1975 Monza as a G-Machine track car? thoughts on different cars?

[Steve1968LS2]

Well I am in the process of trying to find a good car to build as a project. It needs to be relatively cheap to get and be workable, as in something reasonable for the average joe to build if he wanted to get into some track events. Commonality of parts made me think GM but I am open to ideas.

It also needs to be 1975 or older to avoid CA's draconian smog laws.

Thoughts? Opinions? Car Suggestions?

Again, this will be a STREET car that can be driven to the event and raced until the doors fall off ( not being litteral ;). I want to show the average reader how accesible this sport is and that they don't need to spend $15k or $20k to have fun.

Thanks in advance for the input.

[parsonsj]

I've done some V8 Vegas in the past. They have a triangulated 4 link rear suspension, so you can tune with shocks and springs a little easier than with a leaf spring.

Front suspension is designed for an aluminum L4, but later Monzas came with V6s and even a V8 in 1979 or so. Putting a V8 in 'em is a snap, but be ready for lots of body flex and associated problems. Also, with a V8 the weight distribution isn't very good, as the engine 2nd spark plug is lined up with the front spindle centerline. So think aluminum engine (can you say LS1?), lots of spring, and a replacement tranny and rear end to hold up to the power.

The cars were made very very cheaply, and tended not to have much of a lifespan. Finding good bodies can be hard, though down in SoCal it may be easier than here in the east. I gotta admit, I do like the old H-bodies.

jp

[Steve1968LS2]

I've done some V8 Vegas in the past. They have a triangulated 4 link rear suspension, so you can tune with shocks and springs a little easier than with a leaf spring.

Front suspension is designed for an aluminum L4, but later Monzas came with V6s and even a V8 in 1979 or so. Putting a V8 in 'em is a snap, but be ready for lots of body flex and associated problems. Also, with a V8 the weight distribution isn't very good, as the engine 2nd spark plug is lined up with the front spindle centerline. So think aluminum engine (can you say LS1?), lots of spring, and a replacement tranny and rear end to hold up to the power.

The cars were made very very cheaply, and tended not to have much of a lifespan. Finding good bodies can be hard, though down in SoCal it may be easier than here in the east. I gotta admit, I do like the old H-bodies.

jp

Funny, I found a 1975 Monza that said it came with a 350 V8.. Here is the ad: (looks fairly clean and its local, it the sunbelt)

http://adcache.collectorcartraderonline.com/10/6/3/77832463.htm

I am open to other suggestions as well.. the older the better. What would you guys like to see?

[Fuelie Fan]

1975 was both the first year for the Monza nameplate and the first year for v8s. The first year was a 350, then they went down to (I think) anemic 265s, then back up to 305s, according to some monza website I just looked at and then closed and am now too lazy to re-open!

[Lowend]

If you want a cheap open track car a 70-81 Camaro is the best it gets.
If you look hard you can find them for under $2000. The factory suspension geometry is quite good, and there are tons of parts out there for them.

I would say you could very easily build one into a good open track car for less than $20K.

Figure
$7000 for the motor
$1400 for brakes
$300 for Subframe connectors and solid bushings
$1000-$2000 to refurb the whole suspension
$2000 to fab a cage
$2000 for wheels and tires

And you are done... (except for alll the little stuff that will make you nuts)

[TonyL]

what about a maverick? those things look awsome fixed up. and are cheeeeeep

[Steve1968LS2]

Keep the idea coming.. I like them so far :)

I want more people to embrace the whole "build it and race it" idea for our segment. I want to show what you can do on a limited budget.

I thought about doing a 2nd gen Camaro but Johnny already has a 76 fbod that is getting the treatment... don't want to get repetative. Does not mean its out of the question though.

I was thinking of early mustangs as well. You can still find decent ones for $5k or so..

Mavericks are cool too but I'm not sure how well they respond to mods.. hmmmm

Keep the thoughts going..

[Steve1968LS2]

Example of a low buck Mustang..

http://adcache.collectorcartraderonline.com/10/5/7/77755657.htm

With Johnny's Chevy this would be nice for the Ford guys :)

[nancejd]

Why not an AMC, that would be way different.

