California Old Car Emissions Exemption Threatened

[Chucks73]

California Old Car Emissions Exemption Threatened
Here we go again

Old Car Emissions Exemption Threatened in 8 California Counties; Hearing Scheduled for April 1

Legislation (S.B. 1549) has been introduced in the California State Senate by Senator Dean Florez ([email protected]) to repeal the state’s current emissions test exemption for pre-1976 vehicles registered by new owners in the San Joaquin Valley Unified Air Pollution Control District. The District includes eight counties in California’s Central Valley: San Joaquin, Stanislaus, Merced, Madera, Fresno, Kings, Tulare and the valley portion of Kern. Under the bill, after Jan. 1, 2009, new owners seeking to register a pre-1976 vehicle in these eight counties would be subject to emissions tests for the life of the vehicle. S.B. 1549 is scheduled to be considered by the California Senate Transportation and Housing Committee on April 1, 2008.

We Urge You to Call, E-Mail or Fax Senator Florez and Members of the Senate Transportation Committee (List Attached) Immediately to Oppose S.B. 1549

Existing law in California exempts all pre-1976 vehicles from emissions testing.


California’s current emissions testing exemption recognizes the minimal impact of pre-1976 motor vehicles on emissions and air quality.


Pre-1976 vehicles constitute a small and shrinking portion of the overall vehicle population in California and are a poor source from which to look for further emissions reductions.


Pre-1976 antique and classic vehicles are overwhelmingly well-maintained.


Repeal of the exemption in the San Joaquin Valley could lead the Legislature to target other areas in the state in the future.


Legislators and regulators are again feeling the heat from a failed effort to meet air quality goals and are looking for a convenient scapegoat. The old car hobby should not carry the burden of their mistakes, as it has in previous amendments to the old car exemption!
Please phone, fax or e-mail Senator Florez to express your opposition to S.B. 1549. Senator Florez can be reached at:

E-Mail: [email protected] ([email protected])
Phone: (916) 651-4016
Fax: (916) 327-5989

Please phone, fax or e-mail members of the Senate Transportation and Housing Committee to express your opposition to S.B. 1549

California Senate Transportation & Housing Committee

(Click here to email all Committee members)

Senator Alan Lowenthal – Chair
Phone: 916/651-4027
Fax: 916/327-9113
Email: [email protected] ([email protected])

Senator Tom McClintock
Phone: 916/651-4019
Fax: 916/324-7544
Email: [email protected] ([email protected])

Senator Roy Ashburn
Phone: 916/651-4018
Fax: 916/322-3304
Email: [email protected] ([email protected])

Senator Gilbert Cedillo
Phone: 916/651-4022
Fax: 916/327-8817
Email: [email protected] ([email protected])

Senator Ellen Corbett
Phone: 916/651-4010
Fax: 916/327-2433
Email: [email protected] ([email protected])

Senator Bob Dutton
Phone: 916/651-4031
Fax: 916/327-2272
Email: [email protected] ([email protected])

Senator Tom Harman
Phone: 916/651-4035
Fax: 916/445-9263
Email: [email protected] ([email protected])

Senator Christine Kehoe
Phone: 916/651-4039
Fax: 916/327-2188
Email: [email protected] ([email protected])

Senator Jenny Oropeza
Phone: 916/651-4028
Fax: 916/323-6056
Email: [email protected] ([email protected])

Senator Joe Simitian
Phone: 916/651-4011
Fax: 916/323-4529
Email: [email protected] ([email protected])

Senator Tom Torlakson
Phone: 916/651-4007
Fax: 916/445-2527
Email: [email protected] ([email protected])

Senator Leland Yee
Phone: 916/651-4008
Fax: 916/327-2186
Email: [email protected] ([email protected])

Please e-mail a copy of your letters to Steve McDonald at [email protected] ([email protected])
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[TonyL]

thread stuck. Don't let this happen guys. Forward this to everyone you know. Email and send letters to your senators. Shoot this sucker down.

[fiorano]

what horse pucky
pre 1976 vehicels compose of a minutia of driven cars, WTF it is money isn't it
diesel still do not have to be smogged, and the new law suggest all new Post 2009 vehicles diesel power, willbe smogged, as long as they are under 6000lbs or something which mean still no trucks being smogged.
i hate california, and the new motorcycle smog law
do they not want Motocycles in the traffic, or economy?
no the hotrod industry is threatene again? and next- no racing in california tracks...

