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zboss86
04-27-2009, 02:56 PM
Hey guys...

What have you guys been using for an electric fuel pump for the tanks on a 1st gen camaro?

I've ran an A1000, weldon, and holley blue in the past. They all have one thing in common... They're too damn loud. I have about 350-400 horse engine that will see minimum track time.

Everything I see so far in the searches is for sump tanks or fuel cell for you hard core racers. I want something for the true street cruiser that wants something QUIET and reliable, but won't break my pocket book.

Hammered
04-27-2009, 04:13 PM
How about one of the reproduction tanks with an internal pump?

firstgenguy
04-27-2009, 05:07 PM
I am using the GM32AFI from spectra premium with my TPI setup . It looks stock but it has an internal pump and bucket setup.

Pros- very quiet and stock looking. 16 gal. nice looking.

cons- poor design on the float. (float sets in the bucket cuasing it to read wrong while driving). Still have noticed fuel starvation issues below half tank around corners. Stalled on me a few times.

Chevy
04-27-2009, 07:10 PM
I am running the same set-up as firstgenguy and have the same observations FWIW. There doesn't seem to be a low-cost solution unless you are a wiz-bang fabricator and make your own. Rick's stainless appears to be the standard if it fits your budget.

Good luck,
Paul

CarlC
04-27-2009, 07:28 PM
Rick's has the problem too unless you have them custom make something.

zboss86
04-27-2009, 07:38 PM
Wow, that's what I was afraid of...
I wish the guy at behindbarsracecars would hurry up and get one designed... He makes an awesome aluminum tank for a ford mustang that fits in the stock location. I ran one on my old turbo mustang and never had any problems. It was a fairly reasonable price around $500.

I love my classic, but I miss my fuel injection.

Jim Craig
04-28-2009, 08:26 AM
Doesn't DSE carry a stainless or aluminum (properly baffled) fuel tank for 1st gen. Camaros? If not, they'll be the best bet to manufacture one.

Chris @ Behind Bars makes a great tank, but is extremely busy with the later model GM & Mustang stuff..................he would make a great 1st gen tank though.

Try the Weldon 600-A for up to 800 hp carb / 700 hp fuel injected -- dead quiet when used with the proper bypass regulator or an 1100-A for engines over 800 hp and up to 1100 hp -- also dead quiet when used with the proper bypass.

Their billet bodied pumps are the loudest fuel pumps on the market -- your competition will know you've got one. But with the noise, they also provide the most fuel flow at pressure with the lowest amp draw on your electrical system.

zboss86
04-28-2009, 09:21 AM
DSE's tanks are over a $1000. For no more than what I'm doing, that's alittle spendy.
Chris's website says he's developing a tank for 1st gens, but he's been doing that for some time now. I imagine he's swamped. His tanks are about half price and look awesome. I had great luck with his tank that I used on my late model mustang. If he'll come out with one in the next year, I'll hold out.

I'll look into the Weldon 600-A. That's pretty close to what I'm looking for. I've been looking into the Walbro also.

zboss86
04-28-2009, 09:51 AM
Has anby body tried..

Welding a bung on the tank for a return line, get a fuel pressure regulator and stick an inline fuel pump in. Use the stock sending unit as a pick up.

What problems would one be facing? I suppose you would see starvation due to high fuel pressure that's not seen when running a carburetor? Dumb question maybe, but I ran a pick up tube for years in my mustang before I swapped to a sumped tank.

Thrillrr
04-28-2009, 01:03 PM
Check out the Walbro GSL 392 they are pretty quite and flow enough for 600hp

ErikLS2
04-28-2009, 01:08 PM
Has anyone ever tried one of these:

http://www.tanksinc.com/index.cfm/page/ptype=product/product_id=84/category_id=61/home_id=61/mode=prod/prd84.htm

Toying with the idea of just modifying my stock tank with an internal pump, just a mildly modified LS2 in a first gen anyway, doesn't need to survive a road course. Anyone tried this?

firstgenguy
04-28-2009, 02:25 PM
I have tried several different tank setups before the Spectra tank I have now. The first one I just basicly had a -8 bung on the bottom of the tank and used the stock pickup for the return.( worked pretty good considering ). Second one I used the same idea but used two -8 bungs and moved them at the front edge of the tanks bottom, agled toward the front. Third one I used the stock pickup with a Walbro 255 pump right after the tank. I ran into the pump getting hot and shutting down due to fuel starvation. So now I have the Spectra Premium tank and still looking.

zboss86
05-01-2009, 04:32 AM
I tried Chris at BBRC and he said he has a sumped tank "aluminum" but not one with a pump built in yet. $560-$800 range

Rock Valley has one for $720-$1200 range, depending on what you get with it.

DSE has a narrower version fo Rock Valleys that made to clear their mini tub kit.
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I'm in not hurry, so I may keep checking to see any body has made any stock version work...

Jim Craig
05-05-2009, 08:26 AM
I tried Chris at BBRC and he said he has a sumped tank "aluminum" but not one with a pump built in yet. $560-$800 range

Rock Valley has one for $720-$1200 range, depending on what you get with it.

DSE has a narrower version fo Rock Valleys that made to clear their mini tub kit.
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I'm in not hurry, so I may keep checking to see any body has made any stock version work...

Talk with Chris again and ask him about the tanks where he "hides" the pump on the outside (notches out the tank where its not seen and put the pump there). He's used the Weldon 600-A on a few of those applications -- you don't need to put the pump inside of the tank. The 600-A will pull fuel from 15 foot away, so you can put it anywhere and it will still work and its dead quiet.