Crazy GTO roadracing build....

[rogue]

Red GTO, fender flares, crazy build.

Whos the builder? Any info? I'm having a hard time finding info on it.

thanks

[dhutton]

Is this it:

http://www.gtoroadracer.com/

[The Stickman]

I saw this car at The GM NAtionals at Carlisle. It is beautiful. I love flared fendered and widebodied cars. Here are some pics I took.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/12/100_0631-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/12/100_0633-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/12/100_0632-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/12/100_0634-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/12/100_0635-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/12/100_0636-1.jpg

[subtlez28]

That car is sweet!

side not:
I'm guessing one of those above pics just might be from another car.





Answer: the 2nd one

[The Stickman]

That car is sweet!

side not:
I'm guessing one of those above pics just might be from another car.





Answer: the 2nd one

Good catch. sorry about that.

[JEFFTATE]

That car is sooooo perfect.

[Mr.VENGEANCE]

im sure the poncho goat worshipers sh-it comets when they see that car..

but that thing is right up my alley.. i LOVE it.

[ALLFAITH]

I have seen him on performance years forum if you want more info on the NASTY car.

Brad

[buickfunnycar.com]

The red car was featured in Hot Rod or Car Craft a few years back...it is an original GTO I do believe.

[JEFFTATE]

There was a gray '69 Camaro with a huge wing and a '66 Chevelle featured in one of the magazines a while back that had similar build styles.
I was in LOVE !

[WS6]

that car is so sick.

[gtoroadracer]

Hi Guys, I came across this post so I signed up to say thanks, I am glad you like the car. Here is some specs on the car if you have any questions you can email me at [email protected]

Ultimate Warrior Racing
WWW.GTOROADRACER.COM

Designed, Fabricated and Driven
By Don Stellhorn

Spec Sheet: 1964 GTO Road Race Car
Start Date: July 6, 1998
Completion Date: July, 2005

Chassis: Original GTO Framed modified and boxed, all factory suspension point were removed and new suspension points were relocated. (UWR)
Front Suspension: Tubular upper (AFCO) and lower control arms (UWR) with coil over shocks (Aldan Eagle) and springs (Hyperco) Front Torsion Sway bar (Shroeder Racing).
Rear Suspension: 3 Link solid axle with 1 degree negative camber Hubs (Speedway Engineering) with Truetrax Posi unit. Lower control arms (UWR), Aluminum Upper Link (Coleman), Watts Link (UWR) Rear Coil over Shocks (Aldan Eagle) and springs (Hyperco)
Front Brakes: Wilwood GT-III with brake recirculators 13 X 1.375 Rotors (Coleman Racing) and Wilwood race compound 1.120 front brake pads.
Rear Brakes: Wilwood Forged Billet Superlite 12.19 X 1.25 rotors (Coleman Racing) with Wildwood race compound .81 rear brake pads
Engine: 455 Pontiac block .035 bored, 428 crank de-stroked to 440 Cubic inches
Eagle ESP rods, Custom Pistons, Comp Cam Solid Roller Cam with Crower Lifters
Block was prepared by Ken’s Speed Shop in Brooksfield, FL (352)796-8800
Heads: Kaufmann Aluminum D-port heads ported to 325 cfm with Scorpion 1.65 ratio rockers with studs girdles. Heads were prepared by Kauffman Racing Equipment
Glenmont, OH (740) 599-5000
Intake System: Edelbrock Victor manifold with 950 cfm Shaker race prepped Holley Carb
Oil System: Custom Road race oil pan with 3 Quart Accusump with race prepped Mellings oil pump (Canton), Peterson external oil pressure regulator
Transmission: Muncie M-22 with custom road race gears and extra strong case and tail shaft (AutoGear).
Wheels: Front 17 X 12.5 inches with 9.5 inches of backspacing, Rear 17X12.5 with 5.5 inches of backspacing (Complete Custom Wheels)
Tires: Kuhmo ECSTA V710 D.O.T.racing radials 335/35/17 front and rear
Windows: Polycarbonate Lexan ¼ inch front, 1/8 rear and side (Shields Windshields)
Gauges: Tach, speedometer, oil temp, oil pressure, water temp, fuel pressure, fuel level, voltmeter, vacuum, brake bias (autometer)
Ignition: D.U.I. coil and ignition module
Fuel System: 22 gallon race fuel cell, Robbmc mechanical fuel pump
Seat: Road race aluminum seat (Kirkey/Hoerr racing)
Local Machine Shop: Tim’s High Performance Toms River, NJ
UWR = Ultimate Warrior Racing / Don Stellhorn

