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Samckitt
10-13-2008, 08:28 AM
It is not in the United States
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,435189,00.html
CRCRFT78
10-13-2008, 08:39 AM
Total BS
dropit69
10-13-2008, 08:42 AM
toatl BS i think if its your property you should be able to have frickin land mines on it to protect your stuff !!!!! i think he should dig a moat and put gators in it !!
trapin
10-13-2008, 09:06 AM
The council would probably agree with you guys but I see their point too in not wanting to get sued. Especially in this economy we have right now.
Damn True
10-13-2008, 09:16 AM
It won't be long until this DOES happen here.
It is not in the United States, yet.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,435189,00.html
Fixed it for you.
parsonsj
10-13-2008, 09:36 AM
If you read the story carefully, you'll notice that the liability issue with "thieves" is what the owner of the property said. Not necessarily what the city council said. I think it would be good to reserve judgement until we get all the information.
As far as land mines and alligators on your own property, I disagree. I would think killing some mischievous teenage boys with a land mine is something a civilized society shouldn't condone. Maybe it's just me. :)
jp
Tony_SS
10-13-2008, 09:44 AM
The British have the Nanny State going in full force over there.
It's his property, city be damned. Barbed wire is a good deterrent. If the council doesn't like it, maybe they can donate a few of their security cameras. I'm sure they've got plenty to spare.
Damn True
10-13-2008, 09:51 AM
If you read the story carefully, you'll notice that the liability issue with "thieves" is what the owner of the property said. Not necessarily what the city council said. I think it would be good to reserve judgement until we get all the information.
As far as land mines and alligators on your own property, I disagree. I would think killing some mischievous teenage boys with a land mine is something a civilized society shouldn't condone. Maybe it's just me. :)
jp
I'm certain the suggestion of landmines and gators was satirical. Though the prospect of a moat is kinda cool.
I have no problem with the barbed wire.
CRCRFT78
10-13-2008, 09:53 AM
Anyone stupid enough to try and climb through or over a barbed wire fence to try and steal something from someone deserves to get hurt.
paul67
10-13-2008, 10:00 AM
Thats just down the road from me, Yep we have now become a nanny state and compensation culture,cost me $20,000 to get rid of some tenants,could not cut off power or gas or water to make them leave so they just run up bills, the low lifes have more right than the victims.
parsonsj
10-13-2008, 10:02 AM
Anyone stupid enough to try and climb through or over a barbed wire fence to try and steal something from someone deserves to get hurt.It is impossible to argue with that statement. But we don't know that that has anything to do with the story in Britain.
I can tell you that barbed wire fences in my neighborhood are prohibited. Who wants to live in a neighborhood with barbed wire fences? Not me.
jp
tony byram
10-13-2008, 10:38 AM
Damn! I guess That I will have to take down the chain guns and motion detectors now?
Samckitt
10-13-2008, 11:52 AM
I guess they can't have barbed wire around their prisons either. They might get hurt trying to escape.
Samckitt
10-13-2008, 11:54 AM
Thats just down the road from me, Yep we have now become a nanny state and compensation culture,cost me $20,000 to get rid of some tenants,could not cut off power or gas or water to make them leave so they just run up bills, the low lifes have more right than the victims.
That is f-ing bullsh#t. By golly if I wasn't paying my electric to the electric company or paying my water THEY would shut it off. I would too.
paul67
10-13-2008, 11:58 AM
But the water gas and electric was being fed by my meters also , the companys are not allowed ,we have whats called human rights over here.
Damn True
10-13-2008, 11:59 AM
Here you don't have a right to stay in a property you aren't paying for, and you certainly don't have a right to electricity and water while doing so.
dropit69
10-13-2008, 12:01 PM
yeah i was kidding with the land mines and alligators ..i always wanted a castle style house with a moat thou...i do believe its bs that any thief can get anything from a homeowner or the city if hurt in a robbery..
paul67
10-13-2008, 12:06 PM
I was not allowed to change locks or restrict there access to the property cause if they injured themselves I could be sued, This was the advice by my lawyer who was a property specalist.On the barbed wire thing what the police recomended is thorn bushes.
Tony_SS
10-13-2008, 12:08 PM
Well maybe he should just take down the barbed wire fence... and put up a 120,000 volt electrical one that looks perfectly safe to climb over. :D
Tony_SS
10-13-2008, 12:10 PM
I was not allowed to change locks or restrict there access to the property cause if they injured themselves I could be sued, This was the advice by my lawyer who was a property specalist.On the barbed wire thing what the police recomended is thorn bushes.
What they might sprain their wrist putting a key in a switched lock?
parsonsj
10-13-2008, 12:55 PM
i always wanted a castle style house with a moat thouOK, that's funny stuff. Sorry to be so pompous. :)
Anyway, it sounds like we aren't talking about the Fox News story any more.
