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Steve Chryssos
03-19-2009, 05:08 PM
Sorry boys and girls, I'm feeling wordy tonight!

Owned since 1981, the current iteration of my car was started in 1999 and "finished" in 2002. New York winters suck, so the car receives tweaks each year when the weather gets too cold and the plow trucks wreck the roads. So just picture if most every winter, your car looked like this:
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That picture is from the Bullrun Contest upgrade in 2007. Engine, drivetrain, rear suspension and cockpit were all pulled to allow for a number of reliability improvements as well as a new rear cage structure and fuel cell. What a fiasco! Two months worth of work crammed into 10 days for a contest that we only "might" have won. We didn't. The shoe-in seemed to be a bisexual swimsuit model with size XL bolt ons who also wrenches and races. Given that this was the Bullrun, she seemed like the perfect candidate. We didn't stand a chance. Instead, some gomer with a Datsun 240 Z wearing a Ferrari body kit won. Sweet car, but he pathetically referred to it as a Ferrari--non stop! Very annoying. His win was beyond mysterious. In the end, all we had was an upgraded car and a new friendship. And that's plenty.

Anyway, after 28 years of ownership, this car is chock full of stories like that. Theft and recovery, a near fatal wreck, Power Tour and countless "What seems to be the problem, officer?" stories--the list goes on and on. Wrenching on that car even spawned a business--Twist Machine. The American Dream. All the while, we'd put it together and take it apart. Rinse and repeat. Buddies and I.

The 2007 redo sparked a unique friendship. Jake Parrott shut down his then body shop business to help me prep the car for a contest with no guarantees. Looking back, we were practically strangers. Just fellow members of internet message boards called Lateral-g.net and pro-touring.com? Who does that? Bust ass to help a long distance acquaintance? That takes some character. Jake's effort and skills as a fabricator leave me forever in debt. Thanks Jake.

This years winter upgrades are a little late. I waved goodbye to the car last September after RTH4. I only saw it once when Jimmy Mulvey and I went up to Maine to work on THE NEW CAR. ;) In two years, Jake's body shop business has evolved into Jake's Rod Shop (http://www.jakesrodshop.com). There's a wait list if you want in. We've both been too busy to work on my car and too busy to care.

But spring is in the air. Leaf springs, that is. They gotta go. Jake's Rod Shop will be installing a Jake's Rod Shop Torque Arm rear suspension system and shocks. The gi-normously humungous stainless steel fuel cell, custom built by another good friend John Parsons, will be replaced with a normal sized cell. Gotta make room for the panhard bar. We'll also replace the eight year old, rock hard Nitto NT555 tires, with some Toyo R888's.

The upgrades will be short and sweet. I'll chronicle the suspension swap here. Don't expect any wow-wee show car stuff, this car has always been rough around the edges. I like it that way. At a time when our country seems to be run by slick barbarians (congress), I thought I'd share a little humanity--car guy style--while bragging on a guy who won't brag about himself. Here's some teardown pix. Keep that camera handy Jake!!


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The DSE 3" leaf springs sit perfect. But you give up some ride quality to get the stance. With the torque arm, I'll have it all.

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Little by little I get rid of almost 30 years of amateur mods. These muffler hangers are an embarrassment. Somehow they never failed.

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Jake has removed the Competition Engineering upper shock crossmember and the front brace of my custom cell mount. The CE shock crossmember has been in place since the late 80's--long before DSE made a much better design. Exhaust clearance was never quite right with this crossmember. And the 9" would just kiss it on bump. Not enough to do damage, but enough to make a loud noise. BANG! More than anything, I will be glad to get rid of this crossmember. It simply was never designed for lowered cars. BANG!

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The Moser 9" rear will stay. So will the Baer 12" brakes with PBR calipers. Hey! In Y2K, these were the hot setup! Yes, my brake line tabs are hose clamped in place. Hopefully my welding fairy will tack them in place.
Thanks for looking,
/Steevo

Joey_H
03-19-2009, 06:49 PM
Very cool! I'm looking forward to seeing the new updates!

arai
03-19-2009, 07:49 PM
great story behind the updates! I enjoyed reading that and it made me chuckle!! :)

srh3trinity
03-19-2009, 07:58 PM
Looking forward to watching the updates happen. This car pretty much defined pro-touring to me. The torque arm is just going to make it better.

Mr.VENGEANCE
03-19-2009, 08:05 PM
word up Steveo

now get them lights finished too!

hahaha

JEFFTATE
03-20-2009, 05:12 AM
Nice upgrades Steevo .
Jake is good guy.
He does good work.

The torque-arm rear suspension from Jake and the Apex Pro front suspension from Jake are the ..."shizzle".
Jake does need somebody to brag on him , because he won't do it himself.
He deserves it..