[Mr.VENGEANCE]

love your car man..

look up Streetfighter on here and you might find some like minded friends and builds..

[BMF Machine]

GooD GoD that is wickeD! WelcomE aboard DudE~:yum:

[shortrack]

there is a pic of your car in my garage......I love it!

what does it wiegh.....??

[gtoroadracer]

Once again thank you for the compliment, I greatly appreciate it. I built the car the way I wanted it and it is nice to know that I went in a direction that was admire and respected by others. The car weighs 3,400 with me in it, I am working on cutting off a couple pounds on the car and as well as me.LOL I am not sure if there has been any talks of this but we really need to put together a HPDE event of all our cars. Everytime I go there are really no old Muscle iron on the track, maybe one or two thats it. If this exist point me in the right direction.

[WS6]

The club Amir(Mr. Vengeance) formed has that intent. Check out the Streetfighters club thread. Should be in this forum. Welcome and count me as another huge fan of the car.

[FirstGenZq8]

gtoroadracer, i'd love to see a build thread on your car. hopefully you took LOTS of pics. i know it's "done" now, but if you could make a build thread i know i (and probably others) would like to see it!

[vanzuuk1]

No offense to anyone, but talk of track days will far outweigh actual trackdays...but there was a good event at pocono for musclecars and i would certainly do it again...


i would ask you to hit an autocross but that would be like using a machine gun on a dartboard..might be fun tho.


It is an awesome car by the way, love it.

[shortrack]

so do you race the car in a SCCA or IMSA class, just go out on track days or.........????

do you run a small dia race clutch?

is it anywhere near street legal??

[gtoroadracer]

gtoroadracer, i'd love to see a build thread on your car. hopefully you took LOTS of pics. i know it's "done" now, but if you could make a build thread i know i (and probably others) would like to see it!

Yes I did. Probably a couple hundred of them, however a good potion of them are photographs, and eventually when I have the time I am going to scan them and put them up on my wesite. Stay tuned

[gtoroadracer]

No offense to anyone, but talk of track days will far outweigh actual trackdays...but there was a good event at pocono for musclecars and i would certainly do it again...


i would ask you to hit an autocross but that would be like using a machine gun on a dartboard..might be fun tho.


It is an awesome car by the way, love it.

Thank you, maybe one of these days I might take it to an autocross, but you are right it would be like a bull in a china shop. Everything is set up for a roadcourse

[gtoroadracer]

so do you race the car in a SCCA or IMSA class, just go out on track days or.........????

do you run a small dia race clutch?

is it anywhere near street legal??

So far I am just going to HPDE, I believe I have everything worked out so I will countinue with the HPDE and maybe some time trials. I am running a 10.5 spec II plus clutch with a hays steel billet flywheel and a quarter master hydraulic slave cylinder. And unfortunately the car is FAR from street legal. The only thing street legal on the car are the brake lights. Here is a video you car see how loud the car is. http://videos.streetfire.net/video/1964-Pontiac-GTO-RoadRace_196143.htm If I get caught driving this thing on the street I will probably get jail time.lol

[fishtail8]

That's a very nice car you've built for yourself. Some more seat time and you'll be wringing it out for all it's worth. That track even seemed a bit small for it, tho you did state you were getting used to the car.

Just for ****'s and giggles, it needs a passenger seat and a guy like Ron Fellows to run it out... just for a few laps. I'm sure you're a more than capable driver, if I owned a car with that track potential it'd be a hell of a rush riding shotgun beside a seasoned pro. A guy could probably learn a thing or two from them... Just a pipe dream thought that popped into my head.