[steemin]

Good Luck my Californian bretheren.
This is one of the few times I can post that I am damn glad I live in Indiana where they don't perform emission testing or inspections on our cars:twothumbs
Scott

[zbugger]

Dean Florez is an idiot. I'll tell him that straight to his fatass face as well. This ****head wanted to have cars 60 years old smogged. He's clueless as to what will help the environment, and is only out for making money by taking bribes (or what amounts to them) from special interest groups. This fool introduced a bill to get farmers to water the dirt roads on their land to keep the dust in the valley down, knowing full well that water isn't an abundant commodity in the valley. Oh, and what happens when the wet dirt dries? Heh.... Dust storm yet again. The fool has to get a clue, or the people in his district have to pull their heads out of their asses and get this moron out of office. He's doing nothing to help his community, and he's a waste of space in Sacramento.

[Jim Nilsen]

Dean Florez is an idiot. I'll tell him that straight to his fatass face as well. This ****head wanted to have cars 60 years old smogged. He's clueless as to what will help the environment, and is only out for making money by taking bribes (or what amounts to them) from special interest groups. This fool introduced a bill to get farmers to water the dirt roads on their land to keep the dust in the valley down, knowing full well that water isn't an abundant commodity in the valley. Oh, and what happens when the wet dirt dries? Heh.... Dust storm yet again. The fool has to get a clue, or the people in his district have to pull their heads out of their asses and get this moron out of office. He's doing nothing to help his community, and he's a waste of space in Sacramento.

The letter I sent told him to get a clue about 3 times. He truly is an idiot moron who got elect and wants to get bills passed to get a name for himself even if it is mud and from what you just said he even tried to pass a bill to make it too!

I live in Illinois but I didn't tell him that. I asked him if he was going to put emissions on military Hummers next ?

I say send him to Iraq and let the plane run out of fuel and tell him it was to save on fuel emissions as the plane goes down !!!!!! When he asks where his parachute is the pilot can tell him he should have passed a bill for that before he continued to fly after the last plane crash that would require one for every passenger!!! Then he might realize the number 1 factor in all plane crashes is gravity and being a bad Senator,lol.

The law of physics will always be more powerful than the laws of man !!!

[406 Q-ship]

I knew this idiot would start this again.......let the big industry pollute willy nilly and buy their way out by scrapping cars that don't get driven enough to make up .000000000000001 % of the crap they put out. This freakin State is so screwed up, and the morons here keep voting for the same idiots.

Save the State of California.......somebody please go to Sacramento and take all the elected government idiots out (both parties), then the morons in this State will have to elect new idiots.:help:

The last person to leave the State of California, please turn out the lights!

[406 Q-ship]

I just read the test of s.b. 1549, all it does is remove the exemptions for the San Joaquin Valley, but it does not state what vehicles it would go back too, this could cover ALL VEHICLES powered by internal combustion engines going back to Model T's if they descide too. No where in the existing law does it state the years covered anymore, only that prior to 1976 is exempt. This a law that none of us in the Untied States can allow to pass, it opens a door to smogging all vehicles and I do mean ALL!!!! This is exactly how the pointed head liberals get this crap started, and those in the other 49 states believe this can't happen or that "My State will not make such laws", if a polititions smells fresh money you will be in their gun sites. HELP!!!!!!

[b25]

like I said in this thread (http://www.chevelles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=217284) over at Chevelles.com, I'm a bit shocked to see this topic go with such minimal response. The "it doesn't affect me" crowd and their naive outlook on what the future will hold is about as ridiculous as the politicians who support these bills.

Come on guys.... it'll take you 5-10 minutes to write a GREAT letter, and maybe less than 2, to fire off a couple one liners stating your disapproval!

-B

[3cRider]

Alright, I fired off an e-mail to everyone on the list and forwarded this thread to everyone I know! If anyone would like my simple letter as a template to make things easier please pm.

Thanks all!

[CRCRFT78]

all it does is remove the exemptions for the San Joaquin Valley

Thats all they need is one county to get their foot in the door. Then they'll try and make a case for all of the other counties in the state to have the law changed. Can't we elect someone that is a car enthusiast. WTF

[Jim Nilsen]

Did this make it to the floor for a vote?

