Vintage Plates on a PT Car??

[texasdvldog]

Hey guys I'm building a 67 RS/SS Camaro and I was wondering if running California Vintage Plates (Black and Yellow) would "look out of place" The car is nowhere near original and not even the same color now. I was wondering how many people on this forum are running Vintage plates or should I just get regular plates. FYI, I don't have ANY plates on my car yet, I'll be registering it (for the first time) real soon. I believe starting this summer, California is allowing you to run the black and yellow plates on any 60's car. So I'm wondering what the consensus is... how many of you have vintage plates?

[ss dave]

got a 69 camaro vert, SPC with Varishocks, ATX spindles, G-link, LS7and 1969 Ks. plates.

[BobB66SS]

I have them on my car simply because it's a one-time, low cost permanent registration and saves money here in Michigan on the insurance, even using one of the collector car insurance carriers. I had vanity plates on it for several years, finally decided it wasn't worth the $$. Plus the 1966 license plate REALLY cuts down on the "what year is this?" questions.

[Steve1968LS2]

I think they are fine.. after all, these ARE classic cars and the black/yellow plates look great..

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/03/2rr2cdh-1.jpg

[Chad-1stGen]

Wait you can get new vintage plates in CA now? I didn't realize that.

[no bags]

..........I run vintage plates on my Camaro and Vintage Honda and hauler. We can run year of mfg. as long as we have current plates, registration and insurance in the car.

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[sik68]

Wait you can get new vintage plates in CA now? I didn't realize that.

Replicas:
http://www.licenseplates.tv/cat/california_147.html :smoke:

[DEIGuy38]

I like the old black and yellow plates. I would run them

[79-TA]

..........I run vintage plates on my Camaro and Vintage Honda and hauler. We can run year of mfg. as long as we have current plates, registration and insurance in the car.



I always thought you could only run vintage plates if you were just lucky enough to have the pair that survived on the car. Soo, is there some way I can get period-correct blue and yellow plates for my TA? Right now I just have some blue and whites from the earlier 90's.

[Steve1968LS2]

I always thought you could only run vintage plates if you were just lucky enough to have the pair that survived on the car. Soo, is there some way I can get period-correct blue and yellow plates for my TA? Right now I just have some blue and whites from the earlier 90's.

If your car still has it's vintage plates than it can run them. If it has newer plates then you are SOL.

BUT, CA just passed a law where, for a fee, you can re-issue black/yellow plates to your car if they are the right sequence.

[CRCRFT78]

Soo, is there some way I can get period-correct blue and yellow plates for my TA? Right now I just have some blue and whites from the earlier 90's.

No. And don't expect to be able to use CA blue plates anytime soon. They're only allowing CA black plates in sequence and by the year of manufacture to be reissued. However, I would suggest buying any CA blue plates you would hope to use in the future because I was told it may happen. The question is when?

[Chad-1stGen]

What do you guys mean "in sequence?"

[wicked68]

in georgia they have a single vintage plate that is custom - its not the year style - but they do let you make it vanity - I just got my new one back to match my handle - wiked68 - and plus its cheaper to go with the vintage registration.

[wicked68]

love the ct70 - that was my first minibike - I had it while living in the east bay in norcal. lot of fun memories learning to ride on that thing :D



..........I run vintage plates on my Camaro and Vintage Honda and hauler. We can run year of mfg. as long as we have current plates, registration and insurance in the car.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/01/DSC02040-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2007/08/DSC02032-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/04/DSC01132-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/04/DSC01136-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/04/lowcamino-1.jpg

[CRCRFT78]

Running in a sequence meaning the letters and numbers correspond to the year. For example, my 63 Novas plates start off with DS* ### (3 letters/3 numbers). The DMV can tell by the plate info what year those plates should correspond with. Along with the year stamped in the box where your yearly registration tag would go.

Same applies for CA blue plates. Notice early issues of CA blue plates have a 3 letter/3 number sequence, mid run CA blue plates have 3 number/3 letter sequence & late issued CA blue plates then had a 7 number/letter sequence in no specific order. The info all corresponds to the year of issue.

[Roadbuster]

I think the black plates look the best out of the California plates. I want a set for my 68. Too bad when I got it they were long gone. They would look better than the white/blue plates with my orange paint!

Jon

[class67]

I have the bue/yellow plates on my 67, they were on the car when I got it but since the car had not been registered since 79, I had to petition to keep them. It was not that much of a hassle and they look better than the new ones...I think.

If you have the black plates, by all means use them!

