Wine Country Classic (Trans Am Cars)

[CurtiSS 69]

Hello,

Will anyone here be going to the Wine Country Classic 30,31 May and 1 June at Infineon Raceway too see the '66-'72 Trans Am cars in action? The 30th -Friday- they kick off with a classic car cruise too multiple wineries, lunch, photos, and cap it off with 3-4 laps of the track. I am planning on taking the Camaro for this and watch the T/A cars run on Saturday. Anyone else going? If we can get 30 cars we can get our own parking corral.

Regards

CurtiSS 69

[sik68]

I've always been interested in this event. How does it compare to the Monterey Historics?

[Damn True]

Much smaller group of cars.

The track is a bit more spectator friendly though. You can't get as close to the track as you can at Laguna, but there are more places where you can see a lot of the track from one location.

[CurtiSS 69]

IMO the Wine Country Classic is more about the cars and the racing, and the Monterey Hysterics are more for the posing and the scene. Two great events though.

Regards

CurtiSS 69

[bamadale]

i sure hope someone from that area goes and takes a lot of pics.that era of trans am cars has alway been my favorite racing series and you don't see a lot of that in the middle of nascar country.

[JEFFTATE]

There aren't any good events like this on the EAST Coast !

[Damn True]

The Mitty was earlier this month at Road Atlanta.

[JEFFTATE]

The Mitty was earlier this month at Road Atlanta.

Oh....................
Yeah.
I forgot about that.

[mpozzi]

I might go up that Friday to get a zillion or so pics ...

Cheers,
Mary Pozzi

[bamadale]

thanks!

[CurtiSS 69]

"There aren't any good events like this on the EAST Coast !" Jeff Tate.

Yes there are: http://www.historictransam.com/Schedule.htm (http://www.historictransam.com/Schedule.htm)



There are two events in Florida to kick off the season! Head down there in March of next year and soak up that wonderful sunshine, and enjoy some great racing.



Or move out here and join me, T/Aaron, and Anthony too watch and run your car on the track!



Regards



Curtiss 69

[Scalarrthu]

I love the Trans Am races. My old boss used to race (probably still does) T/A, as well as VARA and Historic Stock Car.

I know there is atleast one big race (VARA I think) at Road America. A couple years back my same boss was involved in the big accident that happened at Green Flag. Sad to see so many beautiful cars smashed up like that.

Here's his Camaro.
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[CurtiSS 69]

Better too risk wrecking them than allowing them too rot inside a garage IMHO. They could be rebuilt then and they can be rebuilt now... If it is an old racecar I guarantee the car has been wrecked before. It is completely different than an original never been wrecked street Boss 302, Z-28, or T/A Cuda or Challenger. Also body contact in these vintage events is rare. Wrecks usually occur from mechanical failure or driver error rather than aggressive driving these cars saw in their day.

Watching these guys run there cars at the Wine Country Classic got me to build an old pony car to run at the track, and I am loving every minute of it! Life is too short not too have fun!

Regards

CurtiSS 69

[David Pozzi]

Road America crash photos here: http://www.pbase.com/atrltd/bric2005

[Damn True]

Road America crash photos here: http://www.pbase.com/atrltd/bric2005

Not gonna look. Bad ju-ju.

[David Pozzi]

Not gonna look. Bad ju-ju.

True,
Those photos made me go right out and purchase a HANS device!

I feel a little safer now. I hate Hospitals and figured the HANS was a good way to keep out of them...
David

[Scalarrthu]

Road America crash photos here: http://www.pbase.com/atrltd/bric2005
Thank you! I'd been looking for those pictures but lost them a while ago. It definitely was an ugly sight.

[Damn True]

True,
Those photos made me go right out and purchase a HANS device!

I feel a little safer now. I hate Hospitals and figured the HANS was a good way to keep out of them...
David

...and I may very well do the same thing before I get serious about things. But for now, not lookin.

[CurtiSS 69]

Of course there is risk in many of the things that we do in everyday life. The chances of this type of accident happing in vintage racing is slim. The safety crews are extremely cautious. All those tended too in the photos were conscious and alert. As someone who manages risk on a regular basis. If you look at the number of laps run in all the vintage racing events all over the world and the number of severe injuries caused by impacts during vintage races there are plenty of other activities that are much more dangerous. It's not a suicide mission. I was into motorcycling in my past -I still have a CBR 600- and I lost some friends, but a lot more are alive and still enjoying it. IMHO I personally would focus on the fact that vintage racing is a wonderful activity and not limit my life by the what if's. People die driving to work everyday, or slipping in the bath tub. Everyone is different in how they manage risk, or in their perception of danger.