I don't know British law (or American law for that matter) about tenants and property owners. Some of what you are relating could be a result of laws to try and prosecute slum lords, I'd guess.
jp
toxicz28
10-13-2008, 01:03 PM
I have no problem with the barbed wire.
I was always a little more partial to razor ribbon.:twothumbs
bwhinnen
10-13-2008, 01:09 PM
"Mr Malcolm's plight comes just weeks after Bristol council angered allotment holders by urging them not to lock their sheds in case burglars damaged them breaking in."
That was the funniest quote of all from the full article.
It would be interesting here in Aus, most of the properties in the rural / semi rural areas have at least one strand, usually three or four of barbed wire, its a deterrent to the live stock wanting to escape...
This is just a joke, sorry to say but you Brits are turning this into a fine art, and here we in Australia thought the Americans were the worst when it came to silliness like this, I guess we've been grossly misinformed :D
PonchoJohn
10-13-2008, 01:28 PM
Get rid of the barbed wire and gat some regular old pasture fencing. What?? Yup, and while you're at it get some big ol' hogs (they eat anything-- like "meat") to keep in that "pasture." If someone were to "fall in" the thing, it'd be their own fault, right?
HAHAHA!!:naughty:
Oh yeah, hey Ozzie-boy, ease up. Wasn't it your government that took away a bunch of guns/rifles from your citizens? See, we're not the only ones.:spank2:
Samckitt
10-13-2008, 01:30 PM
I was not allowed to change locks or restrict there access to the property cause if they injured themselves I could be sued, This was the advice by my lawyer who was a property specalist.On the barbed wire thing what the police recomended is thorn bushes.
Then I think I would take the dorrs off the frames & take the windows out too.
bwhinnen
10-13-2008, 01:39 PM
Get rid of the barbed wire and gat some regular old pasture fencing. What?? Yup, and while you're at it get some big ol' hogs (they eat anything-- like "meat") to keep in that "pasture." If someone were to "fall in" the thing, it'd be their own fault, right?
HAHAHA!!:naughty:
Oh yeah, hey Ozzie-boy, ease up. Wasn't it your government that took away a bunch of guns/rifles from your citizens? See, we're not the only ones.:spank2:
Touché :lol:
We seem to follow the mother land's lead on most things, well depending on who is sitting in the Prime Ministers Office that is, means it is either Mother England's lead or the US' lead...
And we don't talk about those dark days of almost fully disarming the population... :screwy:
Hmm 'hogs' you say, perhaps some of the wild variety with the big tusks? Although simple pasture fencing won't keep em in :evil:
(but anyways all my comments were in jest, so don't take them seriously please, you know us Aussies, we pick on everybody, especially ourselves, what do you expect from a 'convict nation' :moon: )
BMF Machine
10-13-2008, 02:14 PM
toatl BS i think if its your property you should be able to have frickin land mines on it to protect your stuff !!!!! i think he should dig a moat and put gators in it !!
Better yet!; Put SharkS in the moat, with fricking lazers on their head!lololol That would be EviL:seizure:
amx2334
10-13-2008, 02:31 PM
This was in America.
http://www.tampabay.com/news/humaninterest/article847365.ece
Glad they don't have covenants where I live.
wedgehead
10-13-2008, 02:32 PM
No they would make you use trout instead of the sharks.
bwhinnen
10-13-2008, 02:46 PM
This was in America.
http://www.tampabay.com/news/humaninterest/article847365.ece
Glad they don't have covenants where I live.
Can understand the covenants, but to take someone to court over them? What happened to community spirit, surely people could have helped him to actually re-sow the lawn and mend the sprinklers if they were that worried rather than footing out the cost of re-sodding...
Is it just me or is the first thing that disappears in these 'gated' communities is common decency and goodwill towards your neighbors?
BMF Machine
10-13-2008, 04:19 PM
This was in America.
http://www.tampabay.com/news/humaninterest/article847365.ece
Glad they don't have covenants where I live.
That is some BS! I would flame the whole yard then paint thy DirT GreeN!:wedgie:
What is this SicK wOrld coming to??????????
BMF Machine
10-13-2008, 04:22 PM
No they would make you use trout instead of the sharks.
:cheers:
TrouTs w/lazers on their heads would still be pretty SicK and EviL!:rotfl:
Plus if they ZaP each other it would be good eatn'Z!
parsonsj
10-13-2008, 04:26 PM
Is it just me or is the first thing that disappears in these 'gated' communities is common decency and goodwill towards your neighbors?No doubt some people can be that way, but I think that's a pretty broad brush. Or would you also say that all the Americans who've been out helping others all over the world must be from non-gated communities? Just sayin'.
