69 Camaro Air Ride and 20x12" wheels [Archive]

tazinhawaii

04-12-2009, 11:31 AM

So I finally got some $$ to commence the next phase of my 69 Camaro project. I plan on going with the air ride 4 link in the rear, and want to go with 20x12 rear wheels and 325 or 335mm tires. I will do the DSE mini tub. Anyone running 19x12 or 20x12's with this set up? Any other things that will need to be modified for this setup? Super Chevy mag this month has a 69 camaro that they say has the air ride with 19x12's. But very little other info.

Thanks,
Derrick

DriverzInc

04-14-2009, 02:15 PM

Derrick,
We can help you with all the right measurements, and backspace recommendations. Give us a call, and we can talk some more about how want the car to sit, and what type of driving you are planning on doing with the car.

FadedSS

04-14-2009, 06:59 PM

thats going to be sweet! make sure to post pics when the setup is finished

Rhino

04-14-2009, 07:05 PM

Can you truly fit a 12" wheel after a mini-tub? The biggest I figured could safely fit was an 11", unless it never sees any real driving.

tazinhawaii

04-14-2009, 07:44 PM

Due to the excessive extra $$$ for the 20x12" wheels vice 20x10", I'm just going to go with 10" wheels and 275 rear tires... I have to keep the budget within reason....

Derrick

John510

04-14-2009, 08:45 PM

Due to the excessive extra $$$ for the 20x12" wheels vice 20x10", I'm just going to go with 10" wheels and 275 rear tires... I have to keep the budget within reason....

Derrick

Keep saving dude.... You will totally regret not going with the mini tub and larger meats

1969CamaroRS

04-15-2009, 05:26 AM

Keep saving dude.... You will totally regret not going with the mini tub and larger meats

x2, work the budget if you can. Buy rims/tires once.

PRRC

04-15-2009, 06:02 AM

Derrick, We have several wheel lines to choose from. We would be happy to give you quote on any of them. Our new super store will be up and running with in the next couple of weeks( We hope) So heres the brands we carry.
Budnik
Rushforth
Boze
Bon Speed
Schott
Let us know if we can help.
Thanks Tim
So I finally got some $$ to commence the next phase of my 69 Camaro project. I plan on going with the air ride 4 link in the rear, and want to go with 20x12 rear wheels and 325 or 335mm tires. I will do the DSE mini tub. Anyone running 19x12 or 20x12's with this set up? Any other things that will need to be modified for this setup? Super Chevy mag this month has a 69 camaro that they say has the air ride with 19x12's. But very little other info.

Thanks,
Derrick

DriverzInc

04-15-2009, 02:10 PM

Due to the excessive extra $$$ for the 20x12" wheels vice 20x10", I'm just going to go with 10" wheels and 275 rear tires... I have to keep the budget within reason....

Derrick

You could always run the 305 Nitto on a 20x10 too for a beefy looking tire. Let us know if you need anymore help.

tazinhawaii

04-15-2009, 07:47 PM

Will a 305 fit in the stock wheel well??? If it will, then I know what I'm going with!! :)

Derrick

You could always run the 305 Nitto on a 20x10 too for a beefy looking tire. Let us know if you need anymore help.

SDS MACHINING

04-21-2009, 09:54 PM

its a tight squeez but a 20 x 12 does fit with a minitub kit, we found that the Pirelli PZero Nero 325-25 x 20 tire leaves enough room for clearance, you will have to roll the fender lip as well, but most people do this regardless. I just got word today that my Forgline rims will be here the end of next week. i will get some good photos showing the clearance we are left with then.

DriverzInc

04-22-2009, 08:21 AM

Will a 305 fit in the stock wheel well??? If it will, then I know what I'm going with!! :)

Derrick

Sorry Derrick, I thought you were still going to mini tub, but didn't want to fork out the extra $ for the widened wheel. I would not suggest a 305 in a stock wheel well. 285 is the widest I'd go...

tazinhawaii

05-26-2009, 08:53 PM

I just got all my new parts in. 20x10" and 19x8.5" Rushforth Live wires, air ride, Baer brakes, Strange Dana-60 rear. The wheels even exceeded my expectations. Even the fit of the 20x10's is perfect. Thank you Jason!! Here are a couple pics :

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/05/Wheelsairridebrakes005-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/05/Wheelsairridebrakes006-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/05/Wheelsairridebrakes007-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/05/Wheelsairridebrakes004-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/05/Wheelsairridebrakes001-1.jpg

Derrick

1nkred1ble

05-26-2009, 09:17 PM

every time i see a camaro like this i feel like selling my 70 chevelle

msgnfg

05-26-2009, 09:32 PM

JayR

05-27-2009, 07:30 AM

Looks like Christmas morning in your garage. That's an awesome stack of parts there, Derrick. Glad to have our wheels on your project. It looks great!

tazinhawaii

05-27-2009, 07:53 AM

Those look great. Are you going to roll the inner fender too, or will they clear? I'd love to go with the Air Ride setup on mine, but the cost keeps telling me no. I'd be curious once you get it on the road how often you find yourself changing the ride hight.

