View Full Version : Which million dollar hood hinges to get?
Whistler
03-11-2008, 10:58 AM
Are the DSE hinges the same as Ring Bros? Has anyone used the Fesler ones? The DSE ones look easier to adjust but the Fesler ones have a stainless strut rod...
redhead
03-11-2008, 11:07 AM
I know I'm wrong but I am boycotting all of them for these outrageous pricetags.
realizing, of course, that it is not their fault. you millionaires just
keep throwing money at them.
Whistler
03-11-2008, 11:13 AM
My stockers look fine to me done in polished ceramic coating, but I tightened up all the gaps on the car and the factory hinges (new GM ones) wobble too much and make the hood rub.
So I guess I'll have my butler jump in the Lear and go grab some billet ones :)
class67
03-11-2008, 11:23 AM
I think they are all pretty much comparable in quality. I have the Ring Bros. and they work exceptionally well...smooth operation, hood opens / closes much easier.
vp23271
03-11-2008, 11:48 AM
They are pricey, but look soo trick. The DSE and Ring Bros almost look identical. The Feslers are slightly different and less "angular".
LowBuckX
03-11-2008, 12:14 PM
If ya spent that money on good engine parts you wouldnt have your hood open so much to notice the hinges arent blinging... LOL
tumper93
03-11-2008, 12:23 PM
I bought the Feslers with clear anodizing and I like them a lot and have no issues like what I have heard about the DSE/Ring Brothers having. I heard theirs would hit the inner fenders when shutting on some, cannot remember for sure.
Steve1968LS2
03-11-2008, 01:08 PM
I know I'm wrong but I am boycotting all of them for these outrageous pricetags.
realizing, of course, that it is not their fault. you millionaires just
keep throwing money at them.
lol.. how much should they be? How much could you make a set for?
Steve1968LS2
03-11-2008, 01:10 PM
For a Camaro I would get the Ring Bros ones. The adjustable cam makes aligning the hood a snap. I mean REALLY easy.
Both of them are quality products and make the hood operate silky smooth.
Whistler
03-11-2008, 01:23 PM
Do the DSE ones not have that cam?
Do the DSE ones not have that cam?
I believe DSE sells Ring Bros. hinges.
Steve1968LS2
03-11-2008, 04:01 PM
Do the DSE ones not have that cam?
The DSE ones are made by the Ring Bros, so yes they have the cam.
Whistler
03-11-2008, 04:07 PM
That's what I was after. Thanks!
MarkM66
03-11-2008, 04:58 PM
Don't worry, "Profession Products" will soon come out with a set made in China for $199.99 . ;-)
Gordz32
03-11-2008, 05:22 PM
I have a set on the chevelle and was pretty much forced into getting them as the goodmark hood was bending slightly because of the resistance of the stock rebuild hinges. Love them though and the fesler ones ( at least on the chevelle) don't have the alignment cams. by the way I have two sets of rebuilt and powdercoated chevelle hinges for sale.
awesometool
03-11-2008, 06:12 PM
The dse hinges are nice but you will need to installed small rubber bumper or they will hit when fully open.
LowBuckX
03-12-2008, 03:36 AM
Don't worry, "Profession Products" will soon come out with a set made in China for $199.99 . ;-)
IM thinking $149..
Fesler built
03-12-2008, 04:32 AM
Billet hood hinges cost what they cost because of what goes into making them. Have you ever sat and looked at some of these hinges, really take a look at them and notice how much they move through the motions, this is something that is not an easy task to recreate. It takes us weeks to design and build a set that works. If it was so easy everyone out there would be making them including the factory. They have spent timeless hours fabricating the ugly metal ones that have lasted for years.
Ring Brothers makes a great product and they sell the same part to DSE, they make very cool parts and the cars they build are top notch a very talented group over there. As for the hood hinge they have 2-3 applications while we build over 10 cars a year and needed hinges and other parts for these cars that were not available and we have almost 10 applications with a ton more in the works. 55-56 will be shipping next week and 67-72 Chevy C-10 around Delmar so as you can see we have a full section of the shop dedicated to producing new applications monthly. Remember competition is what makes all of us keep doing what we are doing with out it we would all be driving the same cars.
I hope someone does make them in China as the quality will not be there, we have things made over there for another company and the saying is true, YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR. All the hinges are nice and the competition is good for all of us, that being said we took the hinge to a new level with top of the line bearings, SS hardware and SS struts something the competition cant do for the price. The major thing we did was design the hinge to follow the lines of the car and look seamless when installed.
As for the Cam it is not needed, there is no extra alignment that you gain from it. Has anyone out there noticed that not one factory hinge has this? You get all the adjustment you need from our hinges not to mention you get Weather pack bearings, Stainless hardware and Stainless Steel struts.
Whistler
03-12-2008, 05:12 AM
I'd still buy the $600+ ones even if someone ripped you off with a chinese copy. I only buy the overseas stuff when there's no alternative.
trapin
03-12-2008, 05:31 AM
I love how they look, expecially the billet finished ones against a dark paint job. If I had the money, I wouldn't think twice.