[Steve1968LS2]

Why not an AMC, that would be way different.

Maybe a little TOO different.. ;)

I am starting to lean tword a Ford.. I didn't realize that 65's and 66's could still be gotten so cheap (guess I am used to first gen fbod prices).. I guess they are cheap because so many came with 6 cylinders.. besides, my first car was a 64.5 Mustang with a 6cyl so I have a weak spot for them

Besides, it seems like there are TONS of chevy project cars out there.. Gotta look out for the Ford guys too.. And parts/upgrades are plentiful..

Thoughts and a 65-66 Ford Mustang budget "average guy" track car?

[Bill Howell]

I know you know this, but check any early stang for hidden rust issues. They don't call them rustangs for nothing. I would stick with GM myself. If for no onther reason, resale value when you get tired of it. A 68 or 69 chevelle would be differant or 78 to 87 malibu. There is alot of bolt-on stuff for them and they are still reasonably priced if you are really looking to do a budget build.

[TonyL]

i did find this...
http://www.hotrod.com/roadtests/67119/
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif

which was inspired by this drawing. and it kills me that this drawing has never been built, exactly as shown. I mean, how cool is this?
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif

[gmachinz]

How old can you go, Steve? How about a Falcon? Or, obvioulsy a Chevy II? You say average Joe? I'd go for a Pro-Charged 4.3 in a Corvair! That's different! Okay, okay-I'm getting out there.....I have always liked the Mavericks-let's see.....they came with 302's, fairly light, I'd go for one of them. Or at leats consider an early 70's Duster, Satellite-whatever the hell they called them-LOL -Jabin

[USAZR1]

Believe it or not,California was the only state that Monzas had 350's(two bbl.carbs). 75 Monzas were only available with 262 V8's or four bangers. I purchased a brand new 1977 Monza Mirage(looked like an IMSA car) off the showroom floor with 305" two bbl and TH250 trans.
CA Mirages were avalable with the above-mentioned 350's.

[Steve1968LS2]

Believe it or not,California was the only state that Monzas had 350's(two bbl.carbs). 75 Monzas were only available with 262 V8's or four bangers. I purchased a brand new 1977 Monza Mirage(looked like an IMSA car) off the showroom floor with 305" two bbl and TH250 trans.
CA Mirages were avalable with the above-mentioned 350's.

Thanks for the info.. Did they make many Monzas? I did a search and there are like 20 for sale in the entire country.. none in CA. Oh, and some of those are four-doors..

And I know about Mustang's rust issues (front lower corners of the doors, etc) but I would get a cali car and rust out here is minimal. hmmmm, much to consider..

Thanks :)

[USAZR1]

Back in the day,there were quite a few Monzas out there. Nowadays,I rarely see them now. The desireable ones,if they can be found,are the Spyders and Mirages. The latter are pretty rare though,I'm sure.

[BigCat]

I say Maverick all the way. I just bought a '72 two days ago for a song and a dance. Of course it does have the 200 6cyl w/ 3 on-the-tree. Plus it was completely rust free. Desmond's sketch spawned my purchase! Go Maverick!!!

Here's another good looking Maverick:
http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/613510

Lucas

[HILROD]

I have never seen a four door , but there were coupes. They had trunks not hatchbacks. I've had several. The best one I had was from California. It had a 350 4 speed and a 9 inch rear. One of the limiting factors is tire size. Not only the width but how tall. I put 225 50 16 tires on the rear and 205 on the front. If you put much taller than stock tires they hit the wheelwells and quarters. Weld in subframe connecters are a must. Frank :firefire:

[paulk68]

A 65 Corvair. I saw the yenko stinger at carlise one year and it was a great looking car also, they are pretty cheap.
Paul

[[email protected]]

if not a monza around the 78 year one of these would be cool

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=39410&item=4523990573&rd=1

[Steve1968LS2]

if not a monza around the 78 year one of these would be cool

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=39410&item=4523990573&rd=1

What is this, Trucking Magazine??? :lmao:

Although them trucks are way cool when done up. Whatever it is it HAS to be 1975 or older. I refuse to play with the smog nazis here in CA...