[J-Rod]

CURRENT BILL STATUS


MEASURE : S.B. No. 1549
AUTHOR(S) : Florez.
TOPIC : Smog check program: San Joaquin Valley Unified Air
Pollution Control District.
HOUSE LOCATION : SEN

TYPE OF BILL :
Active
Non-Urgency
Non-Appropriations
Majority Vote Required
State-Mandated Local Program
Fiscal
Non-Tax Levy

LAST HIST. ACT. DATE: 03/27/2008
LAST HIST. ACTION : Set, first hearing. Hearing canceled at the request of
author. Set for hearing April 8.
COMM. LOCATION : SEN TRANSPORTATION AND HOUSING
HEARING DATE : 04/08/2008

TITLE : An act to amend Section 44011 of the Health and Safety
Code, relating to air pollution.

Looks like Florez postponed it till the 8th.

[class67]

What's worse is...I am in San Joaquin county!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[zbugger]

Still time to hire a hit man...:usa:

[J-Rod]

Still time to hire a hit man...:usa:

/me pays Allen 5 bucks and hands him a bottle of ketchup

Get em!

[3cRider]

If anyone else has the time please send a letter expressing your utter disagreement with the idea! Every bit counts!

[zbugger]

/me pays Allen 5 bucks and hands him a bottle of ketchup

Get em!

Damn... I miss that now. Thanks.:getout:

[J-Rod]

COMPLETE BILL HISTORY


BILL NUMBER : S.B. No. 1549
AUTHOR : Florez
TOPIC : Smog check program: San Joaquin Valley Unified Air Pollution
Control District.

TYPE OF BILL :
Active
Non-Urgency
Non-Appropriations
Majority Vote Required
State-Mandated Local Program
Fiscal
Non-Tax Levy

BILL HISTORY
2008
Apr. 3 Set, second hearing. Hearing canceled at the request of author. Set
for hearing April 15.
Mar. 27 Set, first hearing. Hearing canceled at the request of author. Set
for hearing April 8.
Mar. 12 Set for hearing April 1.
Mar. 6 To Com. on T. & H.
Feb. 25 Read first time.
Feb. 23 From print. May be acted upon on or after March 24.
Feb. 22 Introduced. To Com. on RLS. for assignment. To print.


Postponed again till the 15th. Keep those emails/phone calls rollin folks!

[3cRider]

If anyone has a few minutes please shoot them an e-mail or drop them a line!

Thanks

[Chucks73]

New info.:nopity:


http://www.smogrfg.com (http://www.smogrfg.com/)

Looks like everything changed the smog law bill might changed to a classic licence plate bill. Maybe your letters worked.:cool:

[3cRider]

Good, I posted it up on several boards. I still would keep an eye on them though :throw:

[1969CamaroRS]

Now just need to vote out the crazy legislator that penned the bill in the first place :box:

[406 Q-ship]

SEMA eNews, Vol. 11, No. 17 - Apr 24, 2008
OLD-CAR EMISSIONS EXEMPTION NO LONGER THREATENED IN EIGHT CALIFORNIA COUNTIES


Working with California old-car hobbyists, SEMA convinced California Senate legislators to amend legislation that sought repeal of the state’s current emissions test exemption for pre-1976 vehicles registered by new owners in the San Joaquin Valley Unified Air Pollution Control District. The District includes eight counties in California’s Central Valley.

Under the original bill, after Jan. 1, 2009, new owners seeking to register a pre-1976 vehicle in these eight counties would have been subject to emissions tests for the life of the vehicle. Under the amendment, the repeal language was removed and the bill instead now requires the DMV to study the state’s special license plate programs and recommend improvements.

:box:

[chaz75]

which means what?, are they going to study license plates or what. chaz

[camcojb]

I think it should be criminal to run a bill through congress and then when almost approved to completely change it's contents like they did with this one. It was originally written as something completely different, not even related to cars, and then right before it would be passed the author changed all the wording to be about smogging older cars. Total b.s. and those guys should be voted out of office, and up on criminal charges in my opinion.

Jody

[Jim Nilsen]

I think it should be criminal to run a bill through congress and then when almost approved to completely change it's contents like they did with this one. It was originally written as something completely different, not even related to cars, and then right before it would be passed the author changed all the wording to be about smogging older cars. Total b.s. and those guys should be voted out of office, and up on criminal charges in my opinion.

Jody

You are starting to sound like me and when there becomes a whole country that starts to wake up to what is going on we will need to just turn the capitol buildings into makeshift prisons for awhile. I say just get them all together for an emergency session, lock the doors and start sorting them out as they cop their pleas on Cspan and Cspan2 live and we have an internet vote the likes of American Idol.

