GM introduces four 2010 Camaro Concepts @ SEMA SHOW 2008. Camaro = official show car [Archive]

lucentaz

11-04-2008, 10:14 AM

GM just unveiled the 4 Camaro Concepts at SEMA show 2008. The "BLACK" version is just https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/11/eek-1.gif https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/11/eek-1.gif https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/11/eek-1.gif https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/11/eek-1.gif https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/11/eek-1.gif https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/11/eek-1.gif

Someone at Camaro5 (http://www.camaro5.com/) posted real life pics last night from the show and also GM's official press release pics.

PICS:
Camaro LS7 Concept (http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9274)

Dale Earnhardt Jr. Concept Camaro (http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9273)

Camaro BLACK Concept (http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9271)

Camaro GS Racer Concept (http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9275)

Samckitt

11-04-2008, 10:33 AM

This is just mean looking.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/11/semacamaro3a-1.jpg

I like this one most:
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/11/semacamaro2a-1.jpg

Then this one:
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/11/semacamaro4a-1.jpg

TA219

11-04-2008, 10:43 AM

that ducktail spoiler is exactly what the car needs!!

Damn True

11-04-2008, 10:44 AM

The wheels on the Dale Jr. model are awful. Having Dale Jr's name splattered on the car is a deal breaker for me. I do however like the decklid spoiler.

jy211

11-04-2008, 10:58 AM

just change the wheels...LOL Not like it'd be stock for long anyways!

96Z28SS

11-04-2008, 11:14 AM

The Dale Jr front grille is much better than the stock grille. The stock grille looks to bulky and looks like it belongs on a truck

Damn True

11-04-2008, 11:19 AM

I like both grilles.

BonzoHansen

11-04-2008, 11:31 AM

The Dale Jr front grille is much better than the stock grille. The stock grille looks to bulky and looks like it belongs on a truck
Agreed

maldo

11-04-2008, 12:10 PM

A few years ago I saw the new camaro close up at the F-body gathering In Atlanta...(Scott Settlemire was driving it around the lot... got some great pictures of that event and a few beers we had with him in the weee hours of the night great guy! btw )

But besides that the car did not move me as much as I thought.... I am a big f-body guy that has or had 4th and 2nd gen f-bodys)

Gm has been talking about this car for years... and just like many times before they have great concepts but never follow though with them and they always seemed to get watered down .. once it reaches the public or price them ridiculous like they did to the GTO ........

Restomod

11-04-2008, 12:17 PM

Nope still dont like it........

ITLBTU

11-04-2008, 12:27 PM

maldo

11-04-2008, 12:43 PM

I'm a big F-body fan. I've had 2 first gens, one I bought 3 times. 2 third gens, and 1 fouth gen. I didn't like this new one when it first came out. Now, I'm tempted to go in debt and trade the Zo6 in on one. My Chevy salesman called me last week and said they have 10 allotments and I could order one if I wanted... It's soooo tempting...

at what price did your salesman me say? (I wanted to do the same thing and trade my 4gen in for a gto but they like wanted almost 5 grand over sticker price crazy i thought because you can pick them up for about 20grand or less)

NVRENUF

11-04-2008, 01:25 PM

cool pics! Thanks. Can't wait for my orange/orange one to come in:naughty:

JEFFTATE

11-04-2008, 01:41 PM

The GS Racer Concept is the best.

John McIntire

11-04-2008, 01:48 PM

at what price did your salesman me say? (I wanted to do the same thing and trade my 4gen in for a gto but they like wanted almost 5 grand over sticker price crazy i thought because you can pick them up for about 20grand or less)

Thats my biggest fear when these cars hit the showroom floors, that the stealership is going to mark them up some ridiculous amount

jknight16

11-04-2008, 02:00 PM

There are dealers taking orders today with fully-refundable deposits and contracts to sell the cars for MSRP, so I think with a little searching you will be able to find them for MSRP when they hit the lots. Of course there's going to be the jerkwad dealer up the road that wants a $5K "market adjustment" but there are others that will not.

Mathius

11-04-2008, 02:14 PM

I absolutely hate the interior. The rest of it is nice. I still would like to swap out the front fascia for a Horton-like one-off.

Mathius

JEFFTATE

11-04-2008, 02:35 PM

Thats my biggest fear when these cars hit the showroom floors, that the stealership is going to mark them up some ridiculous amount
The dealerships that do that sort of thing are only as guilty as the guys with money to burn who basically outbid each other and drive the price up.The dealership isn't twisting anybodies arm to overpay , but some jerks out there just have to have the first one in their neighborhood , so they offer more and drive the price up.

jknight16

11-04-2008, 02:45 PM

The dealerships that do that sort of thing are only as guilty as the guys with money to burn who basically outbid each other and drive the price up.The dealership isn't twisting anybodies arm to overpay , but some jerks out there just have to have the first one in their neighborhood , so they offer more and drive the price up.

Very true, well said.

Damn True

11-04-2008, 02:50 PM

maldo

11-04-2008, 02:55 PM

yeah i'll wait and hang on to my old car ...... you will see prices drop in about a year

jknight16

11-04-2008, 03:11 PM

Delayed gratification.

Just wait. The prices will come down.

Yeah, I think you're probably right. Not only that, but I'm curious to see what the second model year brings in terms of options, features, etc.

trapin

11-04-2008, 03:33 PM

I highly doubt you'll see many (if any) dealerships mark this car up. Not in this economy. They want to move product and mark-ups in a stressed economy is not going to get it done. They may be greedy, but they're not stupid.