[Steve1968LS2]

I have never seen a four door , but there were coupes. ...

My mistake.. I was thinking of 4 door Mavericks.. I have been looking at so many cars that I am getting dizzy...

[bnoon]

I'd personally like a Chevy Chevette with a 4.3L V6 swapped in. Late model 6 speed trans and some floor hacking to get it to fit (I assume) would be cool because the rear trans pattern is the same as one piece seal V8 from '86+ (up to LS years anyway). Coil springs all around make it easy to change spring rates, combined with regular shocks = easy setup. You can pull the front spindles/calipers/rotors from a Fiero or Fiero GT to get bigger front brakes for cheap too. Most expensive part would be the trans and even that isn't critical to the project... Run a 5 speed from a Camaro/Firebird if it's out of budget reach. Limited to about a 225/50/15, but that looks freaking huge sticking out from under a Chevette!!!

The 4.3 takes many V8 parts (minus rods). Hotrod did a pretty basic build on one and came out with 400 horse if I remember right. It's on their website...

[TonyL]

there are a few pt corvairs (ours being one) out there. A HUGE plethora of parts are available making later corvairs awesome track cars. They have 4 wheel indipendant suspension, decent power, unibody construction, and a engine mounded right behind the rear wheels.

finding decent brakes is a challange. But not impossible. I'd love to see the corvair go mainstream, but to many gearheads the flat six is just too weird. Ours will use the manifold from a subaru wrx and possibly the turbo setup as well.

[TonyL]

then of course there's always the corv-8.

Here's how it's done right, (http://www.corvair.org/chapters/v8vairs/images/NorrisRick/ricknorris.htm)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif

[phonedude_mln]

Maybe a little TOO different.. ;)

I am starting to lean tword a Ford.. I didn't realize that 65's and 66's could still be gotten so cheap (guess I am used to first gen fbod prices).. I guess they are cheap because so many came with 6 cylinders.. besides, my first car was a 64.5 Mustang with a 6cyl so I have a weak spot for them

Besides, it seems like there are TONS of chevy project cars out there.. Gotta look out for the Ford guys too.. And parts/upgrades are plentiful..

Thoughts and a 65-66 Ford Mustang budget "average guy" track car?


one reason 64.5/66 mustangs are still reasonably priced is that they
made so many of them; > 0.5M in the first year alone. and is
pointed out below, many were plain-jane 200I6, auto, etc. but
utlimately, this is the ideal configuration if you are going to
upgrade everything anyway. no sense paying for a factory 4 speed
if you're putting in a T5 anyway...

with only minor differences, early mustangs are just re-skinned
falcons. and mavericks are just re-skinned falcons. so must
of the suspension, drive train, etc. pieces will interchange.
falcons, mavericks, etc. can be found very cheap. not PT,
but here is an attractive 1965 Falcon:

http://www.napaliprop.com/surfdogstaged

1967 Falcon:

http://www.tffn.net/ident/67car.html.

1968-1969 Fairlane / Torinos can still be had relatively cheap:

http://www.fairlaneclubofamerica.com/cars6869.htm

many mustang parts will swap with these models as well.
these models look good in NASCAR trim, which is frequently
similar to the 2-tone paint schemes that are currently en vogue:

http://okeefe.home.mindspring.com/stockcarmodel/dpearson_68torino.jpg

and some day, when I have crazy $, I'm going to indulge
myself in a 1970 Mercury Cyclone Spoiler:

http://www.lovefords.org/70bic/1970_mercury_cyclone_001.jpg

having said all this, you should be aware that Ford prices
and availability of parts are no where near as cheap or plentiful
as for Chevrolet.