Regards

CurtiSS 69

[Damn True]

Don't get me wrong. I'm hardly risk averse. It's just that on three different occasions either myself, or a friend has watched one of those "motorcycle crash tapes" and then wrecked on a bike the very next day. Therefore, watching crash video or looking at photos = bad ju-ju.

[buickfunnycar.com]

Much smaller group of cars.

The track is a bit more spectator friendly though. You can't get as close to the track as you can at Laguna, but there are more places where you can see a lot of the track from one location.

Pretty much hit the nail on the head there DT...

Although I live here,I enjoy the Sonoma event much more because it is less-attended and much more fan-friendly.Plus,the T/A cars...the stars of the event to us...only run every other year here (they will run in August) whereas they are the featured race every year @ Infineon.
The field can sometimes rival the Historics and often,we see cars there that we do not see here.
Monterey unfortunately has become too political and that really takes the fun out of it...plus they jacked up the gate fees last yr to $85 for Saturday and the group of friends I had from out of town just decided to pass since there were no T/A cars anyway.
I will be @ WC both days and will snap plenty of pics so stay tuned...:twothumbs

[David Pozzi]

Don't get me wrong. I'm hardly risk averse. It's just that on three different occasions either myself, or a friend has watched one of those "motorcycle crash tapes" and then wrecked on a bike the very next day. Therefore, watching crash video or looking at photos = bad ju-ju.

What happens when he watches a porno video? :rotfl:

[Damn True]

What happens when he watches a porno video? :rotfl:

My wife is verrrrry tired at work the next day.

[Damn True]

Pretty much hit the nail on the head there DT...

Although I live here,I enjoy the Sonoma event much more because it is less-attended and much more fan-friendly.Plus,the T/A cars...the stars of the event to us...only run every other year here (they will run in August) whereas they are the featured race every year @ Infineon.
The field can sometimes rival the Historics and often,we see cars there that we do not see here.
Monterey unfortunately has become too political and that really takes the fun out of it...plus they jacked up the gate fees last yr to $85 for Saturday and the group of friends I had from out of town just decided to pass since there were no T/A cars anyway.
I will be @ WC both days and will snap plenty of pics so stay tuned...:twothumbs

Just noticed an exciting difference from last years field. There are four 2.5l and under cars enterd.

Cool!

I love the little alfa's, 510's and Bimmers!

No Pozzi with the Can-Am cats though....bummer.

[buickfunnycar.com]

Just noticed an exciting difference from last years field. There are four 2.5l and under cars enterd.

Cool!

I love the little alfa's, 510's and Bimmers!

No Pozzi with the Can-Am cats though....bummer.

Featured marque is Formula 5000 (ran 1968-1976) and I'm hearing there will be 25 cars on the grid...woot,woot!:firefire:
I'll be there with camera ready so stay tuned...:cheers:

[mpozzi]

I shot over 500 photographs and need to weed through them. I'll post up the best on zenfolio early next week ...

No one was there Friday and I had the track almost to myself. Could walk most anywhere and get photos from some normally off-limits places.

Cheers,
Mary Pozzi

[smhigh]

Perfect day at "Sears Point"

[Damn True]

I'll be there on Sunday.

[CurtiSS 69]

Hello All,

I was there yesterday and it was really incredible, as there were 39 Trans Am cars in Saturdays race. It was really fun watching the T/A cars leave two black stripes while swinging the tail exiting turn two. The Thunder and Speed of the Formula 5000's was very impressive as well. They are very quick.

Regards

CurtiSS 69

[buickfunnycar.com]

Hello All,

I was there yesterday and it was really incredible, as there were 39 Trans Am cars in Saturdays race. It was really fun watching the T/A cars leave two black stripes while swinging the tail exiting turn two. The Thunder and Speed of the Formula 5000's was very impressive as well. They are very quick.

Regards

CurtiSS 69

Sorry we didn't hook up man,I didn't get your msg until way late in the day...darn cell phones.:hmm:
It was a fantastic time with beautiful weather...
Back at my office today so when I get a chance to sort through my pics,I'll load them up and present them.