Nice ride!

The inner fender lip is already 'somewhat' rolled from the previous owner. But I'm pretty sure they would have fit without rolling them (although I can't be sure). The whole reason I went with the air ride is because I've only read good reviews, and I am sure I can nail the right look/ride height with this. Plus it will allow me to raise the car to get over some of the horrendous speed bumps and lousy driveways here in Hawaii when I need to.

Derrick

buickfunnycar.com

05-27-2009, 08:09 AM

every time i see a camaro like this i feel like selling my 70 chevelle

No way man...join the crowd,don't fight 'em.

Those wheels will look awesome on that car,excellent choice.:cheers:

tazinhawaii

05-30-2009, 09:38 PM

I just got the car down on all fours. I about shat myself when I stepped back and looked at it. Even better than I imagined when I ordered the parts. Here are a couple pics. This is with the air ride all the way down. I'm hooking up the electrical for the air ride tomorrow to get some air in the bags.

Derrick

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/05/Wheelsairridebrakes013-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/05/Wheelsairridebrakes014-1.jpg

Flash68

05-30-2009, 09:49 PM

dude that looks hot!

CamaroJesse

05-31-2009, 07:08 AM

Man that looks killer!

JayR

05-31-2009, 10:11 PM

Oh hell ya!! That looks incredible, Derrick! Nice work. Thanks for sharing pics! I predict Livewire sales are going to spike!

Rybar

06-01-2009, 11:31 AM

Looks killer, nice work!

buickfunnycar.com

06-01-2009, 11:56 AM

I just got the car down on all fours. I about shat myself when I stepped back and looked at it...

I can see why...that is smoking hot!:smoke:

1badchevelle

06-01-2009, 12:53 PM

Just loving it.

Hoping I can afford a sixty9 sometime soon. Kicking myself everyday for selling my first 69.

PhillipM

06-01-2009, 01:17 PM

Can we see the car at ride height?

JayR

06-01-2009, 03:35 PM

Can we see the car at ride height?
Speaking of that, let's see some pics of your car!

tazinhawaii

06-01-2009, 04:16 PM

Speaking of that, let's see some pics of your car!

There are a bunch of pics of the build located here :

http://s330.photobucket.com/albums/l433/tazinhawaii/69%20Camaro/

I'll get some of it at ride height after I finish putting the new 4L80E trans in. I lost 3rd and 4th gears in the 4L65E twice now in 700 miles, so I decided to go a slightly different route with the 80E.

Derrick

z4me69

06-02-2009, 03:44 PM

looks good what size are the front wheels and tires

tazinhawaii

06-02-2009, 05:18 PM

looks good what size are the front wheels and tires

Fronts are 19x8's with 245/45-19's Nittos

Derrick

ScotI

06-07-2009, 07:41 AM

Fronts are 19x8's with 245/45-19's Nittos

Derrick
Is this correct? A 245/45-19 is 27.68" tall. That's a tall tire on any f-body, especially one w/air-ride. What tire size did you ultimately decide on for the rear? Looks very nice!

tazinhawaii

06-07-2009, 09:57 AM

Is this correct? A 245/45-19 is 27.68" tall. That's a tall tire on any f-body, especially one w/air-ride. What tire size did you ultimately decide on for the rear? Looks very nice!

Slight mistake, It's 245/35-19's on the front. The rears are 275/40-20's. After putting them on I could have actually gone about 1/2" wider towards the inside (clearance between wheel and inner fender well). I'm pretty sure if measured right you could easily fit a 295 in the rear.

BTW, I brought the car to it's first show last night after putting on the wheels/air ride/brakes. A dealer did an unveiling of the new Camaro and invited out local club for a show. Outstanding response to my tires/wheels combo. JayR, everyone LOVED the Rushforth wheels and the stance.

Derrick

JayR

06-07-2009, 08:01 PM

Thanks for representing on such a killer looking ride, Derrick! I'm stoked you have the only set in Hawaii but as a businessman, I'd love to get some more around the islands and maybe I can write off my next trip down there! HAHA! Glad the car is on the road so quick. Thanks again for carrying the torch!