David Sloan
03-20-2009, 05:13 AM
Looking good Steveo
Jake http://www.jakesrodshop.com/ has been great to work with for me as well. I have his front an rear suspension going in our shop car.
Could not be happier!
Thanks for sharing, Keep them pics coming!!

1969CamaroRS
03-20-2009, 07:09 AM
Love seeing the updates Keep the pics and background story coming!

slowcamaro
03-20-2009, 07:10 AM
Careful with those aluminum floor jacks, If they're the craftsman variety they have a tendency to fail out of warranty(1 year). Mine just started leaking fluid like crazy, it lasted almost 3 years.

jackfrost
03-20-2009, 10:07 AM
This car pretty much defined pro-touring to me.

same here.

this car has one of the best paint schemes of all time. thanks for the updates.

Steve68
03-20-2009, 01:56 PM
Careful with those aluminum floor jacks, If they're the craftsman variety they have a tendency to fail out of warranty(1 year). Mine just started leaking fluid like crazy, it lasted almost 3 years.


Threw mine away 4 months ago, wouldn't hold pressure, another fine Craftsman Chinese product,


Steevo kept the updates coming,

Damn True
03-20-2009, 02:14 PM
Maybe they used to be made better. I have a craftsman jack that is 15yrs old and it just recently began to seep.

Ralph LoGrasso
03-20-2009, 02:20 PM
Very cool, Steevo! I can't wait to see the lastest iteration out on the road.

Chad-1stGen
03-20-2009, 02:22 PM
Sweet. You should get "wordy" more often. These kinds of stories make fun build up threads awesome!

XLexusTech
03-20-2009, 02:58 PM
I think their are a few Jakes projects going on. I had mine in Queue before the layoff.....Anyone know what color Destroyer is going to be...?

Look out competition here comes the Pain from Maine....

Ron S
03-20-2009, 04:33 PM
I think that car faired amazingly well with time.Its still not really outdated,it goes to show that good taste never goes out of style.Some upgrades are probably in order,but I don't think I would ever change the paint scheme.Its nice to see you showing the old girl some love,look forward to watching the upgrades.Ron

neki67
03-21-2009, 03:28 AM
Sweet. You should get "wordy" more often. These kinds of stories make fun build up threads awesome!

I totally agree. And thank God for being down to earth!

CliffS
03-21-2009, 09:27 AM
LOVE that car!!!

zbugger
03-21-2009, 09:36 AM
Awesome Steve. I can't wait to see it on the road again and what you think of it.

Steve Chryssos
03-23-2009, 02:02 PM
Ralph's back! Ralph's back! What's up? How'z things? Call me sometime.

trapin
03-23-2009, 02:39 PM
Ralph's been back a couple weeks now. He's been hiding in the Moderator forum.

Steve this seems like a natural progression for your car. It's the one Camaro who's theme I identified with the closest (function over form). It's why I did spray-on bedliner on my undercarriage instead of painting it and told the painter to just match the quality on my 2002 Silverado. It's why I left the radio and air conditioner out as well.

As long as it's presentable, it's fast and it's fun I ain't gonna sweat the small stuff.

Keep the pics coming on this one. I am very interested to see how the Torque Arm system plays out.

seekins
03-23-2009, 09:52 PM
Jakes been more than helpfull with my build. I should have front and rear suspenssion from him shortly...Now i just got to send him some parts :idea:

So wheres the pictures of the rear suspenssion? I need to know what im getting into...

David Sloan
03-24-2009, 03:43 AM
Jakes been more than helpfull with my build. I should have front and rear suspenssion from him shortly...Now i just got to send him some parts :idea:

So wheres the pictures of the rear suspenssion? I need to know what im getting into...

Here's a link to some pics i took of the one going in The Killer Orange Camaro.
http://www.roadkillerkustoms.com/projects/current-projects

Hope this helps

Sorry Stevo did not mean to take a way from your updates.

Steve Chryssos
05-30-2009, 07:23 AM
Alright! It's almost done. Getting ready for the MSC. The Jake's Rod Shop Apex Pro-TA rear suspension system is in place. As promised, the stock 41 year old floorpan is 100% intact--no cutting whatsoever. And I have full length tailpipes that cap off a nicely tucked exhaust system. My particular installation included a one-off fuel cell that is not relevant to any other installation. The stainless steel cell was originally built for me by John Parsons. Jake had to shorten it to make room for the rear crossmember.

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The main crossmember locates the torque arm. It comes fully welded and notched for exhaust clearance.

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The rear crossmember accepts Jake's custom valved Bilstein absorbers as well as the panhard bar. Yes, there's room for tailpipes.

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The torque arm bolts to brackets welded to the axle housing. There are 3 links. The torque arm and the two outer links.

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Jake's Rod Shop is the only brand that includes this serrated/block panhard bar adjuster. Ordinary panhard bars need to be disassembled. With this design, just loosen the hardware to adjust the height.

