View Full Version : Rushforth Livewires, Smoked Titanium Center *PICS*
DriverzInc
10-06-2008, 09:58 AM
Here is a set of Rushforth Livewires, brushed and clear coated outer,and Smoked Titanium centers.
Rear wheels are 20x12s, and fronts are 19x10s for a DSE front clipped and minitubbed 69 Camaro. The customer is all the way down in the Philippines!
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www.RushforthWheels.com. Toll Free order line: 866-694-5940
DriverzInc
10-06-2008, 10:08 AM
Wheels are also still shipping in 4-5 weeks.
Shiro666
10-06-2008, 10:47 AM
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So nice...
JustinB
10-06-2008, 10:59 AM
Those are bad ass! Cant wait to see them on the car!
buickfunnycar.com
10-06-2008, 11:16 AM
How deep is that lip Jon...?:eek:
DriverzInc
10-06-2008, 11:40 AM
How deep is that lip Jon...?:eek:
Exactly 6.0"! :twothumbs
1969CamaroRS
10-06-2008, 12:25 PM
Everytime I see the TI centers, it makes me go "ooh"
Wheels are also still shipping in 4-5 weeks.
Can't wait for my strutters with TI centers :yeah:
MarkM66
10-06-2008, 01:38 PM
Exactly 6.0"! :twothumbs
Whats the backspacing? Any info on the car?
DriverzInc
10-06-2008, 02:30 PM
Whats the backspacing? Any info on the car?
Fronts are 19x10s with 6.125" of backspace. Rears are 20x12s with a 5.5" backspace.
buickfunnycar.com
10-06-2008, 02:57 PM
Exactly 6.0"! :twothumbs
OMFG...that'll look sick!
Hope to see some pics when they are mounted.:usa:
those are some good lookin' wheels. me likey.
WTRacing
10-06-2008, 05:46 PM
wow, damn good looking set of wheels
Thanks guys! Glad you're all liking them. The car is a 69 Camaro I designed for a client in the Philippines and it has all the aftermarket underpinnings as well as a nasty twin turbo Nelson motor. He's a lurker here so maybe he'll chime in.
He's a great customer and it is my honor to have the brand travel as far as it has in such a short time.
The WidowMaker
10-06-2008, 07:59 PM
awesome!!! cant wait to see the final product.....
FirstGenZq8
10-06-2008, 08:29 PM
i know it'll be a longshot, but did you happen to weigh those before they got tires mounted?
JT_67Tempest
10-06-2008, 08:38 PM
Wheels look awesome Jon!!!! Wish I could stuff those rears in my car!!
Johnny
DriverzInc
10-07-2008, 12:55 PM
i know it'll be a longshot, but did you happen to weigh those before they got tires mounted?
Sorry, but no. I can tell you that the Livewire is one of our lightest designs, and that because of its 6061 construction, it doesn't get much lighter. Any particular reason why you ask? Typically, most wheels with this similar design, in two piece or three piece forged aluminum, are going to weigh almost the same, with the margin of maybe 1-2 lbs.
Mr.VENGEANCE
10-07-2008, 01:32 PM
dammit put em on!!
FirstGenZq8
10-08-2008, 09:17 PM
Sorry, but no. I can tell you that the Livewire is one of our lightest designs, and that because of its 6061 construction, it doesn't get much lighter. Any particular reason why you ask?
the reason i ask can be read about here: https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/showthread.php?t=48248
Typically, most wheels with this similar design, in two piece or three piece forged aluminum, are going to weigh almost the same, with the margin of maybe 1-2 lbs.
please, PLEASE don't misread this as flaming, but this is the type of answer consumers have gotten for years from high end wheel manufacturers and vendors. roundabouts and guesses just aren't enough anymore. we want actual wheel weights.
FirstGenZq8
10-10-2008, 07:29 PM
DriverzInc, will the owner of the wheels send installed pics? also, do you have anything to add to my post above?
Turbo67camaro
10-10-2008, 09:33 PM
In reality, what you really probably want, is what the wheels weigh for each different diameter and width of wheel. That is a lot of combinations to weigh. Otherwise, you may be comparing a 20" x 12" wheel vs. a competitor's 18" x 10" wheel, which is not a valid comparision, barring there is not a huge difference.
Don't get me wrong, as I wouldn't mind seeing weights too, but make sure once you get those weights that you're comparing an apple to an apple.
The reason I mentioned this is because the wheels in this thread are not the common sizes most are running.
