typo or scam

[CliffS]

On ebay: 72 Challanger with viper V10:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Dodge-Challenger-Pro-Touring-Viper-Powered-Fully-Restored_W0QQitemZ160311923379QQcmdZViewItemQQptZU S_Cars_Trucks?hash=item160311923379&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A317%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1308

The Buy It Now Price is 6000 . For any question or information regarding the car please contact me ONLY at : [email protected] . Any other e-mail will be ignored.

[Flash68]

Scam.

Googlemail is a common scam email address domain. And that's just one of many red flags here...

[Restomod]

Scam, the engine is worth more than that! As Always "if it sounds to good to be true ...it is" !

[68Formula]

Gee, whoever bought it last month from the guy in CA, must be desperate to dump it at a loss of $72k. I guess on the bright side, he didn't have to retake any of the pictures, he just used the one from the last ebay seller.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&viewitemdesc=&seller=paulpc2003&ebaydesc=1&js=e583%3A1&item=120351249528,120345485373&t=0&s1=2&viewitem=&hr=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Febaymotors%2Fws%2Fe BayISAPI.dll%3FViewItem

"any other email will be ignored", yeah because your using a stolen, legitimate ebay account. (feedback over 200 looks great, but no activity in 10 months.) Someone was on a "phishing" trip.

[Mr.VENGEANCE]

count Scamula... blood sucker.

[HsvToolFool]

I run across these scam auctions almost daily in the 1968 Chargers. Just use the "Report this item" link at the bottom of each listing's page. Ebay usually deletes the listing within 6 to 12 hours. I just reported this scam so it should be gone soon.

Here's some red flags for Ebay fraud...

Never buy from someone who sets the "Buy It Now" ridiculously low. Duh. You will win the lottery before you stumble on a vengeful wife selling her lying, cheatin' husband's 1971 Hemi Cuda for $6K.
Never buy from someone who uses Gmail, Googlemail, HotMail, etc. These are free email providers which allows total anonymity for the scammer. No way to trace their identity via an Internet Service Provider.
Never buy from someone who refuses to provide a home phone number and permanent home address. Pre-paid cell phones can still be obtained anonymously via a fake ID.
Never buy from someone who insists on a wire transfer and won't accept personal checks or a certified bank check.
Never buy from someone who requests that you call them directly rather than bid on the item. They're trying to establish contact outside ebay to avoid the possibility of Federal mail-fraud charges. These listings usually contain a large, fuzzy JPEG image presenting the scam offer rather than using normal text to descibe the item. This is so that Ebay can't automatically scan the listing text for obvious seller violations (like asking you not to bid and call instead).
Never buy from someone who insists on a $500 deposit which must be received within 24 hours of the auction close. Even if the listing is legit, deposits are an assinine requirement. You will pay in cash when you go to inspect and pick up the car within a week.
Always contact the seller via phone or in person well before the auction ends. Get a feel for the seller. Don't buy from a vauge, clueless, or inconsiderate person. How they answer questions usually tells you everything you need to know about their character. If you ask "Does the top leak" and the answer is a Clinton-esque "Not that I know of", then that always translates into "The top definitely leaks." Is the seller even a car enthusiast? Why did they own a 1972 Challenger if they're not a Mopar fan? If they are a Mopar fan, do they know their stuff? If not, then why would you expect the description to be accurate and their asking price to be fair marker value?

Of course, sellers can be scammed too...

If the buyer sends a money order or check of any type, do not release your property until the check clears. If the sales is overseas, wait at least 30 to 60 days before shipping. For normal checks, wait at least 15 days and get your bank manager's assurance the check has indeed cleared and cannot be a fake.
If the buyer sends more money than the sale price and requests you cash the check or money order and send the extra back as a wire transfer, don't bother depositing it. It's a fake check. Contact the FBI immediately and relist your item. This is a minor variation of the old Nigerian email fraud.
Can anyone think of other tips and rules?

[icebird84]

Current bid: US $7,100.00

[Van B]

I disagree with a couple of things in the previous post by tool fool. First of all, I will insist on a wire transfer most times because cashiers checks can be faked. Most buyers will not want to wait 7-14 days to pick up the car if they have given you a cashier's check. However, this is normally after I have talked to the buyer over the phone.

Also, some sort of deposit shows me that the buyer is serious. I don't put a car on ebay so a guy can be the high bidder and then take a week to decide if he wants it, wasting my time. I want to know it is sold, and if it does not end up getting sold, at least I have his deposit money to pay the cost of relisting it and to compensate me for wasting my time.

[icebird84]

I goggle the vin and found this
http://musclecarscene.com/for-sale/Dodge-Challenger-1972-dodge-challenger-viper_120345485373.html

Price:$85,000

[MarkM66]

i disagree with a couple of things in the previous post by tool fool. First of all, i will insist on a wire transfer most times because cashiers checks can be faked. Most buyers will not want to wait 7-14 days to pick up the car if they have given you a cashier's check. However, this is normally after i have talked to the buyer over the phone.

