We tested a car today that I think you guys will like...

[Steve1968LS2]

This thing may not be street legal but it is BAD ASS!

We did skidpad and slalom testing.. the numbers were off the charts.

We also did most of a photoshoot. Unfortunatly we were getting crazy winds at California Speedway (70-80mph) so we couldn't finish the shoot. I plan on going up to NorCal to get the glamor shots.

The Camaro has a 303 cui engine and all the best race parts. It was specifically built for the track and auto-x events. A very cool ride and the guys that brought it down were super cool. Unfortunatly the winds caused the SCCA to cancel the auto-x event this weekend.

Look for the full feature and testing results in an upcoming issue of Camaro Performers.

Teaser shot:
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif

[go-fish]

Looks like it'll be a good article. I will enjoy reading it I'm sure.
I would love to see it race against other vintage road racers like the 77 Swede Savage Challenger and the Dan Gurney AAR 'cuda.

I wonder if it will be at Coronado Speed Festival at NAS North Island (Saint Diago) this October.
Can you ask what events they have in mind when you go up?

[James OLC]

Simply awesome!

[shmoov69]

That pic of the car being built while it was in primer is about the meanest looking Camaro evar!
Can't wait to see the feature!

[syborg tt]

Awesome !!!!!

[CptKlutz]

Very, very, VERY nice! Being a Camaro aside... :hah:

[Mr.VENGEANCE]

now THAT car is the one that started it all for ME.

[CarlC]

Very nice car!

So how fast is it going? Check out the front spoiler. Looks like a few more braces are in order..... Perhaps blocking off the primary grill area creates more high-pressure down low.

[buickfunnycar.com]

Very nice car!

So how fast is it going? Check out the front spoiler. Looks like a few more braces are in order..... Perhaps blocking off the primary grill area creates more high-pressure down low.

LOL...looks like it's about to break off

[Bill Howell]

Very, very, VERY nice! Being a Camaro aside... :hah:


I like this guy.........lol

[Damn True]

Very nice car!

Perhaps blocking off the primary grill area creates more high-pressure down low.

Yup.

[MuscleRodz]

Is this the camaro that was on racehome.com?

[David Pozzi]

The owner is Milt, I took this with my camera phone at Alameda Autox last summer, sorry for the poor quality.
Great car! Steve, talk to Mary about action shots, she got some good ones of it at this event.
David

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif (http://s117.photobucket.com/albums/o71/davidpozzi/Autocross/?action=view&current=08-23-08_1503.flv)

[69Nova]

Defintly one of my favorites.

Also I'm pretty sure CP is the coolest autox class ever.

[Mr.VENGEANCE]

Holy shi t that VIDEO!

more pics!

[Vegas69]

That thing hauls!!

[TonyHuntimer]

Is this the camaro that was on racehome.com?

Yep! One in the same. :)

I wish I could have been there. :(

You guys have all the fun!

Tony Huntimer
RaceHome.com

[Steve1968LS2]

Yep! One in the same. :)

I wish I could have been there. :(

You guys have all the fun!

Tony Huntimer
RaceHome.com

Trust me.. it wasn't THAT fun when the wind got crazy...

[Mr.VENGEANCE]

Man what kind of wind are you guys getting over there?.. must be like RottwiellerTasmanianPitbull wind out there..

[BonzoHansen]

Neat car. Wasn't it in a mag last year?

[TonyHuntimer]

Neat car. Wasn't it in a mag last year?

There was a small single picture of it in PHR about 18 months ago and the same pic made it in Camaro Performers about 12 months ago. Why do you ask? Have you seen too much of it already?

Tony Huntimer
RaceHome.com

[David Pozzi]

Very nice car!

So how fast is it going? Check out the front spoiler. Looks like a few more braces are in order..... Perhaps blocking off the primary grill area creates more high-pressure down low.

It's that way from hitting autocross cones at high speed. I saw a guy destroy a fiberglass fender once by hitting a huge cone about 2 feet tall at high speed, the fender was GONE! It was a little car, an MG.
David

[BonzoHansen]

No, just checking my memory :)

[nickdoe6]

Yep! One in the same. :)

I wish I could have been there. :(

You guys have all the fun!

Tony Huntimer
RaceHome.com

Tony, it really wasn't as fun as it could have been. The wind was screaming at about 60-70mph at times. It was one of the worst Santa Ana wind conditions I've seen in a long time.
If the car had been local to us we would have re-scheduled for another time, but since Milt and the guys came a good distance, we decided to do what we could.
The testing went great, but we weren't able to get all the photos we needed.

