Schwartz project "Temptress"

[jeff s]

It's a 1965 Pontiac Tempest.
Body parts came in yesterday for project "Temptress". Our chassis is the new series 3 A body chassis with mandrel bent rails. Yes, it will be powered by a Schwartz built LS engine. We unloaded an LS3 and an LS7 off a truck yesterday, which one will we use? Turbo, SC, NA, decisions, decisions.
This autocross/track weapon will debut on Power Tour 09 and be driven by Aussie Grant Craft and Jeff Schwartz.

[Mr Nick]

Going to be great, I'm sure. I love on your Olds project, you made the LS engine look like an Olds... Any plans to do something similar here?

[JEFFTATE]

Looks Cool Jeff .
I can't wait to drive a completed car with one of your chassis' in it.
I've seen a few , just never driven one.

[Code Red]

woo hoo go pontiac

[1971CHEVELLE]

Awesome project keep us posted

[Young Gun]

Is there any way to get another 20 cubes out of the ls3 and make it an LS-396? If so, that and a twin turbo setup would be too freaking cool.

[gto406]

Nice, how about throwing something like this in between the frame rails?

http://www.jbp-pontiac.com/FeaturedEngine/460EFI620HP.htm

[andrewb70]

Nice, how about throwing something like this in between the frame rails?

http://www.jbp-pontiac.com/FeaturedEngine/460EFI620HP.htm

Because Jeff sells LSx engine packages, not Pontiac engine packages.

Andrew

[DarkBuddha]

Just please, oh please, tell me you're gonna keep that patina! An ounce of paint on that car would be criminal!

Okay, I'm only semi-serious... I know any project with the Schwartz touch is gonna be cool either way, but that patina is absolutely awesome!

[twosaturns]

looks cool just the way it is, don't touch a thing.

[PT Goat]

Sweet project. Kinda wish I'd started with a Schwartz chassis but a bit late now. Next project I guess...

[frankenstang]

I tried to get him to build it as it sits and Power Tour the hell out of it. I'm thinking DP-90 black and a gutted interior. Bench front seat and a 6 pt bar for the eventual 'track weapon' Jeff is known for. Don't forget the 17inch steelies and sticky street tires. Maybe we can convince him to leave all the side glass out of it for the most hardcore of us out there.

[gto406]

Because Jeff sells LSx engine packages, not Pontiac engine packages.

Andrew

That is a shame, the Poncho would go a helluva lot nicer in a Poncho.

[Young Gun]

That is a shame, the Poncho would go a helluva lot nicer in a Poncho.

2006 gto used an lsx engine...

lsx is gm, not exclusively chevy...

[Code Red]

2006 gto used an lsx engine...

lsx is gm, not exclusively chevy...


I think he was reffering period wise

[gto406]

Thanks Code-Red, you got my point exactly.

I would also note that PT doesn't mean the car must have an LS motor (as great as these engines are).

I was merely pointing to another option in terms of how this car could be completed 8^)

I am sure Jeff will put together a wonderful Goat, just as Andrew (and Code Red) have or are in the process.

I also agree with Wyatt and others, you gotta find a way to leave some of that 'original patina' or wear on the car. Kinda like what B-Man has done with his '64.
Cheers,
Brian.

[WS6]

Is there a possible bore and stroke combo that could easily be done to the LS3 to produce 389 cubic inches? That would be cool.

[progoat]

Is there a possible bore and stroke combo that could easily be done to the LS3 to produce 389 cubic inches? That would be cool.


Thats exactly what i was thinking?

[jeff s]

I'm a pontiac guy from way back. I like pontiac engines. I did a twin turbo EFI 389 Pontiac for a 65 Lemans project that's in final assembly now. But I do 60 LS7's for every pontiac engine and a lot of LS3's. So to display my product, sorry, it has to have an LS engine.

[jeff s]

Here's the rough draft, 1st pass on the rendering.

[touge goat]

I love that rendering! That stance is almost exactly what i want for my 64 goat. I also can't wait to see how the front spoiler turns out:yum:

[SDS MACHINING]

I just created an account on this site, I have a schwartz chassis going under my 67rs, pictures posted in my garage, Cant say enough about his products.