Steve1968LS2
03-12-2008, 06:31 AM
As for the Cam it is not needed, there is no extra alignment that you gain from it. Has anyone out there noticed that not one factory hinge has this? You get all the adjustment you need from our hinges not to mention you get Weather pack bearings, Stainless hardware and Stainless Steel struts.
First let me say that you do offer a huge selection of hinges, and the SS strut deal is very nice.
Technically it's true that the cam is NEEDED and that it doesn't give you EXTRA alignment. But it does make alignment a ton easier. Instead of having to loosen bolts and move the whole hood or hinge you can pivot the hood by adjusting the cam. It's a nice feature they have just like you have nice features they don't have.
And comparing to a factory hinge really isnt fair, they do what is the cheapest way to get the car out of the factory.
Your hinges are very nice and some great features. The biggest one being that you continue to develope applications. Can't wait to check some of them out at Del Mar.
MuscleRodz
03-12-2008, 06:49 AM
We sell both Ring Bros and Fesler hinges. The quality in both is pretty much the same. We average a set of hinges every 1-2 weeks. I used to never think I would pay $650+ for hinges but if you got all the Marquez and Twist machine stuff installed, it just makes sense to have it all. And that is what alot of our customers have been doing lately, either finishing what they started, or buying it all at once from us.
Charley Lillard
03-12-2008, 12:18 PM
Does the Fesler hinge on Camaro open the hood as far as stock ? More ? Less ?
Fesler built
03-12-2008, 12:32 PM
The only question I have on the Cam is that if you extend them out to much for adjustment it makes it a week point and we have seen them snap.
First let me say that you do offer a huge selection of hinges, and the SS strut deal is very nice.
Technically it's true that the cam is NEEDED and that it doesn't give you EXTRA alignment. But it does make alignment a ton easier. Instead of having to loosen bolts and move the whole hood or hinge you can pivot the hood by adjusting the cam. It's a nice feature they have just like you have nice features they don't have.
And comparing to a factory hinge really isnt fair, they do what is the cheapest way to get the car out of the factory.
Your hinges are very nice and some great features. The biggest one being that you continue to develope applications. Can't wait to check some of them out at Del Mar.
Fesler built
03-12-2008, 12:34 PM
You will loose about 1/2-2 inches depending on all your front end alignments, we have had cars stay almost the same and some loose 1-2 just depends. it is not enough that it effects anything you do under the hood. Our hinges do not hit the body or inner fender well as well so you will get no marks on the car it self.
Does the Fesler hinge on Camaro open the hood as far as stock ? More ? Less ?
Chris you should invite them to watch the cnc mill a set out. Preferably when a bit goes bad $$$$.
We are getting ready to launch a few billet items and I can tell you that both Jim and Mike Ring and Feslers hinges are actually pretty reasonibly priced when you take into consideration the cost of alum., R&D, cnc time (not to mention the cost of the machine itself), pistons, ball bearings, rod ends, assembly time, even packaging. I am sure they will tell you that the profit is minimal when you consider the amount of time invested.
Steve1968LS2
03-12-2008, 01:14 PM
The only question I have on the Cam is that if you extend them out to much for adjustment it makes it a week point and we have seen them snap.
If you have to adjust them that far you have other "issues" lol
Not saying they are that ultimate deal. But they are handy for minor adjustments.
I just saw some of your Chevelle hinges.. sweet!
John McIntire
03-12-2008, 01:22 PM
hey Steve, of Hot Rods by Steve, I don't live that far from you, I like your work, especially that Nova you built that was copper colored and had those huge Mickey Thompson tires out back. I actually got to meet Mike Lipencott who did the interior, nice work. He's a friend of a friend and just recently covered a friends seat for his chopper. Hopefully he comes back to NJ soon, I'd like for him to do my interior when its time!
Anyways, nice work!
John
Fesler built
03-12-2008, 01:23 PM
thanks man, and I did not respond to start a war, just to what we found on that.
If you have to adjust them that far you have other "issues" lol
Not saying they are that ultimate deal. But they are handy for minor adjustments.
I just saw some of your Chevelle hinges.. sweet!
Fesler built
03-12-2008, 01:25 PM
Yeah a lot of guys just dont get why they cost so much and as you said we wont get rich of these its all by the numbers and just think I have to buy 1000 struts at a time, 800 thrust washers at a time to even start to get a deal on the stuff.
Chris you should invite them to watch the cnc mill a set out. Preferably when a bit goes bad $$$$.
We are getting ready to launch a few billet items and I can tell you that both Jim and Mike Ring and Feslers hinges are actually pretty reasonibly priced when you take into consideration the cost of alum., R&D, cnc time (not to mention the cost of the machine itself), pistons, ball bearings, rod ends, assembly time, even packaging. I am sure they will tell you that the profit is minimal when you consider the amount of time invested.
Steve1968LS2
03-12-2008, 02:27 PM
thanks man, and I did not respond to start a war, just to what we found on that.
It's all good.. :)
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