Case in point, they all said Challanger was going to get marked up and now many are sitting on dealership lots biding time.

WS6

11-04-2008, 05:56 PM

Speaking of which, there is a red challenger sitting out front the dodge dealership here in town.

As for these cars, love the GS. LS7 is cool because it has the engine. It's boring beyond that. The Black Series is wow until you realize it's a V6. The Black Series is very reminiscent of the RS 4th gens to me. Great lines completely ruined by a pathetic engine. The Black Series should have a mean engine not some weak six

Kenova

11-04-2008, 06:33 PM

The Black Series is wow until you realize it's a V6. The Black Series is very reminiscent of the RS 4th gens to me. Great lines completely ruined by a pathetic engine. The Black Series should have a mean engine not some weak six

The six is rated at 300hp. is it not?
And what kind of power rating did the first LS1 Corvette have?

Having said that, I personally would prefer a 300hp. eight over a 300hp six. But that's just me.

As for supply, if there are buyers for them, GM will build them.
Some of the guys I've been working with in the truck plant have transfered over to the Camaro plant. Production starts this month (maybe this past Mon.). The Oshawa plants have always had a very aggressive ramp up schedule, so the plant will most likely be going close to full tilt in three to four months. If the sales are sustainable, they will start thinking about a second shift by next summer. One shift is capable of producing close to 100,000 units per year.

Ken

WS6

11-04-2008, 07:45 PM

The six is rated at 300hp. is it not? Correct
And what kind of power rating did the first LS1 Corvette have? 350

Having said that, I personally would prefer a 300hp. eight over a 300hp six. But that's just me. That's what am saying. A six unless something different, maybe turbocharged, is just not cool. Maybe this six will be capable of much more. I don't know but I'm not enthused at this point though.

As for supply, if there are buyers for them, GM will build them.
Some of the guys I've been working with in the truck plant have transfered over to the Camaro plant. Production starts this month (maybe this past Mon.). The Oshawa plants have always had a very aggressive ramp up schedule, so the plant will most likely be going close to full tilt in three to four months. If the sales are sustainable, they will start thinking about a second shift by next summer. One shift is capable of producing close to 100,000 units per year. I sure hope it works out that way. Time will tell.

Ken

answered in bold

ITLBTU

11-05-2008, 10:45 AM

at what price did your salesman me say? (I wanted to do the same thing and trade my 4gen in for a gto but they like wanted almost 5 grand over sticker price crazy i thought because you can pick them up for about 20grand or less)

I have a good salesman, he always sells far below msrp. I don't know what he would sell it for, but I'm sure it would be no more than msrp. I didn't ask, because I know I can't afford it right now.

JEFFTATE

11-05-2008, 12:03 PM

Yep , the prices will stabilize to a reasonable amount.

I remember when Miatas came out.
There were people paying almost double the sticker price to be the first.
Then , 6 months later , the dealers were selling them at sticker.

maldo

11-05-2008, 12:39 PM

I would think so too but, its still not enough for me to go into debit for.

PonchoJohn

11-05-2008, 07:15 PM

I like the JR model a lot, but the Black car is just mean! It reminds me of my Night Train- all black w/ minimal trim.
I think GM has a hit on their hands!
Oh yeah, anybody remember the sneak peak at GM where the guy was working on the exhaust tips-- notice anything??!!

Jarcaines

11-05-2008, 07:35 PM

The Dale Jr front grille is much better than the stock grille. The stock grille looks to bulky and looks like it belongs on a truck

I was going to say the exact same thing.

CarlC

11-05-2008, 11:23 PM

The wheels on the Dale Jr. model are awful.

They are just as bad in person. I'm not diggin' the matching orange door panel insert color to match the interior. It looks king-cheesy.

The LS7 car is pretty nice.

revhead

11-06-2008, 07:56 AM

what's the deal with the yellow one with the hockey stripe?

Rhino

11-06-2008, 08:01 AM

...It looks king-cheesy.

That was my first impression as well. It's over done. They could have had twice the car with half the effort.

Conekiller13

11-06-2008, 09:04 AM

The classic.......

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/11/2390168251_93a6c07f74-1.jpg?v=0

:pat:

bigvegan

11-06-2008, 03:50 PM

If 1 shift is set up to build 100k of these per year, we're looking at rebate city.

Ford's only selling 5k Mustangs a month right now, and Pontiac's only selling about 2k G8s, and the Camaro's basically a rebodied 2-door G8, with better styling and heritage.

We all know how musclecar fans feel about the Camaro, but to the average buyer, this is a nice-looking but large and not very convenient 2+2 with terrible blind spots that gets 27mpg highway made by a company that's in imminent danger of bankruptcy.

That said, a 300hp 6-speed V6 for $19.9k or less would be pretty tempting, and it's not like they haven't done $3k price cuts before.

Not selling the SS models in blue seems like a pretty big mistake though.
http://www.chevrolet.com/camaro/pdf/2010+Camaro+Order.pdf

jknight16

11-06-2008, 04:07 PM

Not selling the SS models in blue seems like a pretty big mistake though.
http://www.chevrolet.com/camaro/pdf/2010+Camaro+Order.pdf
GM brass listened to the outcry from enthusiasts on forums like this regarding the lack of a blue-SS combo and has made the right decision, Aqua Blue and Imperial Blue will be available on the SS at launch. Order forms haven't been updated yet but will be soon.