[mayhem148]

i dont understand why california is so strict with emmisions. i mean, whats the point when you got 49 other states that arent near as strict are dont even test at all. its not like cali is going to stop ozone destruction on its own.

i got my truck inspected with open headers 1 time. the dude didnt even ask are look at my truck. i signed a paper gave him 10 dollars and he gave me the sticker. I HAD TO PUT IT ON!:screwy:

ill try to put something together to help the guys in cali. i know thats got to suck for yall. in a place were ther is so much hotrodding and were everything custom pretty much comes from you have a government that is doing everything it can to shut it down.

[Later-A-body]

California has always lead the way regarding emission testing. Part of the reasoning is the geographic topography of California. You are surrounded by mountains and valleys that make it easy for a build up of pollution. In the summer there are days when you can't see the mountains due to the heavy smog layer. I can tell you it has improved greatly over the last 30 years. When I was a kid in the late 70's, I would always get a pain in my chest from the smog if you were outside playing. The state used to call 1st and 2nd stage smog alerts all the time. Now you never hear about them. It has alot to do with the improved emissions for cars, factories, etc. The emission testing is needed, but it can be a real pain. At least they have been able to stop most of these lame attempts of politicians trying to impress the public with their senate bills. Our cars account for less than 1% of registered vehicles, and we dont drive them daily.

[bigvegan]

" Our cars account for less than 1% of registered vehicles, and we dont drive them daily."

True, but if you do the math on how much more polluting a car with no fuel injection / catalytic converters / etc. is than a modern car (several hundred %), it adds up pretty quickly.

Then you pull up an air quality map of L.A., like the MATES III air toxics carcinogenic risk map - http://www2.aqmd.gov/webappl/matesiii/ , or read about how freeway pollition is damaging children's lungs - http://articles.latimes.com/2007/jan/26/science/sci-lungs26, and making people pollute less doesn't seem like such a bad idea.

I mean, if you're spending thousands of dollars on fixing up an old car, a few hundred to make it pollute less wouldn't be the end of the world.

These laws won't kill hotrodding, it's not like the aftermarket companies aren't making catalytic converters and electronic fuel injection systems already, so I'm sure they'd be happy to make more of them.

They still sell the new Corvettes in CA, so it's not like you can't have high performance AND reasonably pollution-free vehicles.

[406 Q-ship]

" Our cars account for less than 1% of registered vehicles, and we dont drive them daily."

True, but if you do the math on how much more polluting a car with no fuel injection / catalytic converters / etc. is than a modern car (several hundred %), it adds up pretty quickly.

Then you pull up an air quality map of L.A., like the MATES III air toxics carcinogenic risk map - http://www2.aqmd.gov/webappl/matesiii/ , or read about how freeway pollition is damaging children's lungs - http://articles.latimes.com/2007/jan/26/science/sci-lungs26, and making people pollute less doesn't seem like such a bad idea.

I mean, if you're spending thousands of dollars on fixing up an old car, a few hundred to make it pollute less wouldn't be the end of the world.

These laws won't kill hotrodding, it's not like the aftermarket companies aren't making catalytic converters and electronic fuel injection systems already, so I'm sure they'd be happy to make more of them.

They still sell the new Corvettes in CA, so it's not like you can't have high performance AND reasonably pollution-free vehicles.

For the number of miles driven on a older model car is so small that even with it not being tested the air quality isn't effected. I don't think that any of us have an issue with the state doing smart testing, but testing isn't about being smart, it is about money in California. Besides the standards are so loose on a old car that you are not cleaning the air effectively. They allow a new car under 6 years old to not be tested, so a new car that is driving every day that is having an issue like a Service Engine light with a failed emission system that is being driven 40 miles a day in daily commute is a bigger poluter. It is only about money in this state.

[PonchoJohn]

"
These laws won't kill hotrodding, it's not like the aftermarket companies aren't making catalytic converters and electronic fuel injection systems already, so I'm sure they'd be happy to make more of them.


The problem is that it's ILLEGAL to install a catalytic convertor on a vehicle not originally equipped with one.
Stupid? Yes.
IM240- Inspection/Maintenance 240 second test (loaded chassis- real world running conditions)- Why does it matter what's under the hood? If the goal is to reduce emissions, what's it matter if I run a blown mountain motor on alcohol- as long as it puts out less pollution? More stupidity.
If I add fuel injection to pre-injection motor, I have to smog the vehicle as if it was the model-year vehicle of the fuel injection. Dumb!!