It seems to me that Mr. Prudente could have helped himself a whole bunch of ways before he was found in contempt of court. As he said himself: "To me, keeping the house is more important than the grass," said Prudente, a retired registered nurse from New York. "I just ignored them."
He ignored them, too, after the association filed a complaint in court. He ignored a court order in May, signed by Bray, giving Prudente 30 days to sod the yard.
Hope he learns his lesson.
jp
bwhinnen
10-13-2008, 05:04 PM
No doubt some people can be that way, but I think that's a pretty broad brush. Or would you also say that all the Americans who've been out helping others all over the world must be from non-gated communities? Just sayin'.
It seems to me that Mr. Prudente could have helped himself a whole bunch of ways before he was found in contempt of court. As he said himself: "To me, keeping the house is more important than the grass," said Prudente, a retired registered nurse from New York. "I just ignored them."
He ignored them, too, after the association filed a complaint in court. He ignored a court order in May, signed by Bray, giving Prudente 30 days to sod the yard.
Hope he learns his lesson.
jp
I was actually talking about those in Australia not the US (can't comment about those as I've never lived in a gated community in the US) so yes perhaps a broader brush than required. And please do not get like that about American's helping others, of course you do like any other decent country in the world, it is what we all do help others in need, just some seem to forget it, and for some funny reason here in Australia it seems to be in the gated communities with special covenants that it starts!
Perhaps I just need to shut up and stay out of threads like this then as I seem to offend more often than not... Sorry, not my intention at all.
And don't get me wrong I'm not defending his actions, just concerned about the lead up to the court dramas. I'm sure it mentioned that he replied to them (not the courts, the body corporate or what ever they are called) citing financial difficulties. But ignoring a court order is not a smart thing though I'll agree with you.
amx2334
10-13-2008, 05:35 PM
UPDATE
Now this is the America that I grew up in.
http://www.tampabay.com/news/humaninterest/article850257.ece
I agree that ignoring it wasn't the thing to do but to go to jail? The cost of jail time will exceed the sod.
parsonsj
10-13-2008, 07:44 PM
Perhaps I just need to shut up and stay out of threads like this then as I seem to offend more often than not... Sorry, not my intention at all. No offense was taken. Really. I just think it is too easy to jump on the bandwagon of "that poor man". Most times reasonable people work out a reasonable compromise in these things. By his own account he ignored the rules that he contracted to follow, and then ignored the various people who were only doing their jobs. He was the unreasonable person in this matter.
It is a great ending with all the folks who came out to help him and his family. I hope Mr. Prudente doesn't ignore those who helped him.
jp
ill steez
10-13-2008, 10:21 PM
hah, that headline is kinda bs... it takes the ruling in a different context than they may have actually intended... although in that guys particular experience i can imagine why he'd be upset.
i know in my neighborhood there is a complete ban on barbed wire fences, bars over windows, and even street lights.
toxicz28
10-14-2008, 02:39 PM
Better yet!; Put SharkS in the moat, with fricking lazers on their head!lololol That would be EviL:seizure:
Couldn't get sharks, but we got sea bass!
UPDATE
Now this is the America that I grew up in.
http://www.tampabay.com/news/humaninterest/article850257.ece
Hell yeah!
Scott Parkhurst
10-15-2008, 08:46 AM
I don't like the look of barbed wire either. But, the comment about electrifying the fence is a good one. If the 'hot' wire is on the inside of the fence, it will be both out of sight and comfortably within property lines. The only way it could hurt anyone is if they were somewhere they weren't supposed to be....and odds are good no one would even know it was there.
As a fan of 'sleeper' cars, this stealthy idea is one that appeals to me.
But, then again I moved out to the middle of nowhere so I wouldn't have to worry about such things. It's SO pleasant not having to think about it anymore, after living in the Los Angeles area for 20 yrs.
Tony_SS
10-15-2008, 09:11 AM
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/10/0003bssg-1.jpg
shmoov69
10-15-2008, 02:45 PM
There was a lawsuit several years ago where a thief sued the business owner after he fell into "hot" wires and zapped him. The place had been broke into several times all thru the skylight and the owner was sick of it and booby trapped it. He got sued and lost big time because it was "premeditated to injure" someone. Heck, you can't even protect your own property!
JohnUlaszek
10-15-2008, 07:33 PM
I was in San Jose in Costa Rica earlier this year, and was really surprised how pretty much every house had bars on the windows, barbed wire, and tall iron fences.
The reasons for it are rooted in the past, but the people I talked to said, for the most part, its almost a status symbol and it's just "normal" to have that level of "security".
The neighborhoods seemed safe enough, but the overall effect was that I just felt nervous that "something" was always on the verge of happening. Maybe "security" taken too far actually decreases security?
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