[gto406]

Hi Jeff,

I can respect your position. I think the idea that WS6 and ProGoat proposed is very cool - an LS motor in a Poncho engine size, is very different.

How about a LS stroked to 421?

Love the rendering!

[jeff s]

Here's a revised rendering.
we'll make it a 389.
Thanks

[frankenstang]

That's pretty much how I had pictured the car.If it turns out that nice, the owner may not want it painted, ever. I really like the front end treatment. I'm assuming 'ram-air' from the headlight buckets?

[jeff s]

yea, ram air from the headlights and brake cooling from the chin spoiler.

[crafty]

We should be wearing these....

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/04/67015867v5_350x350_Front_ColorBlack-1.jpg

[jeff s]

Changed a few details

[WS6]

Looks great Jeff. That's going to turn some heads on Power Tour.

[jeff s]

Workin on this and other projects 7 days a week.
It'll be in black DP90 epxoy primer by the end of this week.
Look for updates and more pics here:
http://www.schwartzperformance.com/projects.aspx?projectid=27

thanks

[PleaseNoSteve]

Freaking love the front spoiler. Going to be a sweet ride.

[jeff s]

body will be all done by the weekend

[progoat]

Man you guys are killin me..your just blowin through this car! How much did you add to the width of the rear tubs?

[rockytopper]

You guys better put your best plumber on duty to get ram air thru the lower head lights. Things can get tight real fast with that LS in place. Nice project
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/05/ramair1-1.jpg

[SaturnVUEguy]

Looks great, and I'm digging those renderings

[cdoggy81]

Very cool Jeff. Keep the Poncho's rocking!
BTW, how is the TA?

[jeff s]

When minitubbing, we always add 3.5 inches per side on A bodies.
The TA is on hold until my divorce is settled, could be a while.
Heres some more. Keep an eye on my website, I'm updating every couple days on this and 4 other complete car projects.
Thanks

[jeff s]

Here's some more shots. Hope to have in running this Memorial Day weekend.

[RJ66]

Hi Jeff, The project is turning out awsome( as expected), I can't wait to see it in person.:6gears:


Randy (D&Z Customs LLC.)
1-262-347-9741

[crafty]

Black Barebones and Badass

.... and bound to be bold and beautiful burnouts


I did the '06 Power Tour with Jeff in the Ultima. Its my 40th in June so we cooked up a plan to build this baby together for this year's run. Im coming over from Hong Kong and bringing my brother up from OZ. Cant wait!

International driver's licence + very heavy right shoe = no fear.

[progoat]

That thing is looking sweet! Jeff is the rear going to come down a little further?

[jeff s]

There are no shocks in it yet, back will come down about inch and a half.
Thanks

[jackfrost]

it would be cool if you could find/make an "R" and rearrange the letters on the back to spell out "TEMPTRESS" instead of Tempest

[jeff s]

it would be cool if you could find/make an "R" and rearrange the letters on the back to spell out "TEMPTRESS" instead of Tempest
That is in the plan. But, working on getting it running 1st.

[gearheads78]

damn........you don't mess around

I seems like you started last week. Nice work

[frankenstang]

I bet Jeff is having nightmares from the Poison Dart build at this point. He HAS to have the car done THIS week.

Power Tour is gonna be so much fun, too bad I won't be there :(

[frankenstang]

The future owner is in town and the guys are thrashing 24-7 to get the car done. Knowing 'Power tour'ers', they will be working on it until Friday am!!!

[Code Red]

looking sharp

[Gearhead Dude]

Heres some more. Keep an eye on my website, I'm updating every couple days on this and 4 other complete car projects.
Thanks
Will there be a tail gunner or a back seat driver?

[frankenstang]

I think they won't have TIME to put in a back seat. Or exhaust (dumps?) Or windows, hence the 'washable' interior treatment.