[jeffandre]

I'll say it again. I care about what comes out of a tailpipe, not what components are on a car to make the tailpipe emissions acceptable. I agree that we can have high performance and some form of reasonable emissions control on older vehicles, unfortunately elected officials are no different than big busines, to mired up in red tape to think effectively...

It will interesting to see how the smog laws 'evolve' over the coming few decades. Maybe I need to start thinking electric motor, at least I won't be smogged!!! ;-)

[wmhjr]

I mean, if you're spending thousands of dollars on fixing up an old car, a few hundred to make it pollute less wouldn't be the end of the world.

These laws won't kill hotrodding, it's not like the aftermarket companies aren't making catalytic converters and electronic fuel injection systems already, so I'm sure they'd be happy to make more of them.

They still sell the new Corvettes in CA, so it's not like you can't have high performance AND reasonably pollution-free vehicles.

Huh? So figure this one out for us. I'm currently building a street/strip car that "might" get 500 miles on it in a year in a good year. Keeping the Pontiac block, but to make good power I'm spending a lot of time and money with aftermarket heads, porting, custom roller cam, solid lifters, custom carb build, etc. Due to the valve train design, making good (well over 500hp) power but staying streetable isn't cheap or easy. So now I can make it low emissions for a few hundred dollars? Exactly how do I do that?

And has anyone thought of the polution it creates in doing this? The needless consumption of materials for the cat converters?

Not retaining an exemption for classic/antique vehicles may well be one of the dumbest political moves I've heard of in decades. It accomplishes virtually nothing, but adds cost. It's political grandstanding.

Your position would completely eliminate restorations. No longer would a '66 GTO with a tripower be able to roam the streets - regardless of the fact that it is restored to exactly how the car was delivered to the dealer. That Hemi Cuda? Sorry - you can't start it up. The Shelby GT500? So sad - keep it in the garage. So many of our glory days icons would be left to rust - or maybe just sell to people living someplace else. It wouldn't kill hot rodding? Really? The heart of hot rodding is the teenage or 20 yr old with a few tools and a desire to learn creating something. This legislation would absolutely kill the hobby in California - formerly one of the meccas for car building.

[martZ]

"

These laws won't kill hotrodding, it's not like the aftermarket companies aren't making catalytic converters and electronic fuel injection systems already, so I'm sure they'd be happy to make more of them.


These laws are killing hotrodding. Every law makes it harder to enjoy our hobby. It parallels the 2nd amendment battle.

Tree pollen is bad for my lungs are we going to limit pollen emissions? Where does it end?

IMO, there's not too many scents that are better than unburned fuel spewing from my exhaust while my engine is @ idle due to the overlap of the cam. Is it bad for the environment? You could argue that it is but I could give a cr*p.

[a73formula]

So did this thing get knocked down or is it still out there? Living in washington I get worried with this stuff cause we always seem to do whatever california does.

I also gotta add that engine emissions come from how efficient your engine is. The majority of us maybe put 1k or 2k miles a year on our cars and are built with aftermarket heads and all that fancy stuff which makes your engine run more efficiently therefore making more power and all that fun stuff. Theres no need to add other smog stuff for that reason. Also a carb tuned right will run just as clean as fuel injection it just takes someone that knows what there doing.

My .02

[406 Q-ship]

It was killed......again, but it will be back. This Bozo has done this same crap year after year.

[Rocco]

I remember when I was looking to buy a Mustang well over a decade ago and the smog law here in CA was that everything 1965 and older was smog exempt, and anything 1966 and newer had to be smog tested.
So I purposely bought a '65 to avoid the hassle and enjoy building whatever I wanted. Things got better when they exempted the later 60's era muscle cars too. But it seems that every year or so we get revisited with the latest attempt by some crusaders to put our old beauties in a car crusher!! I'm glad it continues to fail, but we need to be forever vigilant.

[f-body]

Is this the same thing I read about in Classic trucks Magazine. The Article was on GM's new E Rod crate engine that will be emissions legal in all states and actually get emisions approval.

The article went on to state that California has drawn a line in the sand stating the vehicle will have to comply to the emissions requirment of the year of the engine. So if you put a 2010 LS engine in your 1967 Camaro you now have to comply to 2010 standards.

The E-rod engine kit is an entire kit with engine, ecu, emisions equuipment, exhaust manifolds ect ect. The kit is emissions compliant for any car.