[bnoon]

Gotta admit, I like that NASCAR look, though I would pick a Monte/Cutlass/Grand Prix from the late 70's to early 80's... Just without the hideous paint jobs. Minimal interiors (but keep AC for those hot summer days) and bring in some stock car truck arm suspensions with weight jacks and call it NASCAR-Touring or something. Hummmmmmmmmmmmm

[Steve Chryssos]

Go into the PHR archives and find this issue:
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August 2000

[MuscleRodz]

Lets see.

1. Monte Carlo
2. '61/'62 baby Buick with GN motor (what I am thinking of)
3. Laguna
4. Falcon (Some mustang interchange)
5. Corvair with mid mounted LS1 and C5 transaxle
6. Maverick wouldn't be bad, my aunt had one with a 289
7. AMC
8. Lemans
9. Dodge Dart
10. Plymouth Duster
11. Cutlass
12. Vega

That is all that come to mind in one sitting.

Mike

[TonyL]

then there are the 80s fairlanes and zephers. fox bodys under the skin, everything bolts right on.

[Nine Ball]

That Monza is fugly. yuck! If you want to go small, a Vega or Vega wagon would be cool.

How about something really different? Maybe a 67-68 Cougar? Otherwise, that old Mustang would be of alot of interest to readers.

Or, just do a nice 1st gen Firebird. They are alot cheaper than Camaros and all the parts are the same underneath.

[[email protected]]

i agree a vega wagon would be nice as well

[MuscleRodz]

Thought of one more, Pontiac Ventura.

Mike

[TonyL]

i think someone at PHR is already working on a ventura.

[Steve1968LS2]

That Monza is fugly. yuck! If you want to go small, a Vega or Vega wagon would be cool.

How about something really different? Maybe a 67-68 Cougar? Otherwise, that old Mustang would be of alot of interest to readers.

Or, just do a nice 1st gen Firebird. They are alot cheaper than Camaros and all the parts are the same underneath.

Yea, I was looking at 1st gen birds but I am "trying" to not do a chevy since the last few cars have been GM's. Since I am buying the starter car it has to be reasonably priced. It also has to have some sort of aftermarket and be a car that the average guy wouldn't mind building. It can't be too big since I want to auto-x it and road track it. If its lower budget it can't be too heavy since that would take more HP to move and HP costs money. It should be older than 1975 since smog laws are a bitch here in CA.

Cars I like for this:

Maveric
65-66 Mustang
67ish Cougar
65 Falcon
Vega's are cool
Monza's aren't the best looking but can be worked with
2nd Gen Camaro but its very close to Johnnys current project.

Would also like to find some Buick options.. Maybe the next one..

Steve Deitrick is going to be messing with some mopars (Duster) so thats covered. Basicly I want to try and draw more people into our segment and show them you can have fun for not a TON of $$$.

Thanks for all the input, this magazine belongs to all of you and your opinions matter quite a bit to us.

[LS1Z28]

Steve, If you need a vega I know a guy who owns 31 of them and all the hi-po parts you could want for one.

[TonyL]

heh. road race a pinto...

Linky (http://advanced-autosports.com/images/md_71_5.jpg)

[Maverick Man]

Sorry to change the subject from a monza build up however I noticed this post that was quite intresting and made me want to speak out.

Just so you know I’ve been on this site quite some time now and really haven't introduced myself.. infact Tony Huntimer (thanks tony) told me about this site about over a year ago. I also might have popped my head in a few times in chat but seems like most of you guys are Chevy guys and wasn't to sure what the heck you would think about my heap. however after reading a few posts like


what about a maverick? those things look awsome fixed up. and are cheeeeeep

and




…. Mavericks are cool too but I'm not sure how well they respond to mods.. hmmmm

..

it kinda convinced me maybe I should write something. Obviously as you can see in the pictures below (if they come out) I own a maverick… if you wanna call it pro tour or not I would say its fallen in the this “type” of group somewhere. I have had this car since 1988 however this car was finished about 2 years ago. Two magazines have already shot it but it never came out.. oh well…. not to mention another magazine which totally blew me off… by me just mentioning it was a Maverick without giving me a second chance to even show them pictures. Infact I was hoping to get it in a magazine before year ones car made it in with their carbon hood since my was done a year before that car was even started. Oh well.