[jeff s]

Yeah, no back seat, full exhaust with mufflers though, yes!
I posted a news feed on our home page, I will keep updating it throughout the days before PT.
www.schwartzperformance.com

-Dale Schwartz (Jeff's son)

[lunchbox89]

great platform. gl on build

[compos mentis]

Lookin' good.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif

[crafty]

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/06/CIMG0783-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/06/CIMG0780-1.jpg


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https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/06/CIMG0772-1.jpg

[FirstGenZq8]

jeff and/or dale, i see that the wheels you're running on this car are 18x9.5 and 18x13. who is the manufacturer? are you having to run adapters for them or do they build them in custom offsets?

car looks great btw!

[jeff s]

Wheels are XXR brand model 962
The rears I had modified by Weldcraft wheels from 9.5 to 13.

[jeff s]

Firing up the new engine combo tomorrow.
NA LS9, 9 bolt forged crank, dry sump, Wiseco Pistons, K1 rods, with nos.

[frankenstang]

Jeff sent me a message last night from the Summer Nationals in St.Paul. He said he was in first place so far in autocross for the 81 and older class. Hopefully he updates this thread when he gets back in town. Way to go Jeff, with a brand new engine, no less.

[jeff s]

Still no results of Car Craft RSE, but here's an ax vid
from St Paul
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1YROd8OpXo

[jeff s]

I just got a call from Jeff Smith at Car Craft Magazine.
Crafty's car, this 65 Tempest, won the 2009 RSE with me driving.

[Code Red]

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/06/CIMG0783-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/06/CIMG0780-1.jpg


https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/06/CIMG0773-1.jpg


https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/06/CIMG0766-1.jpg


https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/06/CIMG0745-1.jpg



https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/06/CIMG0757-1.jpg


https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/06/CIMG0772-1.jpg

very nice

[Damn True]

That thing........oh boy!

[jackfrost]

i'll take one.

[jeff s]

Im told the Car Craft RSE Shootout article will be on sale Nov 8th.
Here's some updated pics.

[jeff s]

I ran it at the drag strip last week. 12.36 at 116.9 with BFG KDW's
Vid should be here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgM406pOJxE
Car Craft AX vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1YROd8OpXo
RTTH 2009 vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBuHIaBTNOI

[jeff s]

Any comments on the Jan Car Craft article?

[Ron S]

I read the article Jeff, I really do dig that car. 12.36@116mph, with that MPH that thing should pull a high 11 sec pass with a little traction.I really do love the grunge approach,it is so much more fun. Ron

[72LeMans]

i got a question about the roll cage. is it welded to the frame or the body?

[1360]

Any comments on the Jan Car Craft article?

...other than jealousy? Cool ride & performance. Congrats.

[jeff s]

I recieved word this week that Tremec is using this car in a magazine ad entitiled, "Give in to Your Temptations"

[Rick Dorion]

Loved the Car Craft article. Pointed me towards XXR as an affordable wheel for my budget build. I like the theme and , of course, the results speak for themselves. Nicely done!

[19,69camaro]

Nice work that car is so badass

[Tony_SS]

Cool build.. I like the no frills/no bs concept.

[jeff s]

Cool build.. I like the no frills/no bs concept.
Thanks we appreciate the compliments/

[1970cuda]

My son stole my magazine before I even saw it. He came in to my office with it and said Jeff's got another car in a magazine. He wants to know how many cars you have..lol
Great job again

[jeff s]

The 1 /18th scale diecast version

[jeff s]

Popular Hot Rodding feature story coming in April issue. Also in Tremec ad. This car will be at World of Wheels Chicago, Road America April event and Hot Rod Power Tour.

[jeff s]

Pics

[JJEH]

Awesome...:)

[jeff s]

Here's the Popular Hot Rodding article. http://www.popularhotrodding.com/features/1004phr_1965_pontiac_tempest/index.html

[jeff s]

A couple event shots.

[jeff s]

The best event of 2010, Hot Rod Power Tour Autocross in Birmingham AL, I won the overall beating 120 cars, including Brian Finch and many late model cars 911, C6 Z06, RX8, 350z etc. BTW I drove the car the entire Power Tour and back to Woodstock IL from Mobil AL, about 3500 miles in 10 days.
Here's a vid of my final run.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWU_5DGMe04

[jeff s]

The Temptress continuously got more dialed in.
The Best event performance of 2011, Charlotte Goodguys,
Schwartz Performance wins Vendor class.