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soonercrew
03-28-2009, 07:44 AM
Looking for some help here... i know that this topic is and has been in discussion a million times... so, i figured i would put it out here a little different... i have been looking for months at an all new frt/rear suspension set-up for my 70 camaro project... i have come to really like the speedtech line... i have approx. 2-3k to spend...
what is ya'lls recommendation on which products... this amount has to cover everything on the front and rear... im pro-touring my car (of course), running a new crate 502, and want a lower stance (but not an on the ground look)... hope this is enough info to get some responses!!!
THANKS!!!
ProdigyCustoms
03-28-2009, 09:28 AM
Hotchkis TVS kit, Hotchkis / Bilstien shocks, Hotchkis Frame connectors, Speedtech upper arms, Speedtech solid body bushing kit. From us on sale comes to only $2350 and leaves you some money for a WS6 steering box, some tie rods and lower arm bushings and Ball joint from the local parts store (maybe $500?) So for around $2850 your set.
BMF Machine
03-28-2009, 10:16 AM
FranK is on ToP of his GamE!
HowS that for an answer? Hope you wind up buying from ProdigY, you won't regret it, CustomeR ServicE is number one in Fla.
6'9"Witha69
03-28-2009, 10:21 AM
I would suggest solid lower bushings. A little more $$ than poly or rubber but well worth it.
soonercrew
03-28-2009, 10:26 AM
would there be an advantage/disadvantage to going with coil-overs? or is this too far out of my budget?
Twentyover
03-28-2009, 10:53 AM
would there be an advantage/disadvantage to going with coil-overs? or is this too far out of my budget?
Going to guess good coilovers are going to chew through a pile of money.
I'm hoping for some feedback from Dave P. on the following discussion:
https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/showthread.php?t=52167
This should permit both height and crossweight adjustment, mitigate the need for coilovers (at least for me). Since it's only been a couple months, I was going to wait a bit longer before rattling Dave's cage to see if he's made any progress. I've also delayed ny front suspension rebuild until September, rather than spring, so I can afford to wait a while longer
HWYSTR
04-03-2009, 09:59 AM
The list of parts there for 2350 is a good deal, without a doubt. You may be able to save a little sourcing it all individually, but it's nice to be able to source it all at one place, especially if you need customer service.
I personally have a problem with using coil overs in a pro-tour application, since you don't get the desired performance from them.
The spring's diameter on a coil over is smaller compared to a typical coil, and the rate increase drastically after a certain point of compression, and isn't as linear as a conventional coil spring.
This at one point was explained to me like this: The diameter of a coil is like a lever, and the larger the lever is, the more gradual you can control the compression.
Since pro-tour cars are generally heavy compared to track cars, you have to run a higher rate spring, which only compounds the problem.
Unless you're on a serious weight-diet, for handling performance, I feel it's easier to tune a conventional coil spring car.
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Taylor1969
04-03-2009, 12:47 PM
I have the following:
Global West springs on all four corners - ~500
ATS Spindles - $700
C5 Brakes on the front - ~250 - autozone
LS1 brakes on the rear - ~250
Speed Tech Solid body bushings - ~120
GW Delalum (sp) bushings in the upper and lower control arms ~200
Subframe connectors - ~$300 - CALL FRANK!
1990 Iroc Steering BOx - ~$100 Autozone
Performs VERY well
twolfinger
04-03-2009, 04:20 PM
I have the following:
Global West springs on all four corners - ~500
ATS Spindles - $700
C5 Brakes on the front - ~250 - autozone
LS1 brakes on the rear - ~250
Speed Tech Solid body bushings - ~120
GW Delalum (sp) bushings in the upper and lower control arms ~200
Subframe connectors - ~$300 - CALL FRANK!
1990 Iroc Steering BOx - ~$100 Autozone
Performs VERY well
I see you guys talk about the upper and lower control arm bushings, but make no mention what you guys use for the rest of the front end for bushings, tie rod ends, etc.... stock rubber? Poly? does the handling improvement come from the control arms and the rest can be stock?
How about the IROC steering box, any conversion needed for the power steering hoses or rag joint?
Lowend
04-03-2009, 05:43 PM
I'll work back to front
Rear Springs - Global West L2 Cat5 springs (http://globalwest.net/1970-81_Camaro,Firebird_Rear_leaf_springs_and_bushings. htm) - $900
Rear Shocks - Hotchkis Spec'd Bilstiens $112/each
Subframe bracing - PTFB's Stop Flex Kit (http://www.pro-touringf-body.com/chassis_components.html) - $429
Upper A-arms: SC&C Stage 1 Kit (http://www.scandc.com/suspensions.htm) $479.90
Lower A-arms - stock with Global West Del-a-lum bushings (http://globalwest.net/1970-81_Camaro,Firebird_control_arm_bushings_and_shafts .htm) $156.00
Front Springs - Hotchkis (http://www.hotchkis.net/7081_gm_fbody_front_sport_coil_springs_2_drop_big_ block.html) ~$180
Sway Bar - Hotchkis Front & Rear set (http://www.hotchkis.net/7081_gm_fbody_sport_sway_bar_set.html) ~$600
Hard Parts - PTFB's Performance steering rebuilt kit (http://www.pro-touringf-body.com/chassis_components.html) $240
Well - I blew the budget a little at $3432, but my setup is more comprehensive than anyone else's
wickedred
04-06-2009, 10:19 AM
This is what I am looking at for my 70 Camaro Project:
70-81 Racing front end kit 2CS-835 $679.00
67-92 F-body 600 steering box kit 2CS-838 $559.00
67-81 Solid Body Bushings OCF-801 $93.00
70-81 Sub Frame Connectors 2CF-821 $169.00
70-81 Comp kit W/adjustable shocks 2CS-436 $739.00
Front and rear sway bars $379
All from Pro Touring F-Body.
Total $2618
I am not a open track racer or avid auto-x guy. I just like to have a well sorted car that is able to handle when pushed, yet be compliant enough for a 4-5 hour highway drive to a car show or two.
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