Anways, besides the cheap half butt paint job, some welding and some of the carbon fiber work, I have done the whole car myself in my garage with a cheap jackstand and tools that don’t work. And to answer your questions does it run? yes it does.. times? Before the super charger and N2O it ran mid 13’s with only 232 hp to the wheels, low 12’s with a 100 shot set up totally wrong … might I add on street tires… Now with the supercharger and the two stage nitrous.. well I don’t know… maybe not much faster with these tires but it gets out of its own way. Besides that what I have my other Maverick for… Drag racing, so personally I’d rather be able to drive this car then it then race it… You ask, can it handle… well a lot better then my AWD Subaru I will tell you that. Could it handle on a road coarse? Well give me a few more bucks to up grade to a global west suspension and a nice Richmond 6 speed it probably would. Remember like someone said here already… Mavericks are the same thing as a mustang underneath… in fact they road race Mavericks in Brazil!

Anyway sorry to change the subject but I thought it was a good leeway for me to introduce myself.

This is a nice site you guys put on here.. hope to open my big mouth here more often.

p.s. hope these picutres come out and hope there isn't a rule on posting images

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2005/02/bluemaverick2004-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2005/02/carbonfiberhood2-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2005/02/EngineBlueMaverickwBlower-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2005/02/InteriorBuleCar-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2005/02/NXpolishedtwins-1.jpg

[Nine Ball]

That Maverick is sweeeeet! Damn nice job on it.

Steve, honestly, not many performance-purpose built 60s Mustangs out there. Tons of cars and parts available. Maybe build a Trans-Am racer type '65-66 Mustang. Bare bones interior, full suspension, healthy 302ci with a power adder, 5-speed tranny, etc...

Most early Mustangs are dog slow. They make me yawn.

[Steve1968LS2]

Sorry to change the subject from a monza build up however I noticed this post that was quite intresting and made me want to speak out.

Just so you know I’ve been on this site quite some time now and really haven't introduced myself.. infact Tony Huntimer (thanks tony) told me about this site about over a year ago. I also might have popped my head in a few times in chat but seems like most of you guys are Chevy guys and wasn't to sure what the heck you would think about my heap. however after reading a few posts like


Anways, besides the cheap half butt paint job, some welding and some of the carbon fiber work, I have done the whole car myself in my garage with a cheap jackstand and tools that don’t work. And to answer your questions does it run? yes it does.. times? Before the super charger and N2O it ran mid 13’s with only 232 hp to the wheels, low 12’s with a 100 shot set up totally wrong … might I add on street tires… Now with the supercharger and the two stage nitrous.. well I don’t know… maybe not much faster with these tires but it gets out of its own way. Besides that what I have my other Maverick for… Drag racing, so personally I’d rather be able to drive this car then it then race it… You ask, can it handle… well a lot better then my AWD Subaru I will tell you that. Could it handle on a road coarse? Well give me a few more bucks to up grade to a global west suspension and a nice Richmond 6 speed it probably would. Remember like someone said here already… Mavericks are the same thing as a mustang underneath… in fact they road race Mavericks in Brazil!

Anyway sorry to change the subject but I thought it was a good leeway for me to introduce myself.

This is a nice site you guys put on here.. hope to open my big mouth here more often.


Sorry to have paraphrased your post ;)

To me it's guys like you that make it interesting and give us something new to look at. Your car is truly bad ass and I don't get why the other mags didn't run you car. I love Camaros but hell, lets face it, it's nice to see something different for a change.

Emaill me at [email protected] because I want to talk with you about you car and pass your info onto the guy that does our features :)

In the end the cars are what we make of them. I think we all agree that most cars have the capability to be cool if in the hands of someone with talent and the courage to try something different.