[texasdvldog]

well that's the thing..right now my car has NO PLATES! My car hasn't been "on the road" for about 20 years so of course it's not in the DMV's database. I saw them selling license plates at the Good Guys show a few weeks ago so I looked into it and it sounds like yea in July you can run the old black/yellow plates. And that dude was selling them like hotcakes for 250.00 bucks a pair! :eek:


I'm still a little confused about the "sequence" that some were talking about??

[go-fish]

In MS we get "Antique Tags" that have a little model T looking silhouette on it. It is just black and white. Very cheap looking and I don't like it.

I do like the fact that it cost me only $14 for life. It is a one time registration and the State is gracious enough to give Military members a tax break on all tags. $14 fo life!

[chicane67]

Basically... all it really means is a sequence of numbers, letters, or both and is issued by a government to identify an officially registered vehicle.

What is actually being discussed... is the number and letter in the sequence of the plate that has specific meaning. For example... the black and yellow California plates began alphabetically, with three letters beginning with AAA and ending in 1969 with approximately ZZW. Consequently, you can reasonably estimate the approximate year the plate was issued by the beginning three letters. For example, a plate beginning with D,E, F, G or H would have been issued in 1964. T, U or V would have been issued in 1967. W and X, 1968, Y and Z, 1969 and so on.

So for you to register a set of Black and Yellow plates to a vehicle... they would have to be in the proper "sequence" of the coinciding year for you to register them to the vehicle.

Oddly enough... my 67 L30/M20 LM1 actually has the originally licensed plates from 1966 on it and they start with "AOG"... which doesnt explain the above to be true. But... my 67 has a weird history of oddities associated with it... and I have found no conclusive answers to why it is the way it is. A few years ago... it was illegal to run black and yellow plates on a car that did not already have them. In fact, I was missing my front plate when I purchased it in the late 80's. In the early 90's... I had a duplicate plate made and had the original plate restored... to "meet" California's front plate law.

FYI: 1963 was the last year a complete new plate issuance to all vehicles occurred, those plates had a black background and chrome yellow characters. The license plate series began in 1963 (when ALL vehicles were issued the new plates) and ended in 1969. A black plate on the car AND on the title signifies that the car has been in California continuously since that plate was issued, which would be 1969 at the latest, ZZZ 999 being the last plate issued. Contrary to popular belief, a black plate can NOT be LEGALLY applied to a car that it was not originally issued to (which this law has been modified, but is not yet in effect.)

Having a black plate is no guarantee that a car was originally sold in California, however. If a 1960 Ferrari lived in New York from 1960-1965, then moved to California in 1965 and stayed here, it would have been issued a black plate around RRR 000 (This number sequence was issued consecutively in alphabetical order, starting at AAA 000 in 1963).

The new law: California State Assembly Bill # 462 was fully passed October 11, 2007 and will take effect July 1, 2009. It will allow year of manufacture license plates to be utilized on vehicles 1969 and older, or the owner of a commercial vehicle or pickup truck 1972 or older, and increase the fee to $45. Basically what the amended law does is allow YOM use of the 1963 series, California, steel, black and yellow license plates and the 1970 series, six and seven digit blue and yellow aluminum license plates for commercial vehicles and pickup trucks 1972 or older. This opens up two classic and important California series of license plates to include YOM for rare and important 1960's and early 1970 vehicles.

[DEIGuy38]

I bought a 69 El Camino SS with the CA black and yellow plates that were issued on the car in 69. DMV tried to make me turn them in when I started to register the car. So I held off on finishing up the registration. The car sat for 12 yrs and had to do a VIN verification.

[LONE*STAR]

I should be ready to register my car hear in a few months, It was a salvage title. I still need to do vin verification, brake and lamp ect. So how do I go about getting a black and yellow plate for my car? will they just issue me one? Or do I hunt a set down?

[rogue]

Wait you can get new vintage plates in CA now? I didn't realize that.

Until July 2009 not legally.

Steve is running Repops unless penny originally came with those plates in 1968...

They're changing the law in July this year that will allow I think 1969 and earlier to run vintage plates, before the cutoff was 1962 or they had to be original to the car.

You can get a regular license plate and then get one of the repop companies to make it in Black/Yellow and run your regular registration stickers on the plates. No cops are going to care.

[rogue]

No. And don't expect to be able to use CA blue plates anytime soon. They're only allowing CA black plates in sequence and by the year of manufacture to be reissued. However, I would suggest buying any CA blue plates you would hope to use in the future because I was told it may happen. The question is when?

July 2009 ;)

[chicane67]

No... not "NEW" plates... but any black and yellows that you can come up with that are clear on a DMV check.

If you purchase a set from someone, like the cat at Goodguys... and they are clear when the DMV does a check on them... yes, you can use those. But... no "NEW" plates will be produced to meet the change in the law.