I just imagined it on the Ring in Germany.... Now that would be a ride along!

Nice job once again...

[gtoroadracer]

Thank you, actually that video was taken when I had about 20 minutes of track time at that track. I actually have a passenger seat that I can put in the car. I have been participating in HPDE events since 1991. Give me a car that I do not care about and you will see a totally different video. That day I was sorting out a brand new carb and everytime I started to get into it the oil started to get really hot. I now have fixed that problem. The one thing I have found out is when you start pushing it on a track when you are not familiar with the course or the car is not 100% stuff like this starts to happen check this video out give it about 1 minute http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juTZzrR4qSA The day I was at Thunderbolt I guy also totaled his vette. It makes you think that at any point stuff happens.

[fishtail8]

I hear what your saying Don, getting comfortable with a change in any car can take some time. I look forward to seeing future video's of this car being used to it's potential. I haven't even come close to the potential of my car in a corner, mainly because i'd never do it on a public road and there's just not a decent road course in my neck of the woods. Although there are some autocrosses at the base on the runways I might look into.

You should screw with the straight line guys and run it down the quarter... Just to say you did. A local sprint car racer here ran his car down the strip with a slow rolling start, he ran out of gear but still ran 10 something...

Don't have too much fun with that car!

[CarlC]

Welcome to the forum Don. It's great to have guys like you who have built such a great car, and drives the heck out of it, tell us about your experiences.

[gtoroadracer]

Actually funny you mentioned the drag racing. I did take the car down the 1/4 mile, I ran it twice. The car ran 13.5 at 115 and 117 mph, both runs my reaction time was .024 second and .022 not bad for a roadracer here is the video http://videos.streetfire.net/video/1964-GTO-Roadrace-car-at_196123.htm also here is a video of Pocono speedway I am still not a 100% but the speed was there 155mph on the back straightaway. I am much more famaliar with this track, been there a lot. You should like this one, here is the video http://videos.streetfire.net/video/1964-Pontiac-GTO-roadrace_127168.htm

[gtoroadracer]

Welcome to the forum Don. It's great to have guys like you who have built such a great car, and drives the heck out of it, tell us about your experiences.

Thank you, This is a real nice message board and there are some really great cars and people behind them. I will be a regular here. If anyone has questions just let me know. I have no problem sharing experiences and giving advise. It is what I do for a living.

[preston]

Yeah I have a question - how did you get your car in Hot Rod ?

[ponchopwr70]

Love your car! I think I like it better because you cut up a gto, I remember reading your feature in Hot Rod never seen anything like it good job man.

[Mr.VENGEANCE]

yeah i have a question - how did you get your car in hot rod ?

edit:

[gtoroadracer]

Yeah I have a question - how did you get your car in Hot Rod ?

Real simple I mailed a picture of my car with $5.00 enclosed asking them to put it in the magazine. Just kidding. I went to a HPDE at Virginia International Raceway and the ride along instructor asked if he could take a picture of the car to show to his friends. I said sure take as many as you want, Well I get an email about a couple days later from him, it turns out one of his freinds was one of the editors of HotRod magazine Matt King. Matt is a road racer and loves road racing cars and wanted to do an article on the car. We talked and I meet him at the PRI show in 2005 and in August 2006 they shot the article at Watkins Glen.

[gtoroadracer]

Love your car! I think I like it better because you cut up a gto, I remember reading your feature in Hot Rod never seen anything like it good job man.

Thank you, I really did not mind cutting one up I have owned the car for 26 years now and there are so many examples of a restored 64 GTO I know the history is preserved.

[Mr.VENGEANCE]

your car is an inspiration to us all, Don.

[shortrack]

your car is an inspiration to us all, Don.

absolutely..........!

was there some particular inspiration?.....or at what point did you decide to go all out track only with this car......?

[preston]

his freinds was one of the editors of HotRod magazine Matt King.

Jealous ! Matt saw my car on the internet and we emailed back and forth and even had a tentative date setup with the photog but they never followed through.

I'm sure their thinking was "How many hardcore home built tube frame flared vintage muscle cars do our readers really want to see anyway ?"