Hope to see ya around the site more and by the way.. kick ass car you have there.. :)

[JV69z/28]

How about an Oldsmobile Omega (really a Chevy Nova). Nobody ever builds an Oldsmobile. It would be a nice tribute to Gm's one time oldest division. There's plenty of parts for it. You could even pull an Olds motor from a late 70s Pontiac T/A if you wanted to keep it all Olds. If not the Chevy possibilities are endless. If the budget wasn't so tight you could get an old Olds drag race (prostock block) and convert it to a streetable motor. Suspension choises are endless. You can build the car the E-bay Nova should have been. With killer stance and wheels and tires that fill the wheelwells and still not break the bank. You can use the new style Olds emblems or air brush the latest logo to help give the car a modern look. That's a very different brand car but all the build up and tech articles would be very mainstream. Oh well I'll stop now. Good luck in your quest - Jack

[TonyL]

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2005/02/bluemaverick2004-1.jpg

yes! that car deserves a feature. (I see a "top gun" reference in there somewhere)

Im so glad you decided to join in. We need more diversity around here, the more of us with cars that arent chevys the better, pro-touring is about well rounded performance in any old car. So yours belongs here. hopefully this will bring the others who are lurking out of the shadows.

[jeffandre]

I recall a Hooker? Monza from the 70's in a Car Craft mag I believe that had a widebody kit. Using today's technology you could setup an LS1 or similar, and I bet with aftermarket suspension and mods you could fit 275"s+ all the way around. It was a cool looking car IMO, one I would have been proud to own and tweak on.

[TonyL]

how cool is this thing?

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2005/02/DekonMonza1-1.jpg

[MrQuick]

that one is cool, I saw it down in Pamona. Hey Steve I say go with something that will be worth money later, you soak $20 grand in a Monza what will it be worth to people? If you like that body maybe find a Cosworth Vega...still can be had cheap if you look. I say find a 71 Cuda or 65-66 fastback Mustang.

[TonyL]

the huge by large tail was bothering me so...
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[Steve1968LS2]

that one is cool, I saw it down in Pamona. Hey Steve I say go with something that will be worth money later, you soak $20 grand in a Monza what will it be worth to people? If you like that body maybe find a Cosworth Vega...still can be had cheap if you look. I say find a 71 Cuda or 65-66 fastback Mustang.

Yea, this was my thought as well. I have to buy the initial car so it would be nice to have it worth something when its done. I saw that red car for sale yesterday.. I think they wanted $25k for it, yikes!

Im leaning tword a 65-66 Stang done in a vintage racing look. Could run it in real track events and have a blast. I am pretty sure that for about $12-$15k it could be a damn fun track car. Maybe less? Down the road I also want to do something a little more different like a Maveric, Ventura or so sort of buick. I think the Mustang track car project would have the widest appeal to readers, it's considered a "main stream" cool car, is pretty plentiful, has a good aftermarket and should retain some value when its done. Best of all it's not a chevy (need to expand my pallet).

Hell though, tommorow I could change my mind ;)

[Steve1968LS2]

the huge by large tail was bothering me so...
http://img222.exs.cx/img222/2884/monza6my.jpg

Much better than with the wingzilla.. :)

Here ya go, you can have your very own:

http://adcache.collectorcartraderonline.com/10/1/6/77909716.htm

[Maverick Man]

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2005/02/bluemaverick2004-1.jpg

yes! that car deserves a feature. (I see a "top gun" reference in there somewhere)

Im so glad you decided to join in. We need more diversity around here, the more of us with cars that arent chevys the better, pro-touring is about well rounded performance in any old car. So yours belongs here. hopefully this will bring the others who are lurking out of the shadows.

well thanks for the warm welcome guys.. i always search around message boards to meet intresting people and get ideas. glad to feel part of the deal here with a ford.

just so you know i really built this car which really anyone could build in their own garage... not something to crazy like troy or boyd, cuz i don't think the avarage person can afford something to be done up like that. even more so because its a maverick.

trust me i would have loved to have a camaro or chevelle or something but man i'm sorry, people want way to much for them. a maverick was something i could afford and it was a bit differant (guess that goes along with the name "maverick") i guess i like being differant anyways.. but then again in the long run, it might be cheaper to do a car that is more common.

guess this goes back to the orginal topic of building something differan... i don't know how many of you have tried to do up a car that no one makes repo parts for. Cuz not only are you modding up one of these things but your restoring them too. junk yards these days are becoming more scares to find parts in these day. every time i go to the bone yards all i find are fox bodys, k cars and imports. but i guess if your just using the shell i guess it don't matter but then again thats more money.

i guess you could say if you wanna bulid something see whats avaliable for it first before you get over your head in trying to find parts.

again thanks for the warm welcome.

