View Full Version : Why AFX spindle/ Tube LCA
B.W.T.ROAD
03-05-2008, 04:59 PM
I have a 69 Camaro. Pro Touring all the way, but not yet. Probably more street than track but smooth ride, not really a concern. My thought: SPC uppers, stk lower with the del alum bushings, upper ball joint extender, 2" Eibach spring and stk spindles modified for C5 brakes. The right way would be: SPC uppers, AFX spindle, 1" springs and maybe new lowers of some kind.
What would be the advantage of buying spindles/ lower arms?
TitoJones
03-05-2008, 05:16 PM
The advantages of the spindles are quite vast- Unsprung weight savings, bumpsteer correction, improved camber gain, larger wheel bearings, accepts C5/C6 brakes without the need for machining the spindle or getting new hubs/brackets, wheel speed sensors for traction control retrofitting, replaceable ball joint inserts that will allow the forging to never wear out over torque cycles, etc. The lowers would only provide an advantage if you were to run coil overs but if you don't; Del-a-lums in factory lowers are just as good.
Tyler
B.W.T.ROAD
03-06-2008, 09:04 AM
Thank you. That totally answered my question.
Marcus SC&C
03-10-2008, 09:47 AM
I hate it when I`m late to a party but I`ll throw in another $.01 anyway. Tylers dead on about the spindles of course. There is a new LCA that actually have a few advantages over stock though. We helped develop them with SPC Performance over the last 2 years and they`re finally out (although not on our site yet,blame our slow web guy!). To start with they stronger but lighter and more rigid than most of the competition and come std. with greasable delrin bushings. That`s cool but not huge. There are some neat new features built into them though that make them a worthwhile addition,although they`re still not required parts by any stretch. The first is adj. ride height with normal springs,via laser cut spring shims. They`re also built to accept modern progressive rate jounce bumpers, a big step up from old school rubber bump stops and a quantum leap ahead of the little decorative poly bumpstops on many tubular arms. It`s one of those little the devil`s in the details things. The geometry is also altered to accomodate modern alignment settings. We all run a LOT more + caster than the cars came with and that tilts the spindles back toward the firewall and puts the wheel off center in the wheel wells compromising tire clearance. The altered geometry recenters the wheels in the wheelwells for max tire clearance and a clean factory appearance. All of the arms accept coil overs or conventional springs and most models offer additional sway bar end link mounting holes to tweak the sway bar`s motion ratio and rate too. Again no single feature is huge and Earth shaking but added together they make these arms a really smart choice. For folks planning on tubular lower A arms anyway they`re really a no brainer. Mark SC&C
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/03/1stgenSPC1B-1.jpg
DarkoNova
03-10-2008, 07:53 PM
Hey Mark, what applications are those arms available for and how much are they? Any 1st gen Camaro/3rd gen Nova arms?
Matt
AnnDee4444
03-13-2008, 03:59 PM
How about g-body/s-10?
HectorM52
03-17-2008, 05:17 PM
How about g-body/s-10?
Yes, they are.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/02/IMG_2747sized-1.jpg
64Chevelle
04-07-2008, 11:50 AM
In case anyone wonders, I just got confimed from SC&C that these are available for the 64-67 A-body as well. They really look like a quality piece, in my book they are a must-have upgrade...
I placed my order yesterday for a complete suspention (including those new lca's) for my 65 elcky so I let you know when I get them in. I have to say Mark really knows his stuff and is more than willing to discuss all the pro's and con's, even when someone elses product may be a better choice.
I must have done a 100 hrs of research before I made my choice. Now I just gotta decide on wheels....maybe another 100 hrs...lol
Marcus SC&C
04-11-2008, 12:30 PM
Sorry for the pokey response,too much to do and not enough me to go around. :doh:
The SPC tubular lower arms are available for 1stGen F body,`64-`72 A body and `78-`88 G Body and S10 (drill out 2 bushings to S10 size). Coming very soon 2nd Gen F body,`73-`77 A body and `78-`96 Impala. We have them in stock at $548pr. (with greasable delrin bushings) along with an assortment of tuning parts such as progressive rate jounce bumpers,urethane and aluminum spring seats in 5 thicknesses etc. I can`t wait to get them on the site but we`ve been having server and web site guy issues for the last 3 months. I think we`ve got it pretty well squared away though and we hope to get these and a lot of other new stuff up on the site in the next few weeks. Mark SC&C
Damn True
04-11-2008, 12:47 PM
I hate it when I`m late to a party but I`ll throw in another $.01 anyway. Tylers dead on about the spindles of course. There is a new LCA that actually have a few advantages over stock though. We helped develop them with SPC Performance over the last 2 years and they`re finally out (although not on our site yet,blame our slow web guy!). To start with they stronger but lighter and more rigid than most of the competition and come std. with greasable delrin bushings. That`s cool but not huge. There are some neat new features built into them though that make them a worthwhile addition,although they`re still not required parts by any stretch. The first is adj. ride height with normal springs,via laser cut spring shims. They`re also built to accept modern progressive rate jounce bumpers, a big step up from old school rubber bump stops and a quantum leap ahead of the little decorative poly bumpstops on many tubular arms. It`s one of those little the devil`s in the details things. The geometry is also altered to accomodate modern alignment settings. We all run a LOT more + caster than the cars came with and that tilts the spindles back toward the firewall and puts the wheel off center in the wheel wells compromising tire clearance. The altered geometry recenters the wheels in the wheelwells for max tire clearance and a clean factory appearance. All of the arms accept coil overs or conventional springs and most models offer additional sway bar end link mounting holes to tweak the sway bar`s motion ratio and rate too. Again no single feature is huge and Earth shaking but added together they make these arms a really smart choice. For folks planning on tubular lower A arms anyway they`re really a no brainer. Mark SC&C
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/03/1stgenSPC1B-1.jpg
How about an adjustable steering stop?
HectorM52
04-11-2008, 02:02 PM
How about an adjustable steering stop?
...that will mount to LCA's people have already bought...
64Chevelle
04-12-2008, 05:51 AM
I placed my order yesterday for a complete suspention (including those new lca's) for my 65 elcky so I let you know when I get them in. I have to say Mark really knows his stuff and is more than willing to discuss all the pro's and con's, even when someone elses product may be a better choice.
Marcus is amazing, yes, he's got a LOT of knowledge and is always ready to share. I'm ready to order very soon myself, I'm really looking forward to the upgrade.
I must have done a 100 hrs of research before I made my choice. Now I just gotta decide on wheels....maybe another 100 hrs...lol
lol, sounds like we've got the same problem...:hammer:
B.W.T.ROAD
04-20-2008, 08:05 PM
Made my order on Fri. Marcus was great to talk to and extremely informative. If you have trouble getting through, be patient, it's worth the wait.
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