[Damn True]

Jealous ! Matt saw my car on the internet and we emailed back and forth and even had a tentative date setup with the photog but they never followed through.

I'm sure their thinking was "How many hardcore home built tube frame flared vintage muscle cars do our readers really want to see anyway ?"

Pretty sure the audience is limited to this website and CC.com. The rest would fall into the "you ruined it" camp.

....of course.....those folks are morons.

[CptKlutz]

Preston, that's what you get for ruining a car! :poke::)
Seriously, I love the GTO and your Mustang Preston but I think Damn True is right, that's what you will get from most people. Never mind that Ford made a zillion Mustang Hardtops and that it was a pretty crappy car in need of some serious attention to get to handle. My donor car for the current build is a Mach 1 and I get it a lot. Hey, not like there is a global shortage of Mach 1's and it was a complete rust revival anyway. Cars are made to be driven, and that's why we read Pro-touring.com, CC, Racecar Engineering etc.!

GTO, thanks for the video links. Love it! How is your exhaust done BTW?

[vanzuuk1]

There is a also a 66 chevelle that runs at pocono, badass car but I dont see it online much...also that grey 69 camaro with the big wing...all similar builds , super cool.

[gtoroadracer]

Jealous ! Matt saw my car on the internet and we emailed back and forth and even had a tentative date setup with the photog but they never followed through.

I'm sure their thinking was "How many hardcore home built tube frame flared vintage muscle cars do our readers really want to see anyway ?"

Hi Preston, first of all I must apologize on making it sound like it was easy getting in Hot Rod, because it was not. It did take a year of emails and phone calls. Both Hot Rod and I wanted it to happen but it took almost a year due to conflicting time schedules, at one point it seem like it would never happen. But then I thought, my intention of building the car was never to get it into a magazine, I just wanted to build a race car. It did not matter if people liked it or not, just the fact that I could do it and try to build it the best that I could and have some fun with it and enjoy it. That is also one of the reason I just don't go out on the track the first time to set a new lap record. I know how long it took to build the car and if I cracked it up rebuilding it would take away from the fun time. I have seen pictures of your car and yes it deserves to be in magazines it is truely unique as there are a lot of unique cars on this site. (I thought I did see your car in some magazine though correct me if I am wrong) The only thing I could think of is Hot Rod wanted the car because I did it with a GTO and the only time that a GTO was built into a road race car was the grey ghost. But once again I built a GTO into a race car was because that was the car I had, if I had a different car most likely that car would of been built into a racecar. At the time Hot Rod was talking about writing the article another very popular magazine emailed me that they were interested in writing an article as well. I guess I did not want to step on anyone's toes so I mentioned to them that Hot Rod was doing an article and I never heard back from that Popular Magazine. I guess they only want first time cars. But the funny thing is that most of these magazines are all under the same company so you would think they would want to show things to their prespective readers. For the last year a swedish car magazine has been contacting me they want to do an article but nothing ever came out of it. So as you can see it was not as easy as I made it sound it did take a lot of work and money as well

[gtoroadracer]

Preston, that's what you get for ruining a car! :poke::)
Seriously, I love the GTO and your Mustang Preston but I think Damn True is right, that's what you will get from most people. Never mind that Ford made a zillion Mustang Hardtops and that it was a pretty crappy car in need of some serious attention to get to handle. My donor car for the current build is a Mach 1 and I get it a lot. Hey, not like there is a global shortage of Mach 1's and it was a complete rust revival anyway. Cars are made to be driven, and that's why we read Pro-touring.com, CC, Racecar Engineering etc.!

GTO, thanks for the video links. Love it! How is your exhaust done BTW?

Thank you, I kept the exhaust system basic it is just headers that I ran above the frame in the engine bay and turned them down to run along the frame on the outside behind aluminum body panels. here is a link to a photo on streetfire.net to show it http://videos.streetfire.net/photo/gtounderframe-045JPG_1464348.htm if you need any more photos please let me know.

[69stang]

I built the car the way I wanted it and it is nice to know that I went in a direction that was admire and respected by others.

