and (for some reason) David's (Mary's) runs on Sunday. Mary's best time on Sunday in the OLC was a 42.179 which put her ahead of Milt in Taz and just over 2 seconds behind the class leader.

Not bad for a car that was 500 pounds heavier than most of the of the class and on street tires vs. slicks...

That's great. Considering you have a streetable car, and the level of competition was extreme in the CP class. I'd call that a win for both car and driver.

Regards

CurtiSS 69

[buickfunnycar.com]

Results are up this morning. I was 8th in C Prepared on Saturday and 6th in Sunday. To put our changes in perspective, Satuday I was 6.36 seconds behind the best time in class, Sunday I was 4.07 behind. What they don't list are our fun run passes and (for some reason) David's (Mary's) runs on Sunday. Mary's best time on Sunday in the OLC was a 42.179 which put her ahead of Milt in Taz and just over 2 seconds behind the class leader.

Not bad for a car that was 500 pounds heavier than most of the of the class and on street tires vs. slicks...

I'd call that very impressive if you ask me....way to go James.:1st:

[Damn True]

I was slow.

Very slow.

I need to drink from the Pozzi fountain of driving knowledge.

[David Pozzi]

James,
I turned a 42.152 and a 42.188 Sunday morning.

[mpozzi]

... and there's another AAS scheduled for July 25-26 at Great America (corner Tazman and Centennial) next to the 49er's training facility.

Cheers,
Mary Pozzi

[Damn True]

Hmmmm......anybody need a co-?

[David Pozzi]

Here's a run in Frank Stagnaro's awesome Mustang. Just so you can see the difference between a real CP car and a streeter. This is not the same course as the Marina event.
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[JEFFTATE]

Wow !
That is some car !
Thanks David !

That video lets people know how exciting autocross can be.

[CurtiSS 69]

Nice video. Thanks David. That Mustang is quite a ride. I like the way it slightly loose -but not too loose- on the corner exits.

AAS has some really nice courses.

Regards

CurtiSS 69