Nick

[TonyHuntimer]

That's one of many reasons...I mean cars...you should come up here to San Jose for. :)

Tony Huntimer
RaceHome.com

[John McIntire]

Damn! 303ci? That car sure sounds healthy in that video of yours Dave! I'd like to see more of it! Nice car!

[Steve1968LS2]

That's one of many reasons...I mean cars...you should come up here to San Jose for. :)

Tony Huntimer
RaceHome.com

I will be up there around the first of Feb to bring Penny over to the Pozzi's shop for a little "work".

I figured I could finish the shoot on Milt's Camaro then. Wanna help?

That car FLEW through the cones. It's a very cool purpose built car. Sucks for them that they cancelled the autocross for this weekend. That's a long haul.

[Steve1968LS2]

Damn! 303ci? That car sure sounds healthy in that video of yours Dave! I'd like to see more of it! Nice car!


We shot lots of vid of the car using our little GoPro camera. We will see what we can put together. And yea, that car sounds pretty wicked.

[LowBuckX]

INterested in Bore stroke and Generation of engine.... Shift point also maybe.... sounds killer

[zbugger]

I will be up there around the first of Feb to bring Penny over to the Pozzi's shop for a little "work".
Looks like I gotta talk to Dave and Mary about going down there for dinner...

[Lowend]

It's a 1st gen SBC with a carb. It's got a pretty long stroke for it's combo, it's not a DZ302 style engine.

Way back when I worked for Goodies (then Speed Merchant) I saw the car progress. It was a 7+ year process to build and literally started as a bare rear clip. I did some early design work and hunted down a lot of "stuff" for that car and LOVE IT more than any that I own.

It actually moved under its own power (for more than a few feet) at one of the private auto-x's my car club puts on

How it first stated coming together
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif (http://img127.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sclfupcq7.jpg)

[LowBuckX]

Long stroke small bore now Im very interested at the specs.


It's a 1st gen SBC with a carb. It's got a pretty long stroke for it's combo, it's not a DZ302 style engine.

Way back when I worked for Goodies (then Speed Merchant) I saw the car progress. It was a 7+ year process to build and literally started as a bare rear clip. I did some early design work and hunted down a lot of "stuff" for that car and LOVE IT more than any that I own.

It actually moved under its own power (for more than a few feet) at one of the private auto-x's my car club puts on

How it first stated coming together
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif (http://img127.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sclfupcq7.jpg)

[1971CHEVELLE]

Awesome........

[buickfunnycar.com]

Looks like I gotta talk to Dave and Mary about going down there for dinner...

count me in on that action...:yum:...would be great to finally meet Steve and check out Penny first hand.

[David Pozzi]

We are gonna charge an admission fee... :)

[SicMonte]

can you put up the pics of this car when it was in primer???

[mpozzi]

Long stroke small bore now Im very interested at the specs.

We'll give you specs if you promise to change your avatar ... :barf:.

Cheers,
Mary Pozzi

[Mr.VENGEANCE]

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/01/canihasbrainzpeaze-1.jpg

[Steve1968LS2]

We are gonna charge an admission fee... :)

lol.. bill it as a real e-ticket ride..

[Lowend]

It's been a really long time (6 years) but I seem to recall it being ~3.9 bore x ~3.2 stroke; but I don't remeber exactly.

[6'9"Witha69]

Man what kind of wind are you guys getting over there?.. must be like RottwiellerTasmanianPitbull wind out there..
The kind that sound like a mack truck is hitting your house every few minutes. I live a few miles North of where they were shooting and can testify as to the winds.

[mpozzi]

lol.. bill it as a real e-ticket ride..

Hell no ... we're gonna sell actual rides when our "work" gets tested at a local autocross February 22nd. $$$ x 8 (each driver gets four runs). Depending on entries and daylight, there's usually fun runs at the end of the event too ...

Can Penny get here by next weekend?? There's another event on February 1st ...

I see Steve making some coin here!!

Cheers,
Mary Pozzi

[Steve1968LS2]

Hell no ... we're gonna sell actual rides when our "work" gets tested at a local autocross February 22nd. $$$ x 8 (each driver gets four runs). Depending on entries and daylight, there's usually fun runs at the end of the event too ...

Can Penny get here by next weekend?? There's another event on February 1st ...

I see Steve making some coin here!!

Cheers,
Mary Pozzi

Nope by next weekend.. but I'm "All In" for the Feb 22nd deal. After that she can come home and get ready for the Costa Mesa auto-x Goodguys.

[JEFFTATE]

That car rules !

[Ron S]

Wow,that car has me fighting off my A.D.D. once again.I may have to get off my Mustang and start working on my Camaro until I get bored with it.LOL Man,early purpose built race cars are cool.Ron

[Goodies1]

INterested in Bore stroke and Generation of engine.... Shift point also maybe.... sounds killer
The bore and stroke are B=3.95" and S=3.150". The engine is based of a non-siemeesed bore BowTie block, MSD crank trigger ignition has a 8K rpm chip in it! I built it for as much torque as possible under the cubic inch limitations. Its 13 to 1 comp. ratio, small (200cc) runner heads flowed 313cfm @ .600". Has cam drive dry sump and Jesel belt drive roller cam (secret spec's) it made just shy of 600hp on the dyno.

[mpozzi]

Nope by next weekend.. but I'm "All In" for the Feb 22nd deal. After that she can come home and get ready for the Costa Mesa auto-x Goodguys.

No worries, Steve and it was a hopeful thought. Dave and I plan on also coming down for Goodguys in March (Costa Mesa) with the '73. You might think about coming up for the autocross on 2/22 to get some seat time in the new, improved, and handling-happy Penny.

I'll never get tired of driving that car ...

Cheers,
Mary Pozzi

[zbugger]

count me in on that action...:yum:...would be great to finally meet Steve and check out Penny first hand.
I'm in it for Dave, Mary, and Penny. Steve, well, meh.... I guess he's cool....



The bore and stroke are B=3.95" and S=3.150". The engine is based of a non-siemeesed bore BowTie block, MSD crank trigger ignition has a 8K rpm chip in it! I built it for as much torque as possible under the cubic inch limitations. Its 13 to 1 comp. ratio, small (200cc) runner heads flowed 313cfm @ .600". Has cam drive dry sump and Jesel belt drive roller cam (secret spec's) it made just shy of 600hp on the dyno.

Hey Paul. How's it going? I wish I could have heard that monster on the dyno.

[86Cutlass383SR]

180 degree headers.......... nice!

[Steve1968LS2]

No worries, Steve and it was a hopeful thought. Dave and I plan on also coming down for Goodguys in March (Costa Mesa) with the '73. You might think about coming up for the autocross on 2/22 to get some seat time in the new, improved, and handling-happy Penny.

I'll never get tired of driving that car ...

Cheers,
Mary Pozzi

I expect auto-x lessons :)

Oh, we are a go on that auto-x story.. in fact I might join you.

[mpozzi]

I expect auto-x lessons :)

Oh, we are a go on that auto-x story.. in fact I might join you.

YIKES!!! You reminded me on that and I just registered ... you should too if you want to go.

And definitely a yes for autocross lessons but you're already quick around the cones.

Depending on tires, I might have to take the Shelby ... have no tires for the Camaro at present.

Cheers,
Mary Pozzi

[LowBuckX]

The bore and stroke are B=3.95" and S=3.150". The engine is based of a non-siemeesed bore BowTie block, MSD crank trigger ignition has a 8K rpm chip in it! I built it for as much torque as possible under the cubic inch limitations. Its 13 to 1 comp. ratio, small (200cc) runner heads flowed 313cfm @ .600". Has cam drive dry sump and Jesel belt drive roller cam (secret spec's) it made just shy of 600hp on the dyno.
Thats awsome... Thanks.

[Lowend]

FYI - "Goodies1" is Paul the GM of Goodies Speed Shop (http://www.goodies-speedshop.com/) - the mad-scientist behind this car.
He was also built Carl Chicca's 69 Camaro and Joe Sura's Tri-power F/I GTO (http://www.racehome.com/images/tripowerincar.jpg)

Get to know this man..

[steemin]

Very, very, VERY nice! Being a Camaro aside... :hah:

Hey at least it is painted in Ford GT40 colors:enguard:

very cool car!!!:yum:

Scott

[Lowend]

It's actually Gulf Porsche 917's layout

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[TonyHuntimer]

I always had this in my head...
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:)
Tony Huntimer
RaceHome.com

[69Nova]

Yeah I think the strip is more like the Fords.

[Steve1968LS2]

Hey at least it is painted in Ford GT40 colors:enguard:

very cool car!!!:yum:

Scott

Don't say that to the owner.. lol

It's painted in the GULF colors...

[TonyHuntimer]

Don't say that to the owner.. lol

It's painted in the GULF colors...

You're right. They are Gulf colors, not Porsche or Ford. :)

Tony Huntimer
RaceHome.com

[Memphis]

When does this issue come out? I need to find a place around here to get it, the borders here doesn't seem to have a bigger selection of car mags than Wal Mart lol.

[454bug]

These are all the different pictures I've collected of this car over the last year... It is definitely one of my all time favorites and has been a great inspiration for the direction I am going with my bug!

Tony took some REALLY nice shots of the car!

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/01/GoodiesCamaro-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/01/dynowestcamaro3-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/01/dynowestcamaro2-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/01/dynowestcamaro1-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/01/sclfdown-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/01/sclfcrop-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/01/sclfup-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/01/dynowestcamaro-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/01/bloggoodiescamaroapart2-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/01/bloggoodiescamaroapart-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/01/blogcamaroondyno-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/01/bloggulfcamaroengine-1.jpg

[454bug]

Here's a few more...

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/01/bloggulfcamaroautox-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/01/dscn1591asr0-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/01/gulfcamaro1ny3-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/01/Ptown_6_07__2_-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/01/gulfcamaro2kh4-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/01/IMG_4868-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/01/Ptown_6_07-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/01/IMG_6127-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/01/IMG_6128-1.jpg

[Mr.VENGEANCE]

i wish i could have seen it run in this color scheme..

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/01/dynowestcamaro-1.jpg

and thanks for the pics above!

now someone put up another VID!

[Shiro666]

That car is 50% doomsday and 50% rage.

[Mr.VENGEANCE]

That car is 50% doomsday and 50% rape.
dont try to edit it back Shiro.. i got you before you did.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/01/473757-1.jpg


AHAHHAHAHH!

[454bug]

Hey Steve,

Do you have any specs on the tire/wheel combination on the Camaro? They look like 16" Bogarts but I was wondering how wide/tall the front and back wheels and tires were? Also, it looks like he went with a taller rear tire when he bought the new Goodyear slicks with the Yellow lettering... It looks like he went from bias-ply slicks to radial slicks...

My guess would be the front wheels would be roughly 16"x12" and the rears maybe 16"x13"...

If they are Goodyear Radial Slicks he is probably running 25.5x12x16 in the front and maybe 28.5x14.5x16 in the rear...

[Goodies1]

wheels are all 16 x 12" (CP Class rule) the tires are bias road race 25 x 13 x 16 front and 27 x 14 x 16 rear.

[Mr.VENGEANCE]

16s never looked so good.

[454bug]

wheels are all 16 x 12" (CP Class rule) the tires are bias road race 25 x 13 x 16 front and 27 x 14 x 16 rear.

Thanks a lot for the information Paul!

Those are the exact size front and rear tires and wheels I plan on running on my car for autocrosses (except I am going to run 16"x14" wheels on the rear). :6gears:

[Lowend]

I don't think 16x14 is CP class legal

Of course that bug is probably gonna be a D-mod car anyways.

BTW

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/01/gulfcamaro1ny3-1.jpghttps://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/01/gulfcamaro2kh4-1.jpg = my pics
Not bad for a LG camera phone huh

[454bug]

I don't think 16x14 is CP class legal

Of course that bug is probably gonna be a D-mod car anyways.

BTW
= my pics
Not bad for a LG camera phone huh

Hey Lowend,

VERY nice pictures indeed for a phone camera!

The local autocrosses that I would probably attend aren't SCCA-sanctioned events anyway... I am just building my car for fun and maximum WOW-factor... I know I would be stuck in some "modified" class where ever I go. I would just stick with whatever the recommended wheel width was dictated by the tire size.

With the Wilwood Pro Spindles I have put on the car the only extra pieces I have to buy for a 16" wheel swap would be a second brake rotor "hat" and a set of 12.90" rotors. There is a "spacer" on the caliper mounting bolts that is used on the 14" rotors and it is removed to work with the smaller diameter 12.90" rotors... :)

I'm SORRY!! I am really NOT trying to jack the thread. It's all about the awesome Camaro!!!