Any non all drag cars running SOLID BODY BUSHINGS?

[79cutlass]

I am trying to decide if I want to order solid or poly body bushings. Yes I searched but there isn't too much info on solid body bushings on cars that aren't mainly drag racers. I would just like to hear some feedback on these. My car is mainly daily driver/touring and becoming more and more pro-touring. Thanks

[MikeDVC]

I just switched my Camaro (not a drag car) from poly to solid, IMO a noticably rougher ride, I would not want them for a daily driver

[formula]

I run them daily on my car, and yes, it is a teeny little bit more bumpy, but it also feels much much more solid. I wouldn't go back to anything else.

[Vegas69]

Most everybody with big horsepower numbers are running them or will be. As far as I know DSE recommends it once you put in their sub frame connectors.

[79cutlass]

Think that would be about the same for a G-Body?

[Desert68]

'68 and '69 Corvettes came from the factory with aluminum body mount bushings. I have a '68 w/ 550# front springs, a 360# fiber rear spring and it was my daily driver for about four years. No complaints other than getting my aging butt in and out of it because it's lowered a bit. Actually, the rear spring seems too soft to me.

Not having them in something like an F-body w/ subframe connectors makes no sense to me at all.

Roger

[redfire69]

I'm interested in any opinions on ride quality. I already picked up solid mounts from Global West as they recommend w/thier s/f connectors (69 camaro).

[skeeters65]

My car is being built with them right now..

[Vegas69]

Think that would be about the same for a G-Body?

I would think a G body would be different. DSE connectors are welded into the body so it makes perfect sense that the body needs to be solidly mounted to the sub frame. In your case the frame is insulated from the body. I would stick with soft mounts unless someone here that is a g body expert disagrees.

[Part Time]

I would think a G body would be different. DSE connectors are welded into the body so it makes perfect sense that the body needs to be solidly mounted to the sub frame. In your case the frame is insulated from the body. I would stick with soft mounts unless someone here that is a g body expert disagrees.

So. I have to ask the question. Just what would happen if you ran the poly mounts instead of the solid ones with the DSE connectors on a car that will see VERY little track time, 1320 or otherwise?

[redhead]

well to take it to the next level which is also streetable,
leave the bushings out all together.
that is how prodigy build by convertible.
and this was with the gw subframe connectors.
da.

[79cutlass]

Most of the info I have been reading is saying that the poly ride harsher than the solids... So that is why i'm probably going to get solids.

[Cruiser]

I ran them on my 69 Chevelle. It had full hotchkiss suspension front and rear, 15x8 rallys with 245/50/15 in front and 275/50/15 in the rear.

I had them made forit and had them done with 1/8 inch less material to lower the body on the Chevelle some.

The bushiings were the last thing I put on and they firmed it up, it had more road noise and harsher ride but nothing I could not live with. I think it helped improve the handling and feel of the car. The polys I had sqeeked also!! That really sucked!!

Joe

[TA219]

So. I have to ask the question. Just what would happen if you ran the poly mounts instead of the solid ones with the DSE connectors on a car that will see VERY little track time, 1320 or otherwise?

I beleive i read that there is a chance that the welds on your DSE sub frame connectors would fail over time because your subframe would flex with non-solid bushings.

also, since DSE subframes are welded to your floor, the cab would not be isolated from the frame anyways. in that case you have already lost the benifit of a non-solid mount... if that makes sense (i am running in E today!!)

[surlyjoe]

I have the gw subframe connectors and solid mounts on my 72 bird. The ride is solid but not harsh. If anything I think it rides nicer now than before. I have plastic leafs in the back can't remember what the front rate is and adjustable koni's.

[TonyHuntimer]

I have solid body bushings in my 68 Camaro. It's my daily driver. The ride didn't change much when I installed the solid body bushings. The single best improvement made to my car was the addition of integral weld-in subframe connectors (like Detroit Speed subframe connectors).

...and yes, if you install BOLT-IN subframe connectors without installing polyurethane or solid bushings you are wasting your time. If you install WELD-IN subframe connectors without installing solid body bushings you are wasting your time and money...and the welded joint between the rear of the front subframe and the connector will fatigue and crack.

I would not suggest removing your body bushings entirely without installing subframe connectors...AS well as really knowing what you are doing. You would need to address steering column angle and other interferences that could be dangerous if gone un-checked.

Tony Huntimer
RaceHome.com

[Young Gun]

as I am getting my list together bushings are definately among the list...so can somebody ponit out the pros and cons of each?

[86Cutlass383SR]

79cutlass ....... I am by no means a chassis expert, so, I can only relate what I was told. I talked to Doug Norrdin at Global West about doing solid body mounts on my 86 Cutlass. This was a few years ago and I've slept since then but he basically said it was not a good idea to run the solid mounts on a g-body. He knows more than I do so I left it at that. What he told me made since at the time so I didn't chase that dream any further.

I went with the Energy Suspension poly mounts...waiting to install them acutally.

Doug

[Part Time]

I beleive i read that there is a chance that the welds on your DSE sub frame connectors would fail over time because your subframe would flex with non-solid bushings.

also, since DSE subframes are welded to your floor, the cab would not be isolated from the frame anyways. in that case you have already lost the benifit of a non-solid mount... if that makes sense (i am running in E today!!)

1 set of solid mounts coming up!

Thanks.

[Vegas69]

I pretty much take what DSE tells me as pure truth. I think you are making a good decision.


So. I have to ask the question. Just what would happen if you ran the poly mounts instead of the solid ones with the DSE connectors on a car that will see VERY little track time, 1320 or otherwise?

[GM_muscle]

i have solid body bushing on my 79 firebird and would use them on my 69 bird when i do that car.

[silver69camaro]

I'm not sure why you'd run anything BUT solid.

[6'9"Witha69]

If you have any power over 400 hp then SFCs and solid bushings are absoutely necessary in ANY unibody car.

[chicane67]

I have had the GW solid body bushings on my 67 for 20 years... so its just kinda blended into the car now. But what I do remember is that they did transmit a little more road noise into the body... but, they did stiffen the chassis up a bit.

I also believe that any and all uni-body chassis' will greatly benifit from their use. In reference to a performance build... they are absolutely necessary. The PRO's outweight the CON's without question. Not to mention that it is in your best interest to use them with subframe connectors... or it may just end up to be a wasted effort and cash.

What I do know is... is that I would never run my own chassis without them or build a clients car without them either.

[shizzy]

It seems everyone is in agreement that solid mounts are good on a unibody car, but whats the take on full framed cars?