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2yellow69
02-27-2009, 05:06 PM
Thought you guys would dig this!

http://shock.military.com/Shock/videos.do?displayContent=185525&page=3

Matt

Tom 72RS/SS
02-27-2009, 07:55 PM
That guy has nerves of steel.
Did anyone watching this hear the Top Gun movie theme in their head besides me? LOL.

bigvegan
02-27-2009, 08:05 PM
if only our cars could do this!

I think you'll find that several of the members of this forum have cars that are quite capable of smoking excessively and stalling without warning.

:rotfl:

Mathius
02-27-2009, 08:47 PM
I think you'll find that several of the members of this forum have cars that are quite capable of smoking excessively and stalling without warning.

:rotfl:

I know there's a company that makes a solution that makes your exhaust smell like certain scents, so there's almost certainly to be a company that makes colored smoke come out of your exhaust.

Mathius

OHCbird
02-27-2009, 10:58 PM
Ah, the joys of thrust-vectoring...and a healthy set of forward canards. The one manuever is called a "Cobra-head", and it looks badass, but has very little tactical use (unless he's trying to show-off before schwacking some lesser A/C).

That plane is actually pretty damn big as well! The Su-30MK isn't exactly svelte, being slightly larger than the F-15E.

2yellow69
02-28-2009, 08:45 AM
If I was a fighter pilot, I would not want to get into a dogfight with that guy in that aircraft!!!

Yes the flat spin reminded me of Top Gun.

Is the "Cobra-head" at about 1 minute into the video?

OHCbird
03-01-2009, 07:07 PM
It's actually at the very beginning- a Cobrahead is done from level flight, pulling the nose up hard while slipping the stern of the A/C (vice trying to gain lots of altitude). The thrust vectoring is used to stabilize the nose high / tail down attitude while it goes into stall, then the thrust is used to push the nose back over. This would be akin to 'putting on the brakes'. Looks cool, and might work once, but the energy lost would put you into a very bad situation real quick (energy state is everything in a dogfight). In other words, you're cannon and missle-fodder if the manuever doesn't work!

CarlC
03-01-2009, 07:21 PM
It may look cool, but in modern aerial combat I'd much rather be in the plane that cannot be detected except by the Mk1 eyeball. By that time, goodbye SU-30.

I would not sell the F22 one bit short of anything flying today in any situation with the right pilot on board. I doubt the Air Force is about to show off to anyone what it can really do.

OHCbird
03-02-2009, 02:37 PM
Spot on Carl.

In real dogfighting (just short of actually firing), the F22 walked all over every other competitor, including some of the newest fighters of the world. It's ability to hit opponents from afar is well documented & the supercruise, hidden missiles, and thrust vectoring make for an outstanding (albeit VERY expensive) package. The Su-series were poised to be the dominant A/C on paper, but the F22 put the brakes on that.