I like your attitude. Love the car:cool:

Damn True
Pretty sure the audience is limited to this website and CC.com. The rest would fall into the "you ruined it" camp.

....of course.....those folks are morons.

CptKlutz
Cars are made to be driven, and that's why we read Pro-touring.com, CC, Racecar Engineering etc.!

agree 100% man.

[CptKlutz]

Thank you, I kept the exhaust system basic it is just headers that I ran above the frame in the engine bay and turned them down to run along the frame on the outside behind aluminum body panels. here is a link to a photo on streetfire.net to show it http://videos.streetfire.net/photo/gtounderframe-045JPG_1464348.htm if you need any more photos please let me know.

Thanks - true racecar exhaust. Guess you dont need glasspacks when you have a helmet on. :)

PM me if I can help with the Swedes, I live next door and speak the language. Glad to do my bit promoting classic racers here.

[Norm Peterson]

Pretty sure the audience is limited to this website and CC.com. The rest would fall into the "you ruined it" camp.

....of course.....those folks are morons who can't even see the box much less look outside it.
Fixed that for you.

FWIW, CptKlutz's car is actually attracting mostly favorable attention over on the Classic section at MustangForums.com now that the crotchety old thou-shalt-keep-it-original Classic section moderator is gone.


I'm impressed by all of these cars, but Preston's and Don's in particular have an "in-your-face" personna about them even before you look inside/underneath.


Norm

[preston]

Those are some nice links on the bottom fo the axle. How long are those ? And what size tubing are they made of ? Looks pretty beefy, almost like truck arms. And what bellhousing is that ?

Our cars are similar and our philosophy is similar. Although it'd be nice to get in a mag and get some recognition, I didn't build the car for that and I don't intend to go out of my way or preserve the car in a certain state waiting for a magazine to show up. And yeah, after putting 3-4000 hours into these things you definitely want to enjoy it and its no longer about wringing every last 1/4 second out of your lap time. That's what the shifter kart is for !

[shortrack]

I'm impressed by all of these cars, but Preston's and Don's in particular have an "in-your-face" personna about them even before you look inside/underneath.


Norm


Is there a link to Preston's car.......????

[Mr.VENGEANCE]

hes got that sick blue widebody mustang.. beastin.

[Chad-1stGen]

I love that GTO!!

One of the stand out cars from the magazines. I never had a subscription to Hot Rod but saw that car in Hot Rod on the news stands and bought the issue which I still have saved somewhere just because of your GTO.

I'm excited you are on the forum and enjoyed watch the videos you linked so far.

Awesome ride!

[gtoroadracer]

Those are some nice links on the bottom fo the axle. How long are those ? And what size tubing are they made of ? Looks pretty beefy, almost like truck arms. And what bellhousing is that ?

Our cars are similar and our philosophy is similar. Although it'd be nice to get in a mag and get some recognition, I didn't build the car for that and I don't intend to go out of my way or preserve the car in a certain state waiting for a magazine to show up. And yeah, after putting 3-4000 hours into these things you definitely want to enjoy it and its no longer about wringing every last 1/4 second out of your lap time. That's what the shifter kart is for !

Thank you, the lower control arms are made out of 2 x 3 inch .120 tubing, they are 44 inches long and yes they are over kill. I have been around a local short track for a couple years and I see how things break so I decide they would weigh a couple more pounds but when you think about it the lower control arms are the only thing that is pushing the car forward and if they would break the car would be destroyed in seconds. The front bushing is a mono ball bushing incased in a sleeved enclosed in the control arm, in case the bushing gives out the control will not drop, the rear bushing is a solid greasable bushing. The rear axle is a ford nine inch rear made by speedway engineering, it has the truck full floater NASCAR hubs and I had them put in 1 degree of negative camber. Then I made all the attachment points including the watts link that I can adjust the height up and down to increase or decrease the rear roll center.