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Here's a decent shot of the the rear link mounts. What you can't see is the TA brace that bolts to the 9" center section. AKA pumpkin; AKA ham; AKA pig. To make the most of geometry, end link brackets weld to the axle housing.

Steve Chryssos
05-30-2009, 07:24 AM
More:
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The Apex Pro-TA lets you tuck a full length exhaust system. To save time and money, my old Flowmaster 3" system has been pieced back together. Over the winter, I plan to do custom headers and an oval tube 3.5" exhaust system.

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A lot of rear suspension systems do not allow room for tailpipes leaving you SOL on noise reduction. Tailpipes are critical for me. I refuse to choke on fumes.

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This poor fuel cell has been hacked and tweaked more times than I care to remember. Jake shortened it front to back to make room for the rear crossmember.

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Yes, the cell will be painted. But never mind that. Check out the custom trunk pan around the cell. Jake's Rod Shop built the sheetmetal and framework from scratch and then finished it with filler and schultz paint.

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Jake's out there hammering my car right now. I'm not. With leaf springs, the car used to suffer from severe wheel hop and a driveline vibration at triple digit speeds. Early reports indicate that both issues have been resolved. I can't wait to drive it.

rlplive
05-30-2009, 01:08 PM
Awesome. Thanks for all the pics. Jake incredible looking products.

1969CamaroRS
05-30-2009, 01:29 PM
Awesome pics, love the updates! I bet you can't wait to drive it :yum:

CRead01
05-30-2009, 03:34 PM
this is one of my favorite pro touring car's. can't wait to see it done. Awesome work so far.

Ron S
05-30-2009, 05:07 PM
I've always loved this car,glad to see it getting some TLC.That is a crazy looking torque arm,should 60 foot really well.Keep up the good work Jake. Ron

Steve Chryssos
06-01-2009, 06:23 AM
Thanks everyone. Yeah, it deserves some love. Rear suspension was that last major system that needed to be addressed. So it's a huge personal milestone for me and that car.

parsonsj
06-01-2009, 08:02 AM
Steve,

Looks great. Jake's setup looks nicely engineered. I'm looking forward to real road reports!

jp

ps. I'm amazed that old fuel cell is still hanging in there. Glad it is still providing service. :)

Shiro666
06-01-2009, 08:16 AM
I love this car!

My '67 is at Jake's right now. Your old DSE leaf's are now on my car. I feel really special!

Steve Chryssos
06-01-2009, 03:00 PM
Steve,

Looks great. Jake's setup looks nicely engineered. I'm looking forward to real road reports!

jp

ps. I'm amazed that old fuel cell is still hanging in there. Glad it is still providing service. :)

Before the slice and dice, I'll bet it weighed 45 pounds--being heavy gauge stainless steel. We originally had it bolted to the trunk pan. Over time, it started to pull thru the sheetmetal, so Jake built the cage structure--twice now. Somehow that tank keeps living on. I like it. If it ever gets retired, I'm hanging it on a wall.

Steve Chryssos
06-01-2009, 03:01 PM
I love this car!

My '67 is at Jake's right now. Your old DSE leaf's are now on my car. I feel really special!

Thanks. That's awesome. Those springs sit perrrfect. They might even be the first ever set of DSE 3" drop springs. Enjoy them!

Damn True
06-01-2009, 03:17 PM
Looks great Steve-O. I'm jealous!!!

Ralph LoGrasso
06-01-2009, 03:33 PM
Bithcin'! I can't wait to see the O.G. Streetfighter out cruising the Island!

UNmolestedTA
06-01-2009, 04:54 PM
Awesome car! Your car has been my inspiration for my 67.

Jim Nilsen
06-01-2009, 09:59 PM
The look of the torque arm is awesome.

The stress on the body of the car is completely different without leaf springs, I wonder what new noises if any you will hear?

It looks great and if the wheelhop and high speed vibration is gone it will be time to celebrate for sure.

:cheers:

David Pozzi
06-09-2009, 01:06 PM
I see the lower shock mount bolt is not supported very well, is this the "real" version or a mockup? If it's the real one I'd beef it up or that bolt is sure to bend.
David

XLexusTech
06-09-2009, 01:24 PM
I see the lower shock mount bolt is not supported very well, is this the "real" version or a mockup? If it's the real one I'd beef it up or that bolt is sure to bend.
David

I believe the answer to that is on another thread but here it is copied form Lateral g

"custom cnc mounts are on the way(i have over 4k street miles on my test car, with over 700 laps between nhms,watkins glen and mt. tremblant circuits with no issue), but what you dont see is the 1/2 thick plate the the single shear lower shock mounts bolts into behind the trailing arm bracket. btw the spacer is 1.375 long"
"Jake"

Mr.VENGEANCE
06-09-2009, 01:37 PM
definite OG status..