[buickfunnycar.com]

Perfect day at "Sears Point"

That car is owned by Tom & Susan Armstrong from WA and two nicer people you will not meet.

[buickfunnycar.com]

Looks like I took just over 100 pictures and have narrowed down the count to the best 74 and have uploaded those to my Photobucket account.I will attempt to post them this evening if the internet connection cooperates.

Stay tuned all you Trans-Am fans.:firefire:

[Damn True]

Ditto, plus the requisite crappy videos.

I have a few things to do in the garage, but will be able to get after it early this evening.

[buickfunnycar.com]

Let me try to do this quick and put all my pictures up at once before you guys comment so it'll all be continuous.So...in no particular order:

1st time out in a long while for this beautiful '68 Javelin.Last time I saw it several years ago @ Laguna,it got balled up and then sold.It was unrestored at the time and now has undergone a complete resto and looks stunning:
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Canadian Sunoco sponsored '70 Camaro:
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Vic & Christy Edelbrock:
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Without a doubt,the loudest T/A car out there...
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[buickfunnycar.com]

Trans-Am Alley:
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Tom McIntyre's beautiful,completely original '68 Sunoco Camaro:
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[buickfunnycar.com]

Tom Armstrong's '68 Sunoco Camaro which won the first 2 races of the '68 season:
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Yes...drum brakes:
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Some of Ken Epsman's stable.Noticeably missing is the '69 Sunoco Camaro,undergoing restoration
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#42 Cuda:
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[buickfunnycar.com]

Man...I love this car!
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AMC lovers...this one's for you:
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Sam Posey '70 Challenger:
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F-5000 cars,the featured marque which ran from 1968-1976:
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[buickfunnycar.com]

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Stunner!
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Anybody say Can-Am...?
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[buickfunnycar.com]

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FIA Cobra:
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Historic Stock Cars and man...there were a ton of them!
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Group 5,Cobra's & Vette's:
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[buickfunnycar.com]

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As you can see by the sky,the weather was picture-perfect and the wine/food was flowing.I strongly suggest you mark your calendars and make this event next year...you will not be dissapointed.:cool:

That's all I got for now guys,thanks for looking.

[CurtiSS 69]

John,

Excellent photos!

Regards

CurtiSS 69

[vanzuuk1]

The f 5000 cars are insane.

[bamadale]

Great pics! we appreciate you sharing them!

[JEFFTATE]

"There aren't any good events like this on the EAST Coast !" Jeff Tate.

Yes there are: http://www.historictransam.com/Schedule.htm (http://www.historictransam.com/Schedule.htm)



There are two events in Florida to kick off the season! Head down there in March of next year and soak up that wonderful sunshine, and enjoy some great racing.



Or move out here and join me, T/Aaron, and Anthony too watch and run your car on the track!



Regards



Curtiss 69

Dang !
I need to get out more!
Thanks for the info.
Sounds like a road trip to Fla. or CA. is in order.

[Damn True]

I'll post up the pics then come back through and add captions where needed.

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[buickfunnycar.com]

Man...and I thought mine were big!:rolleyes:

Good angle from where they come off the track,I never thought of shooting there.:cool:

[Damn True]

The T/A guys are about the only ones you can shoot there. The rest come flying through there because of gearing and goofy idle circuits.

[shortrack]

Awesome shots.....all of them.....!!!!!

very much appriciated!!

[sik68]

I went too! It was awesome, but I felt like I was the youngest guy there, haha. Here's some of my pics:

My Favorite 68 there:
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kit car, which had side exhaust AND rear exhaust...so there must be a cutout?
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Blackest car EVAR!
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But he was having tranny problems!:
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Ferrari:
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More Ferrari:
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RARE:
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Original z06:
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/06/IMG_3232-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/06/IMG_3226-1.jpg

Awesome Steve Urkle car (Isetta)
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/06/IMG_3242-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/06/IMG_3243-1.jpg

[CurtiSS 69]

Wow! You guy's are great photographers! Watching all that great footage DT took...I can't wait to get my car out there on the 28-29 June! I hope Anthony sees the footage of the number 64 Camaro, as it looks a lot like his car. Very cool! I hope Mary can get her car out there for next year's event.

Regards

CurtiSS 69

[MrQuick]

Nice shots guys. Thank you.

Any more interior shots John?

Haahaaaa, play all the videos at once and its almost like your are there!

