View Full Version : Hyrdatech Hydroboost or ABS Electric High Power Master?
triplecap
10-30-2008, 08:11 AM
I've been reading as much as I can about both of these systems and can't see a clear winner. I know the Hyrdoboost is probably the more popular of the two, but everyone who actually has the EHPM from ABS seems happy. Here are my constraints & concerns:
I know both are expensive in comparison to a traditional booster/master combo and I'm mentally prepared (not financially!) to foot the bill. The price difference (maybe a few hundred dollars) won't be the primary factor dictating my decision.
I've heard the hyrdoboost isn't recommended for power steering systems with remote reservoirs, which is exactly what I'm planning on running next year (I want to use Billet Specialties' TrueTrac system). Anyone running a remote PS reservoir with hyrdoboost?
People mention the pitfalls of the electric system by citing all of the Buick GN problems with these - does the ABS unit use the same exact parts? Have these issues been addressed since these systems were last used in production cars?
I like the CPP MCPV1 master cylinder - which I won't be able to run with the Electric unit.
I have to make a decision within the next few days before my car starts tying up space at the shop it's at.This is for a 63' Belair wagon with 14/13" rotors and C5 calipers if that makes any difference.
Thanks in advance,
Eric
GetMore
10-30-2008, 05:20 PM
FWIW, GM ran hydroboost with remote reservoirs. I think the important thing is to have the right reservoir, so it will not allow the fluid to foam and will let any bubbles rise out of the fluid.
triplecap
10-30-2008, 08:34 PM
Thanks for the info. I called ABS today and talked to them about both systems (they also sell a hyrdoboost setup). They also confirmed that you can run a hydroboost unit with a remote reservoir without any problems. I also asked about their Electric system, and how it compared to the OEM stuff that was tried by a few manufacturers. ABS said that they use a GM accumulator but that the rest of the components are new and manufactured by them.
They quoted me $950 for the Electric High Power Master setup. They want $550 for their version of a hyrdoboost with master cyclinder (not including lines). Classic Performance Products (CPP) sells Hyrdatech's system for $700, and add a MCPV-1 master and it's up at $900.
Lucky for me both places are only 20 minutes away :)
I'll let you guys know if I get any more info or if I make a decision either way.
johnny rockett
02-12-2010, 09:18 PM
Seems this is the only thing to use with big brakes if you dont have room for the hydratech booster length.
Has anybody bought and used that unit?
It will go to 2500 PSI if you need it...has alots of plus points depending on reliability etc.
right now they seem to be the only show in town for an electric piece.
Any builders using these?
Payton King
02-14-2010, 03:20 PM
He goes by RSX302 on this board. Blue 68camaro with twin turbo 302 ford motor.
ken67
02-14-2010, 04:30 PM
I had the hydroboost on my 69 with a true trac and remote reservoir and the pump screamed. After trying all typs of additives and snake oil I changed the tank to a KSE KSF1000-010 from JR motorsports $119.99 and it was perfect.Best $120 I ever spent. I rode with a few guys at powertour having the same issue and wish i had their numbers to let them know the fix. The one i removed was a PRC tank with the -10 fitting on the bottom $30.00. It foamed like crazy! I guess you get what you pay for. I recommend this tank to everyone and it works every time. Hope this helps
RSX302
02-16-2010, 10:29 PM
Seems this is the only thing to use with big brakes if you dont have room for the hydratech booster length.
Has anybody bought and used that unit?
It will go to 2500 PSI if you need it...has alots of plus points depending on reliability etc.
right now they seem to be the only show in town for an electric piece.
Any builders using these?
Using the ABS Electric system on the Wilwood SL6's in front and FDL's in the rear. 13" Front rotor/12" rear with BP20's. 3600lb car without driver.
This system will put you thru the glass and didn't skip a beat at Willow Spring. Solid Pedal and eliminated rearend knockback (So I think it was knockback, but couldn't prove it)
Above is all the Pro's--the Con's is that you need to find homes for the pump and accumulator. Also a slight brake pedal pulse when the pump turns on every 2nd or 3rd brake apply. Ensure you use 4:1 pedal ratio or its too touchy.
bsclark
02-18-2010, 11:50 PM
We're big fans of the electric unit. Easy (relatively) to install and works very well! I've had one very small problem with one of the units, but it was evident from the start, a simple fix, and fine after that.
Cant wait to put a couple of 'em on my personal projects!
johnny rockett
02-19-2010, 05:01 PM
Thanks for the response !:)
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