To add to your other statement it would be nice to get into a magazine for regonition, You are absolutely 100% right and you and your car deserves that. However checking out most of the cars that I have seen on this message board and how it sounds like everyone is a really cool car guy, I think that everyone deserves to have an article published on them. At the moment I do not believe there is a magazine truely decicated to the pro-touring community to support this. So I have a couple suggestions I can think of is either someone steps up to create one in ink or we should design a magazine on a website so everyone can get the just deserves.:idea: Here is another suggestion when you take your car to a car show, people can vote on it, why not have a show once a year where people can post a couple pictures of their car on this message board and have people vote on it. Now I know everyone is going to vote for their own car but make it available to maybe people outside the message board so you can get a true count. MR.VENGEANCE will like this idea call it the STREETFIGHTER'S AWARD. At least people will have a chance to get their car and their work recognized on more of a national level.

When it comes down to it, the pro-touring community is a very unique club that keeps growing, it is taking a car and displaying that person's taste and creativity in making a car more aggressive for driving.

[gtoroadracer]

Thanks - true racecar exhaust. Guess you dont need glasspacks when you have a helmet on. :)

PM me if I can help with the Swedes, I live next door and speak the language. Glad to do my bit promoting classic racers here.


Thank you and maybe if they email me back again I might ask for that help. Believe it or not even with a helmet it is still to loud. I wear ear plugs when I am out on the track I can actually hear better it filters a lot of the noise out and allows me to concentrate a little more. Here is a link of the car on the chassis dyno so you can imagine how loud it is. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41m9Naixvok

[gtoroadracer]

I like your attitude. Love the car:cool:

Damn True

CptKlutz

agree 100% man.

Thank you, I greatly appreciate it

[gtoroadracer]

I love that GTO!!

One of the stand out cars from the magazines. I never had a subscription to Hot Rod but saw that car in Hot Rod on the news stands and bought the issue which I still have saved somewhere just because of your GTO.

I'm excited you are on the forum and enjoyed watch the videos you linked so far.

Awesome ride!

Thank you, I am glad your like the article and thank you for the welcome. It actually worked out great when the article came out it was the month of SEMA and the Primedia booth at sema is huge. They actually were giving away free magazines. Lets say I got a couple extra to add to my collection.

[CarlC]

When it comes down to it, the pro-touring community is a very unique club that keeps growing, it is taking a car and displaying that person's taste and creativity in making a car more aggressive for driving.

Don,

As you an imagine, there have been more than a few discussions not only here but on other forums as well about the definition of PT. I believe that your description hits the nail on the head better than any other.

[gtoroadracer]

Thank you Carl. Someone mentioned they wanted to see some build pictures which I have a lot of then. Here are two pictures the first is from 1991. This is when the car was driven on the street, it was not a road race car yet but had enough suspension work done to it that it was ok to drive at HPDE events once I started getting envolved with them. It was great to drive it on the street ,it was a great handling car and I had a lot of fun with it. As you can see back in 1991, I was more into pro-touring when the average person was building a car to go in a straight line. The second picture is the road race car with its skin off. This picture was taken back in 9/2003 at this stage I was getting close to the end but still had some work to do. The frame was complete and the motor would be going in shortly. I made a rolling frame for the body which came in real handy.

[wicked68]

Don - thats an amzing build man. Its really amzing that its built by somone that does not have a big racing team and huge multi million dollar budget!

My hats off to you and it looks fun as hell to drive.

[wicked68]

Those are some nice links on the bottom fo the axle. How long are those ? And what size tubing are they made of ? Looks pretty beefy, almost like truck arms. And what bellhousing is that ?

Our cars are similar and our philosophy is similar. Although it'd be nice to get in a mag and get some recognition, I didn't build the car for that and I don't intend to go out of my way or preserve the car in a certain state waiting for a magazine to show up. And yeah, after putting 3-4000 hours into these things you definitely want to enjoy it and its no longer about wringing every last 1/4 second out of your lap time. That's what the shifter kart is for !


Do you have a site for your car or a link to most of the pics? I would like to follow it - and check it out in one location. Iremember another forum that had some stuff - but one spot would be nice.