[sik68]

Here is a video clip I took of the garage area with the formula 5000 cars parading to the track entrance.

http://www.vimeo.com/1121298

[buickfunnycar.com]

Any more interior shots John?

From the last couple of years:

Gary Cove/Mark Donohue '67 Z/28 Camaro owned/driven by Terry Miller:
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2007/12/DSC03708-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2007/12/DSC03709-1.jpg

1969 Sunoco Camaro owned by Ken Epsman and driven by Jimmy Hague:
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2006/12/DSC00756-1.jpg

Warren Agor '70 Camaro (believed to be the 3rd Chaparral team car) now owned & driven by Ed Dwyer:
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2007/12/DSC03474-1.jpg

[Samckitt]

Is this the fuel fill "cap"?
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/06/DSC05466-1.jpg

Why so big? How does it work & so on?

[Damn True]

30ga of gas in about 10sec that's why.


I have some interior shots that I can put up. Didn't think anyone would want those.

[sik68]

My co worker went with me and got these amazing shots with his crazy camera:

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/06/RCS_8162-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/06/RCS_8186-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/06/RCS_8204-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/06/RCS_8216-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/06/RCS_8218-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/06/RCS_8232-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/06/RCS_8251-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/06/RCS_8312-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/06/RCS_8339-1.jpg

[sik68]

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/06/RCS_8348-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/06/RCS_8360-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/06/RCS_8367-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/06/RCS_8378-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/06/RCS_8390-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/06/RCS_8393-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/06/RCS_8406-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/06/RCS_8414-1.jpg

[buickfunnycar.com]

Is this the fuel fill "cap"?
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/06/DSC05466-1.jpg

Why so big? How does it work & so on?



True...quick fuel stops were just as important back in the day as they are today.
Penske even had a pressurized oil line inside the cockpit so that oil could be added during pitstops and the crew wouldn't have to mess with a hot engine compartment.If you look closely at the interior picture I just posted,you can see it attached to the roll bar just to the left of the steering wheel.
Soon after,every team installed a similar unit somewhere on the car.

[Damn True]

Man I want a digital SLR with a nice lens. My camera takes good static photos but anything in motion....forget it.

[buickfunnycar.com]

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/06/DSC05469-1.jpg

[David Pozzi]

It's somewhat of a Smokey Yunic thing. The fuel cell size was limited by the rules, but the fuel FILLER was NOT! Extra fuel could be held in the filler, probably another 3 gallons or so.

[JEFFTATE]

It's somewhat of a Smokey Yunic thing. The fuel cell size was limited by the rules, but the fuel FILLER was NOT! Extra fuel could be held in the filler, probably another 3 gallons or so.

That's sneaky ......, and smart !

[jackfrost]

man, those Javelins are sweet. seems to be the only arena in which they are popular.

[buickfunnycar.com]

Awesome pics sik68...tell your buddy he done good!:headbang:

[hangten]

thanksfor the great pics.

quick question...what size rims and tires are they running on the T/A mustangs and cameros? Anyone have a good source for panasports?

[CurtiSS 69]

man, those Javelins are sweet. seems to be the only arena in which they are popular.rr

Jack

Your '74 Javelin is one sweet ride. Those Trans Am AMX's really run well. AMC's used to be popular -back in the day- at the strip around these parts (NorCal Bay Area). There was a famous race at the Wednesday night drags at Fremont Drag Strip where a '68 Javelin beat a Big Block Corvette (we were all in shock). It was the talk of the school for weeks. There were also a load of Rambler SC Scramblers around here too. AMC's are cool IMO.

Regards

CurtiSS 69

[buickfunnycar.com]

thanksfor the great pics.

quick question...what size rims and tires are they running on the T/A mustangs and camaros? Anyone have a good source for panasports?


All those car still run 15" wheels,either Minilights or Phil Schmidt wheels.

[hangten]

like 15x7 front 15x8 rears? any idea on tire sizes these guys run?

[David Pozzi]

The rules required a maximum width of 8" on a 15" wheel. In the later 70's, the rules got very liberal and cars became more like the IMSA cars.

[ITLBTU]

awesome pics! Were the numbers on the wall in the pic with the gas pumps in the background the price of race fuel? What were the 3 grades? I guess it's been a while since I bought race gas.

[buickfunnycar.com]

Because Infineon has an NHRA dragstrip,they offer octane as high as 116 which the Pro Stock cars run.I believe that was $9.99/gallon.
I pay $6.28/gal for 110 locally...