FirstGenZq8
10-11-2008, 04:58 PM
In reality, what you really probably want, is what the wheels weigh for each different diameter and width of wheel. That is a lot of combinations to weigh. Otherwise, you may be comparing a 20" x 12" wheel vs. a competitor's 18" x 10" wheel, which is not a valid comparision, barring there is not a huge difference.
Don't get me wrong, as I wouldn't mind seeing weights too, but make sure once you get those weights that you're comparing an apple to an apple.
i agree 100%. in the thread i started i've made sure to include the weights of as many different diameters (17"-20") and widths as possible. i am trying to make it as easy as possible to compare apples to apples.
https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/showthread.php?t=48248
The reason I mentioned this is because the wheels in this thread are not the common sizes most are running.
no, but if "X" company produced a 19X10 that weighs 25 lbs or a 20X12 that weighs 33 lbs, wouldn't you want your customers to know that? that would be an excellent weight for such large and wide wheels. on the flip side of that, if "X" company's 20X12 wheel weighs 50 lbs, that really wouldn't be that great of a selling point for future customers. additionally, if "X" company's 20X12 weighs 50 lbs, that wouldn't bode well for "X" company as guesstimaters (like myself) would infer "well, if "X" company's 20X12 weighs 50 lbs, then that company's 18X10 probably isn't all that light as well."
We aren't being evasive about our weights, Jon was readying his car for a show all week and had already mounted tires on those wheels and shipped them to the Phillippines before he posted the pics and I'm trying to finish a bunch of design work before SEMA all while we're still trying to deliver a bunch of last minute wheel orders for SEMA cars so getting every design, width and diameter weighed before mounting, balancing, and shipping is pretty far down this month's priority list.
We know all about unsprung weight and how important it is to performance minded people but like Turbo67 said, there's going to be discrepancies between widths, diameters, designs and even how much mounting pad is required for different brake clearance options which we tailor for each client's needs to minimize weight and maximize wheel lip and barely being a one year old company, we haven't even made every design in each diameter much less each width so relax and put away the scale and realize that we are using aerospace grade 6061-T6 aluminum forgings and hoops not castings so nothing we make is going to be "overweight" or easily damaged. Things change when you start talking about super expensive and fragile racing wheels where the backs of spokes and mounting pads are hollowed out and hoops are thinner aluminum as well as there being a reverse rule for cheap cast wheels.
A good rule of thumb for most quality 2 piece aluminum wheels is a little more than a pound per inch of diameter on a 10" wheel if the design has decent size windows.
We're concerned about weight too and will start compiling a database but it's going to take some time.
FirstGenZq8
10-12-2008, 06:33 PM
We aren't being evasive about our weights, Jon was readying his car for a show all week and had already mounted tires on those wheels and shipped them to the Phillippines before he posted the pics and I'm trying to finish a bunch of design work before SEMA all while we're still trying to deliver a bunch of last minute wheel orders for SEMA cars so getting every design, width and diameter weighed before mounting, balancing, and shipping is pretty far down this month's priority list.
We know all about unsprung weight and how important it is to performance minded people but like Turbo67 said, there's going to be discrepancies between widths, diameters, designs and even how much mounting pad is required for different brake clearance options which we tailor for each client's needs to minimize weight and maximize wheel lip and barely being a one year old company, we haven't even made every design in each diameter much less each width so relax and put away the scale and realize that we are using aerospace grade 6061-T6 aluminum forgings and hoops not castings so nothing we make is going to be "overweight" or easily damaged. Things change when you start talking about super expensive and fragile racing wheels where the backs of spokes and mounting pads are hollowed out and hoops are thinner aluminum as well as there being a reverse rule for cheap cast wheels.
thank you for replying. i appreciate everything you said above.
A good rule of thumb for most quality 2 piece aluminum wheels is a little more than a pound per inch of diameter on a 10" wheel if the design has decent size windows.
that's why actual weights are optimum. i don't want to go by "rules of thumb" anymore.
We're concerned about weight too and will start compiling a database but it's going to take some time.
since you use aerospace grade 6061-T6 aluminum forgings and 6061-T6 aluminum hoops i really look forward to seeing some of your company's wheel weights.
might i suggest buying a nice digital scale that'll give you weight in lbs and kg. also, take pics of the wheels on the scale. whenever a new wheel is finished up, put it on the scale, snap a pic, mount a tire (or not), and ship it out.
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rsk68
09-15-2009, 06:50 AM
When is the owner of these wheels going to post some pictures of his car?
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