Maybe you can open a seperate thread on here and put some updates on it :D


Plus the forum has plenty of disk space now - the mods really should take the media restrictions off - it will make the forum more useful - expansion disk is really cheap these days anyway.

[gtoroadracer]

Don - thats an amzing build man. Its really amzing that its built by somone that does not have a big racing team and huge multi million dollar budget!

My hats off to you and it looks fun as hell to drive.

Thank you I appreciate that. I checked out your Mustang and I was very impressed, the car is awesome I wish you well in your production of the car. I do have a website it is www.gtoroadracer.com (http://www.gtoroadracer.com) right now it is very basic. I really need help to design the website. I have a lot of pictures and links to put up, but when it comes to web site design and writing it I need alot of help. Here are a couple more pictures you can see from the first one of the frame, it was designed and built in a garage that I did not have a lot of room. If I was building it again in my new garage now it would take 1/3 of the time. The way I designed and built the car the body can be removed and I still can drive the car. The body is suspended on mounts attached to the frame unlike a Nascar that all the panels are welded on.

[rogue]

Love the car. Thanks for the info. Reminds me of Bob Owen's camaro but much different, in a good way!

Its not a camaro :P

[JEFFTATE]

There is a also a 66 chevelle that runs at pocono, badass car but I dont see it online much...also that grey 69 camaro with the big wing...all similar builds , super cool.

The '69 Camaro with the big wing belongs to Bob Owens.
It was featured in PHR a while back.

Who owns the 66 Chevelle ???

[CanAmNova]

The '69 Camaro with the big wing belongs to Bob Owens.
It was featured in PHR a while back.

Who owns the 66 Chevelle ???

If it's the one I'm thinking about, wasn't it a gray or silver '67 Chevelle? It was featured in Hot Rod or PHR about 5 years ago. It was very similar to Don's GTO in build style, maybe a bit more circle track/Nascar influence though. I'd love to see some pics/info on that car too.

Oh, and I believe this is the Camaro that was referred to above:

[gtoroadracer]

I believe it is a 67 Chevelle I met him at Pocono one time back in 2005. My car was almost done and I walked over to let him know that he had oil leaking out underneath his trunk. He looked at me like I had three heads and said "why would there be oil leaking out of my trunk" so I looked under his hood and saw that the car had a dry sump pump and said "It is probably leaking from the oil tank in the trunk", so he popped the trunk and it looked like the oil tanked exploded, there was oil everywhere. From checking the car out the best I could remember it is a stock frame and stock body chevelle with a cage in it. It looks like it has suspension kit on it and a strong motor. From the looks of it he could still drive it on the street. I tried talking shop with him but he really did not know too much of the car some shop built it for him and he just drives it. I was hoping to see him take it back out but he got in his backup car which was a 930 Porsche. It must be nice to have money. I would of just settled for the gold rolex Daytona watch on his wrist.

[JEFFTATE]

I think it was Peter Castellana's '67 Chevelle.

[rogue]

Don your car is PURE pro touring...

love it. would love to see you out at a track day some time....

[shortrack]

I think it was Peter Castellana's '67 Chevelle.

you mean this car....???

[JEFFTATE]

you mean this car....???

Yes , that's it !
What magazine / month was that ??
I've been looking through my back issues and haven't run across it yet.
(Correction: I found it , it was January 2005 Hot Rod.)


BTW , Bob Owens' '69 Camaro was on the cover of ,and featured in, the June 2004 Popular Hot Rodding.
I found that issue in my library about an hour ago.
It was also in the July 2004 Hot Rod and the Fall issue of Camaro Performers.
http://www.automotiveenterprise.org/bobowen69.html


I love these 4 cars ( Bobs Camaro , Peters Chevelle , Dons GTO , and Big Red )
They are all business !
How Cool !!

[shortrack]

I love these 4 cars ( Bobs Camaro , Peters Chevelle , Dons GTO , and Big Red )
They are all business !
How Cool !!

agreed......!!!

their all cool!

[Pagani]

That is very insane car i love it
It's would get banned here in the netherlands if you ever wanted to run it on a roarcourse circuit here in the netherlands.
Just because it's to damm loud.
(bs rules)