GM working with Sema and CARB ect ect has now made it easier to keep your car legal. Or so they say. You can thank GM for this or should we say Government Motors.

This is how they will eventually try to get all the old cars off the road. For years I have seen all the fastest street cars, street legal titles all over magazines. Knowing these cars were entirely not street legal as far as inspections were concerned.

Antique or classic tags, come on eventually they will get wise to this also. Since here in Texas an antique vehicle can only legally be driven in parades or for car club functions. Classic tags have mileage limits also. And even if you can drive it whenever you want if your insurance finds out you drive your classic or antique registered vehicle more than you claim or have a wreck driving your car to work when you are not suppost to then its all on you and they may not cover your or the dmage you cause. Just FYI. Kind of like Farm tags on a Expedition or an Escalade, I have seen it many times but no one says anything about that.

Its almost as bad as low income being allowed to bypass emissions here in Texas because you are low income. Sorry but we all get screwed equally. In texas if you are pulled over without insurance your car is towed until you provide proof of insurance. Now proof of insurance is all loaded up on the computer so police can check without even asking for your insurance card.

Almost every pickup I see has removed the catalytic converter. I know lots of people that remove the cats from thier newer cars. Eventually it will all come around and they will be forced to comply.
Now they have gotten more involved and have actually started looking to see if all the emissions equipment is there. Now I live outside Dallas so I dont have the actual tailpipe test yet but its comming. My car will fall under the years that are to old for them to test.

I run a SY1 Smokey Ram cross ram on my 74 Camaro and it has no EGR. Well my car came with one from the factory. So I used a Ford 4 barrel spacer with EGR installed under the holley carb. This was the only way I could get my car to pass the visual inspection.

I know on this board that the LS swap is very popular. The engine is clean powerful and the engines can be found from low mileage vehicles.

I wont have to worry since I dont plan on doing the LS swap, I will keep my Gen 1 small block in my 74 Camaro.

What I think a lot need to realize is you need to find ways to work through the problem not just bypass it by installing a new engine in older classics and hoping they never find out.

I have always wondered how those of you in emissions states like California have gotten a 1969 Camaro inspected with a 2010 engine installed?

[f-body]

As far as emissions in California you will never be able to clean up the air unless Mexico does thier part also. Do you think pollution stops at the border??

Several years back when there were fires in Mexico, we were covered in smoke all the way up to Dallas.

California cannot fix the problem by itself. So tell all of your politicians to start putting pressure on Obama to put pressure on Mexico and tell them to do thier part.

[T_Raven]

I wouldn't mind moving to Cali, but stuff like this is the main reason I probably won't.

[Ron L]

There is no testing for cars 1975 and earlier here. So put what you want in it.

Yes we're all miserable here. Stay away.

[CRCRFT78]

The new E-Rod motors should help out with the emissions if they would lower the price on them.

[andrewb70]

I honestly don't see what the problem is. There have been numerous guys that have swapped LSx engines into RX7s in California. The only stipulation is that you have to keep the factory emissions equipment that came on the engine. In the case of LSx engines, that just means cats. Modern cats flow well and don't loose much power at all.

Andrew

[T_Raven]

There is no testing for cars 1975 and earlier here. So put what you want in it.

Yes we're all miserable here. Stay away.

lol, well currently anything pre 76 is exempt but this whole thread is about that being threatened. And it's not just the automotive laws that drive me nuts, it's the gun laws.......oh yeah, and all the dirty hippies don't help either, and I don't know if it's just San Francisco or all of Cali, but there are some serious weirdos in that city.

[camcojb]

I honestly don't see what the problem is. There have been numerous guys that have swapped LSx engines into RX7s in California. The only stipulation is that you have to keep the factory emissions equipment that came on the engine. In the case of LSx engines, that just means cats. Modern cats flow well and don't loose much power at all.

Andrew
well, they require that you keep ALL the emissions equipment intact, which is also the electric smog pump, vacuum for the fuel tank and system for vapors, etc. Also the cats must be the factory ones, must be in exactly the factory location (no long tube headers because they move the position of the cat). We cannot buy aftermarket cats here anymore, even if they're legal for California. Must be purchased by an approved installer, no Summit, Jegs, etc.

It is doable, but in the case of the RX7 you're thrown in the smog program and have to be tested every two years. Cam swaps, blowers, turbos, etc. probably wouldn't fly without a carb EO# for the part (a mild cam with a good tune should get through).

Jody