Also, some sort of deposit shows me that the buyer is serious. I don't put a car on ebay so a guy can be the high bidder and then take a week to decide if he wants it, wasting my time. I want to know it is sold, and if it does not end up getting sold, at least i have his deposit money to pay the cost of relisting it and to compensate me for wasting my time.

++1

[icebird84]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120345485373&viewitem= https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2006/01/s-1.gif
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[67 ls1 vert]

It's funny how the current listing that is for sale has the license plate covered up so you cant read it. On the old listing you can see it. Maybe someone should turn it in using the license number to see where he/or she lives and bust them.

[icebird84]

It's funny how the current listing that is for sale has the license plate covered up so you cant read it. On the old listing you can see it. Maybe someone should turn it in using the license number to see where he/or she lives and bust them.

to quote jay leno "i love stupid criminals"

[icebird84]

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif
"The seller ended this listing early because of an error in the listing."

[68Formula]

It's funny how the current listing that is for sale has the license plate covered up so you cant read it. On the old listing you can see it. Maybe someone should turn it in using the license number to see where he/or she lives and bust them.

If I understand you right, you're saying bust the guy that has the license plate? I wouldn't. The original lister with the plate was a legitamite seller, hence a price that reflected the amount of money it would cost to build such a vehicle. Note the original seller listed the car for sale in CA. The new ad that was pulled listed it in WA.

The ad that was pulled was from a different ebay account user (I compared them before the ad was pulled). And it was most likely a stolen account from a legitimate ebayer as judged by the 200+ positive responses, yet prior to listing a car, there was no ebay activity since March 2008 by the seller. This happens quite a bit, where somehow a crook either by phishing or other means obtains access to basically dead user accounts. This way he has credibility because of lots of transactions (unlike bogus accounts where people buy 5-15 items in low dollar amounts to establish a transaction history).

Once you suspect an ad, it possible to look at enough details such as above to really see where the stuff doesn't add up.

[HsvToolFool]

First of all, I will insist on a wire transfer most times because cashiers checks can be faked.

So can postal money orders and personal checks. They all must be treated the same way by the seller. Wait for them to clear and be totally verified by the banking system before releasing the goods.

There is no paper trail with wire transfers. The seller doesn't need an ID to cash it, and the bank account disappears the day after the funds are received. That's why all scammers insist on wire transfers. It's a big red flag for me.


Most buyers will not want to wait 7-14 days to pick up the car if they have given you a cashier's check.

Buyers in a hurry must show up with cash. But you should never be in a hurry when buying a car.


I want to know it is sold, and if it does not end up getting sold, at least I have his deposit money to pay the cost of relisting it and to compensate me for wasting my time.

The proper punishment for deadbeat bidders is to receive negative ratings and eventually be banned from Ebay.

How much does it cost to list a car on Ebay when it doesn't sell? Funny how the depoits are always hundreds and even thousands of dollars. No one's "time and effort" is worth that much compensation.

Finally, you only need to relist when the car wasn't going to sell anyway. You have the option to offer the car to the next bidder and so forth. If the top three or four bidders pass, then the auction was DOA anyway.

[Van B]

So can postal money orders and personal checks. They all must be treated the same way by the seller. Wait for them to clear and be totally verified by the banking system before releasing the goods.

There is no paper trail with wire transfers. The seller doesn't need an ID to cash it, and the bank account disappears the day after the funds are received. That's why all scammers insist on wire transfers. It's a big red flag for me.



Buyers in a hurry must show up with cash. But you should never be in a hurry when buying a car.



The proper punishment for deadbeat bidders is to receive negative ratings and eventually be banned from Ebay.

How much does it cost to list a car on Ebay when it doesn't sell? Funny how the depoits are always hundreds and even thousands of dollars. No one's "time and effort" is worth that much compensation.

Finally, you only need to relist when the car wasn't going to sell anyway. You have the option to offer the car to the next bidder and so forth. If the top three or four bidders pass, then the auction was DOA anyway.

You must not have had a deadbeat bidder lately. Ebay won't let you leave negative feedback on someone. You have to call it positive and rip them on the comments.

Relisting takes another week and then you only get the credit if it does not sell. What are the odds that the guy who was 2nd place bidder will not bid on a relist because he thinks the seller was playing games trying to get him to bid more?

Just more reasons why I use ebay less and less.

[icebird84]

this more likely US $225,000.00 buy it now
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-Trucks___70-Dodge-Challenger-V10-585hp-Mopar-Perf-Show-Car_W0QQitemZ170297431467QQddnZCarsQ20Q26Q20Trucks QQddiZ2282QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=i tem170297431467&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A317%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

[BossaNova]

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