Steve had re-pops made (out of state) from his late model plate's that were white and blue... the only stand out is that there were no 'personalized' black and yellows. So technically... Johnny law could still screw with him at will... if they knew what they were actually looking at.

[LONE*STAR]

any links to guys that make re-pops? The last guys post further up in the thread do not ship to cali

[JustinB]

I am having them shipped to a friend out of state than he will ship them to me. Cost a couple more bucks but oh well.

[CRCRFT78]

Originally Posted by CRCRFT78 https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/showthread.php?p=514103#post514103)
No. And don't expect to be able to use CA blue plates anytime soon. They're only allowing CA black plates in sequence and by the year of manufacture to be reissued. However, I would suggest buying any CA blue plates you would hope to use in the future because I was told it may happen. The question is when?
July 2009 ;)

For pickups and commercial vehicles according to chicane67. Not for your musclecar was what I've been.

[vp23271]

If you can get your hands on a set of year correct black and yellow or blue and yellow plates, I say run them! But for CA, you do need the pair and they have to be original and not re-poped. I have a business card for a guy that goes to the GoodGuys shows and his business is making "replica" plates. He makes them in plastic and also metal and they both look pretty good, but will not pass the mustard with the DMV. They are strictly for show. I will see if I can dig up his phone #.

Here are a couple links:
http://www.davesclp.com/

CA DMV info that extends the old limit from 1962 to the new limit of 1969 for passenger vehicles:
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d03/vc5004_1.htm

[BLT2DRIVE]

I have YOM plates on my PT LS7 Belair Bubbletop! My '37 had YOM plates too! Though not technically PT, it was running an LS6......

[vp23271]

Hey Blt2Drv I saw your Belair at Del Mar, Nice Ride. I remember seeing a 37 2 or 3 years ago at the Costa Mesa fair grounds that had a faux patina paint job but was a fiberglass body. If that was your car, the car was killer! The paint looked unbelievably real.

http://www.hotrod.com/featuredvehicles/hdrp_0704_1937_ford_patina_three_window/index.html

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[vp23271]

Ok, back on topic. I got a business card at the Del Mar car show from a guy in San Diego that makes "novelty" license plates. I held a set of the metal plates in my hand and they looked and felt like the real deal. I've seen him 2 or 3 times at various car shows and he has a small enclosed trailer and just sets up at the shows as a vendor and has plenty of plates on display. I have not done business with the guy, so maybe some other forum members can shed some light on him.

His info is below.

RayRay
11126 Orion Way
San Diego, CA 92126
858-271-6858
[email protected]

[Steve1968LS2]

Steve had re-pops made (out of state) from his late model plate's that were white and blue... the only stand out is that there were no 'personalized' black and yellows. So technically... Johnny law could still screw with him at will... if they knew what they were actually looking at.


I find most officers aren't hard-up to mess with our type of cars unless we are doing bonehead stuff like street racing, reckless driving or other "no nos"

I figure if a cop wants to hassle me for no reason he has plenty of things to go for (no front plate, modified exhaust, etc)...

The letters on my plate are real, just the color is different. I behave on the streets so I don't forsee a problem. My friend has been running his for years.

[JustinB]

I find most officers aren't hard-up to mess with our type of cars unless we are doing bonehead stuff like street racing, reckless driving or other "no nos"

Very true. Got pulled over about a month ago because I forgot to put my current tags on and ended up talking to the two cops that pulled me over about the car for about 20 minutes on the side of the road. First thing the cop said to me was "this thing is bad ass, what do you have in it."

[BLT2DRIVE]

Hey Blt2Drv I saw your Belair at Del Mar, Nice Ride. I remember seeing a 37 2 or 3 years ago at the Costa Mesa fair grounds that had a faux patina paint job but was a fiberglass body. If that was your car, the car was killer! The paint looked unbelievably real.

http://www.hotrod.com/featuredvehicles/hdrp_0704_1937_ford_patina_three_window/index.html

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Yeah those are my cars, check out the LS7 Bizzarrini in project updates.... I bought my YOM plates from vendors @ Pomona swap meet, both had a DMV print out that they were clear (available) PM me I have cards or reciepts somewhere in my files....

[79-TA]

The letters on my plate are real, just the color is different. I behave on the streets so I don't forsee a problem. My friend has been running his for years.

I was thinking of buying some paint and going that route, but didn't know if it would be taboo to suggest or not.

[CRCRFT78]

Anyone know the CA blue plate sequence numbers for vehicles during the 1972 or 1973 model year. Or have pics of their 72 or 73 with CA blue plates on it. I'm trying to find out the correct YOM sequence.