71CamaroSS

06-07-2009, 09:30 PM

Hope my Livewires arrive this week......pics like these are killing me!

Mr.VENGEANCE

06-08-2009, 07:52 AM

daaaamn

The WidowMaker

06-08-2009, 01:18 PM

killer ride and wheels. jay designs some sick stuff.

tazinhawaii

06-09-2009, 10:47 AM

Since I had a bunch of people ask for the backspacing, I thought I'd post it here. The fronts are 19x8 with 4-7/8" backspacing. The rears are 20x10 with 5-5/8" backspacing. They fit perfectly except I had to roll parts of the fender lips. Actually I could probably have gone with another 1/2" backspacing and still cleared the inner fender well.

Here's some new pics of it sitting in the driveway.

Derrick

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/06/DSC02431-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/06/DSC02433-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/06/DSC02427-1.jpg

Gandalf

06-09-2009, 10:50 AM

Sweet ride bro! Nice work.

buickfunnycar.com

06-09-2009, 12:06 PM

In the weeds:yum:...more pics needed please,front angles and one nice side view from down low.:smoke:

Rybar

06-09-2009, 12:47 PM

Is that ride height or fully dropped? Looks like your rear tires would rub sitting like that.

BTW it looks freaking SICK!

tazinhawaii

06-09-2009, 01:46 PM

Is that ride height or fully dropped? Looks like your rear tires would rub sitting like that.

BTW it looks freaking SICK!

That is dropped. I still need to get some at ride hieght, but it's not much higher.

A lot more pics of the build and today are located here :

http://s330.photobucket.com/albums/l433/tazinhawaii/69%20Camaro/

Thanks for the compliments all.

Derrick

J.J.

06-09-2009, 09:06 PM

sweet stance

tazinhawaii

06-10-2009, 06:23 PM

Sooooo. How "man-ly" is this? About 2 months ago I slipped and fell while running to get out of the rain and landed pretty hard on my ass. Well today I went to the doctors because it was still pretty sore. Turns out somehow I broke my ass (tail bone)!!!! So I thrashed on the car last week with a broken ass. This just shows that when I'm in the garage nothing else really matters... Just thought I'd share this story.

Derrick

gearheads78

06-10-2009, 06:47 PM

Sweet car and I hope your ass feels better soon :lol:

FroopieLoopies

07-05-2009, 06:56 PM

Rybar

07-05-2009, 09:32 PM

Derrick, I have to say your car does look very sick:

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/07/BTTShow9-1.jpg

FroopieLoopies

07-06-2009, 03:22 AM

hey flash68 your car looks great!!!! I have the same color with white strips. Im looking to go with the Rushforth Fuels or Rated X 18x8's front 19x10's rear!!

Gearhead Dude

07-06-2009, 03:25 AM

every time i see a camaro like this i feel like selling my 70 chevelle
I'm right there with you with my Cutlass. Very nice ride. If I had build. I like it a lot!

gmjj13

07-06-2009, 03:44 AM

nice ride, lovin the stance.

tazinhawaii

07-06-2009, 08:01 AM

Thanks all. Unfortunately, my fuel pump went out on me yesterday. So I'm going to get rid of my 'jerry-rigged' set up and get the DSE or Rick's fuel tank with built in pump next pay day... It's pretty bad when the tow truck driver has to take pics of my car as he lowers it from the truck and writing his $75 bill (for a 1 mile tow). I'm in the wrong line of work!

Derrick

dropit69

07-06-2009, 08:22 AM

holy crap thats awesome looking..nice job on the measuring...

tazinhawaii

07-06-2009, 07:33 PM

holy crap thats awesome looking..nice job on the measuring...

That was the cool thing. I didn't have to measure a thing. Jason Rushforth is so familiar with the 1st gen camaro's I just told him I wanted the livewires in 20x10's and 19x8's and he sent the perfect fit. Actually I could have probably had another 1/2" of backspace and not even had to roll the fender lips...

Derrick

tones2SS

07-07-2009, 07:42 AM

That was the cool thing. I didn't have to measure a thing. Jason Rushforth is so familiar with the 1st gen camaro's I just told him I wanted the livewires in 20x10's and 19x8's and he sent the perfect fit. Actually I could have probably had another 1/2" of backspace and not even had to roll the fender lips...

Derrick

That's exactly what you get when you order from Jason. TOP-NOTCH service & products.
Derrick, you car looks KILLER! LOVE IT! Great job.:1st: