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fantasygoat

01-04-2009, 04:31 PM

I would like to paint the scoop on my car flat black, but having owned a flat black car before, I know how even the slightest scuff will damage the finish on it.

Can anyone recommend a flat black product that won't scuff or leave finger prints when touched?

Iamtheonlyreal1

01-04-2009, 06:24 PM

Believe it or not. And I know when someone says rattle can, they laugh. But, the best Satin Black (flat Black) paint product I have found is Rustoleum's Satin Black. Wax doesnt affect it when you accidently cross over. no scuffs, no finger prints, ect. It is very durable and doesnt fade. I have a couple of cars that, I painted all the trim and the bottom of the rocker panels almost ten years ago..

Give it a try, you will not be disappointed.. Unlike alot of other flat blacks, it sprays and dries even...

Mr.VENGEANCE

01-05-2009, 02:53 AM

check out my thread in the Project updates about my 69 gto.

same as what ^ is talking about.. AWESOME holdup.. and the pics are after a few months with it sprayed.

monza

01-05-2009, 10:23 AM

isn't flat black supposed to look 'bad'?:machine:

vanzuuk1

01-18-2009, 05:38 AM

I use OEM brand paints semi gloss black, its available at the paddock and it works great.

I will try the rustoleum though, hell of a lot cheaper.

Mr.VENGEANCE

01-18-2009, 08:06 AM

itll make a believer outta ya..

NvrDun71

01-18-2009, 11:58 AM

Which rustoleum satin black are you guys using? Thinking about just going cheap and spraying my firewall w/ it. Got a # off the can, I know there are a few versions from rustoleum?

TonyL

01-18-2009, 12:20 PM

My Dp90 still looks awesome after a year or so. I clean it with a rag and glass cleaner. It takes the oxidation right off, finger prints too.

2yellow69

01-18-2009, 08:46 PM

On our camaro we used clear with a dulling agent in it over the black paint. You can vary how dull it looks by how much agent you add. I don't remember a name or part #. We got it at our local paint shop.
Matt

scranm

01-18-2009, 08:58 PM

There are a couple things to consider. The epoxy primers are not designed to be a top coat. The primers will act a sponge when they get wet. Adding flatener to a clear only makes a dull finish. I would suggest that you use a flat clear. Dupont and PPG both make, and it is the best choice you can make for getting a flat clear that is durable.

Iamtheonlyreal1

01-19-2009, 08:03 AM

Not sure what the part number is.. But, it is a green spray can, and says Satin Black on the Can..There is Flat Black, semi Gloss...But the can you want is Satin Black...

It will make a believer out of you...ha ha.. Any Wal-Mart or Hardware should have it.. I am not sure what they put in there paint. But it is the only paint I have found that works that good, and last as long as it does...

It works great on fire walls, Fender wells, trim, rocker panels, wheels. ect.. I have used it on everything including Full stripes..No wax issues, no rubbing issues, ect that is typical for the dull blacks

camaro41701

01-19-2009, 12:24 PM

I think it is 7777 satin black.I spray the bottom af a lot of cars with it.Holds up great.We usually buy it in quarts and reduce it with acetone.Sprays good through a conventional type gun.

manicmechanic

01-19-2009, 07:01 PM

Something else to consider is what I used last year on my 2006 Daytona, I added a new hood and I wanted to keep the theme of the car with a large vinyl hood decal. Because the new hood had a significant bulge I new getting someone to make a decal was going to cost $$$ so I asked around and some guys recommended SEM spray can paint called Bumper Coater found at most parts stores. It was great and I get people asking me all the time where I got the Decal.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/01/Charger3-1.jpg
Original

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/01/Newhood1-1.jpg
New Hood

EBMC

01-19-2009, 08:14 PM

Trim Black by SEM works awesome!

Serpa69

01-20-2009, 10:00 AM

Use the Concept (PPG) single stage urethane black. If you want a good paint. If not use the rattle can.

86Cutlass383SR

01-21-2009, 08:41 PM

Just out of curiousity Mr Vengeance, how many cans did it take you to paint your GTO? Looks sharp BTW!

Mr.VENGEANCE

01-21-2009, 08:45 PM

thanks!

it took 5 cans.

cornerblade

04-02-2009, 05:37 PM

rustoleum part #7777

muthstryker

04-02-2009, 06:09 PM

thanks!

it took 5 cans.

How many coats did you do? Ive been meaning to ask you for awhile now. Also did you use any primer at all?

Just noticed this is old thread....

Mr.VENGEANCE

04-02-2009, 09:54 PM

2 coats.. no primer... all day everyday hustler.

JRouche

04-03-2009, 10:12 PM

There are a couple things to consider. The epoxy primers are not designed to be a top coat. The primers will act a sponge when they get wet.

Really??? I purposely painted my car in epoxy (after bringing it all down to metal) with the idea the epoxy would NOT act like the cheaper primers. Did I go wrong here?? I understand they dont have some of the additives like UV protection and what not but I thought for simple water they were impervious?? Sponge?? Now you have me thinking. Sponge?? Really.. Its SPI epoxy. Seems to be solid. Hmmmm. Now I wonder.. JR

johnny rockett

04-05-2009, 06:02 PM

Really??? I purposely painted my car in epoxy (after bringing it all down to metal) with the idea the epoxy would NOT act like the cheaper primers. Did I go wrong here?? I understand they dont have some of the additives like UV protection and what not but I thought for simple water they were impervious?? Sponge?? Now you have me thinking. Sponge?? Really.. Its SPI epoxy. Seems to be solid. Hmmmm. Now I wonder.. JR

You went wrong......epoxys have NO and I mean NO UV protection...it will white out in no time and blsuch to beat the band..

How do I know...I am a painting contractor and have been using epoxys for years on floors/exterior tanks

We use it on oil tanks because it holds up but goes chalky and will stay clean looking for years...good metal protector but awful for a car finish

JRouche

04-05-2009, 07:08 PM

You went wrong......epoxys have NO and I mean NO UV protection...it will white out in no time and blsuch to beat the band..

Wrong?? How? I already said they dont have any UV additives. I already know that. Did you read my post. I get they dont have any UV protection. Thats not even what I was talking about. I was talking about the permeability to water. The "sponge" reference is what I was talking about. Simple.. JR

johnny rockett

04-07-2009, 06:14 PM

Epoxy is impervious to water for the most part... They say the Dupont DP90 is not a good finish...I have had it on my frame for years with no sign of rust....

JRouche

04-07-2009, 06:46 PM

Epoxy is impervious to water for the most part... They say the Dupont DP90 is not a good finish...I have had it on my frame for years with no sign of rust....

Hey Johnny, and yer right about the UV issue. I understand the OP was looking for a streetable finish, I just got a lil side tracked with the water issue :) Good info!! JR