[Steve1968LS2]

well thanks for the warm welcome guys.. i always search around message boards to meet intresting people and get ideas. glad to feel part of the deal here with a ford.

just so you know i really built this car which really anyone could build in their own garage... not something to crazy like troy or boyd, cuz i don't think the avarage person can afford something to be done up like that. even more so because its a maverick.

trust me i would have loved to have a camaro or chevelle or something but man i'm sorry, people want way to much for them. a maverick was something i could afford and it was a bit differant (guess that goes along with the name "maverick") i guess i like being differant anyways.. but then again in the long run, it might be cheaper to do a car that is more common.

guess this goes back to the orginal topic of building something differan... i don't know how many of you have tried to do up a car that no one makes repo parts for. Cuz not only are you modding up one of these things but your restoring them too. junk yards these days are becoming more scares to find parts in these day. every time i go to the bone yards all i find are fox bodys, k cars and imports. but i guess if your just using the shell i guess it don't matter but then again thats more money.

i guess you could say if you wanna bulid something see whats avaliable for it first before you get over your head in trying to find parts.

again thanks for the warm welcome.

Did you get my email/PM?? If not then email me at [email protected]

Oh, and where are you located??

:)

[Piet]

Unrecognized potential.

Chevs

1970's Monzas
1970's Vegas
1970's Chevettes
1970's-80's Omega's,
1980's-90's Safari Vans (strip the interiors)
1980's Impalas


Fords

1970's Torinos
1970's Galaxies
1970's Ford Courier Pick-ups
1970's Mavericks
1970's Comets
1990's Focus'


Chryslers

1970's Plymouth Volare
1970's Dodge Aspen
1970's LeBarons
1970's Cordobas
1960's New Yorker
1970's 300 Series

[Piet]

Of course there are the late 2nd Gens and Early 3rd Gen Camaros.... They are real cheap right now... (not for long though)

[Steve1968LS2]

Of course there are the late 2nd Gens and Early 3rd Gen Camaros.... They are real cheap right now... (not for long though)

Yea, if only I had a warehouse and some extra $$$ :) Those cars are only gonna go up.

Won't work for my project though since Johnny is already doing a 76 Camaro.

It will most likely be a 66ish Mustang since you can still find them for good prices, readers will be able to relate to it, it's not a chevy, it will hold its value and it's not a chevy :)

Thanks for all your input. A lot of these ideas will find their way into one of our "cars you should build" story.

[socalfandabodys]

Hey Steve,
How about
64-72 buick skylarks fast with class. they can be had running for $2000 and almost all chevelle parts interchange with them and they arent ugly 64-72 pontiac le mans same deal as the skylarks
64-75 el caminos they cost about half of what a chevelle would cost

[Steve1968LS2]

Hey Steve,
How about
64-72 buick skylarks fast with class. they can be had running for $2000 and almost all chevelle parts interchange with them and they arent ugly 64-72 pontiac le mans same deal as the skylarks
64-75 el caminos they cost about half of what a chevelle would cost

I like the buick idea.. I am gonna have to research what kind of parts cross over with them. See, there you go screwing with my plan ;)

Thanks!

[DanT69]

I've been convinced for some time now that a Ford Torino would make a bad ass PT car. I see them for cheap, they have a relatively attractive design and the only thing that kept me away from one is, for a real amatuer like myself, the fact they are not that common I dont want to bite off more then I can chew.

My other suggestion would be a 70-73 240z, but thats japanese so I think its out of the question...... Or a Pontiac Catalina, but that would be Behemoth-Touring, not Pro-Touring.

[Conekiller13]

Don't forget about this car..............too bad it's been totaled :rolleyes5