volt68 project

[hotrdblder]

heres some progress on vinnys 68 camaro, we are mini tubbing, adding a 8 point 1.74x.134 dom cage, mid mount fuel cell and nitrous to the solid roller 496 bbc
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[hotrdblder]

some updates i should have posted a few weeks ago, cage is in, here are a few progress pics, its painted now but need to untape and get better pics, we also got his newly widened rear rims back from forgeline, also got the toyo r888 in.
waiting on nitrous, and fuel cell to finish up mid mount cell, this thing should go decent once we had some happy gas.
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[hotrdblder]

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[69Nova]

Lookin good Jake.

[6'9"Witha69]

Look, innocent pretty new tires waiting to be shredded by that maniacal Vinny!

Lookin good!

[Young Gun]

does Vinny like blue by any chance?? hahah looks awsome!

[Vinz68]

Nice progress Jake... hurry up I can't wait to drive it again. lol :naughty:

[Vinz68]

does Vinny like blue by any change?? hahah looks awsome!
I do like blue, but I can't wait to get a black interior.

[Damn True]

Mid mount fuel cell?

Oh do tell!!!!

Geez, you really ought to have tried to get the cage tucked up tight to the interior.........zoiks! Nice work.

[hotrdblder]

thanks guys, vinny is a great customer and friend,details on cell to come. will post more pics of finished mini tub, finished roll cage, nitrous install etc over next few days and week.
these r888 will just be what vinny needs to really make this thing move, and who says bbc can't handle!!! hell vinny was top 5 at rth3 with air ride and a bbc

[Young Gun]

the black interior will look awsome...cant wait to see it when its done!

[Vegas69]

I do like blue, but I can't wait to get a black interior.

Agree....that would really set that car off!

[Mr.VENGEANCE]

man those toyo r888s are so bad ass..

i WISH they made them in 335 20s.. i would be runnin them in a second!

[Vinz68]

I am hoping the car will perform well on a road coarse and the drag strip. ( with slicks and skinnies)

[trapin]

Agree....that would really set that car off!
Hell man, the driver of this car ALREADY sets it off. Vinny is all the pop this car needs. LOL!!!

Looks great Jake. You're coming along nicely. Those Toyo's are amazing, but with Vinny on throttle duty....they're doomed.

[Vinz68]

Got some pics of the cage painted.

[Damn True]

No diagonal bar Vin?

Looks like they got all tucked in nice and tight. Did they have to pull the headliner?

[Young Gun]

looks great! when do you expect it to be finished?

[hotrdblder]

No diagonal bar Vin?

Looks like they got all tucked in nice and tight. Did they have to pull the headliner?
no diag bar, vinny is having a killer interior put in the car at a later date and he drives the hell out of it so we left it out, the stereo or interior guy would hate me. Once done with interior etc we will add a few things especially whenhe starts racing more.
No we did not pull headliner, just have some expsensive welding blankets that are soft, you can hold blanket in hand, put penny on other side, heat penny till it melts with bare hand underneath, its unreal.
The cage in the car now will keep him safe at current speed levels, we will modify as he does.
Jake

[hotrdblder]

waiting on parts, should be done in next few weeks, should be very safe for vinny, and his style fo driving,lol, i hope he doesn't need the cage. Hes drag racing april 14th so lets see what happens, it will be alot quicker then you think....;)
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[Vinz68]

I think the Fuel Safe looks great! I didn't think I would like the red,but I do.

[eville]

Looks good. Any details of how you installed the fuel safe cell?

[Damn True]

So did the mid mount plan hit the bin?

[hotrdblder]

So did the mid mount plan hit the bin?
LOL, do you think the fuel safe cell could mount in the car like it is in the pic and no be sticking thru the trunk?
there are 1x1x.125 straps holding the tank up, with 2 upper straps holding tank down to the sub structure, that i built out of 1x2x.125. i will get picks for inquiring minds.
true, worked on your car at all?

[Damn True]

Just curious.

You mentioned the "midmount fuel cell" and I was curious as I thought you might be doing something other than the relatively standard installation that we see here.

I had all kinds of visions of what "midmount" might mean..."Hmmm is he going to saddle mount a vette cell over the trans hump in the back seat area?" "Is he going to mount a Porsche cell up against the bulkhead?"

So by "midmount" you clearly meant in the vertical plane. I thought you might have meant the longitudinal plane and were considering moving the cell toward the center of the car to reduce the polar moment of the fuel load.

...and yeah, as a matter of fact I have been working on my car. Not much happening yet as we just moved into the new home that we just built and have been getting the old place ready to sell. My garage workshop is not yet ready and there is still a bunch of non-garage stuff being stored out there. Thanks for asking.

[hotrdblder]

true, no offense taken or it is not what i meant, i will provide better details on mid mount cell, sorry, as with email and internet you coul dnot tell how i asked the question, sorry i confused you, i was actually wondering if you had began working on your car after your new house build, not asking you hoping you said no so i could come back with a smart ass remark. glad the car is in your mind at least, it is very stressful building a house, but i am sure it will give you a great idea on how to organize your car build and stay on sched.
you need to do a thread to bring build and ideas up to date

[hotrdblder]

p.s i am better with a welder then a keyboard,

[Damn True]

No worries jake. Just curious.

BTW, how did you get your welds around the full circumfrence of the tubes with that super-tight fit?

Did you cut holes in the floor and drop the hoop through the holes or something else?

I hope I can talk the guy that is going to do my cage into doing it w/o pulling the headliner. I fear that nearly 40yrs has rendered it rather brittle and I just know I'll jack it up either getting it out or putting it in.

[hotrdblder]

good body placement and getting creative, no on this cage we did not drop it thru floor, the hardest ones were the forward down bars, the others i had room to work, and always kept the blanket between the torch and work
the problem on camaros and making cage fit tight is the main hoop is on the rocker so to drop it thru is a real pia, the rear down bars i kept in like 2 inches from side of car allowing me pretty decent access.

[Damn True]

Cool. I wish some of you guys had the time to take more photos while you are doing your work. If for no other reason than to demonstrate how things are supposed to be done.

Nothing but respect for people who are genuinely good at their craft.

As for the build thread. I'll get to it when I have something more profound to show off. Generally, I don't like to toot my own horn (SN95?/Pearl Cyclone).

...and yes. The house was huge and I am tremendously relieved that the process has come to completion. It was a two year project when you combine the time spent finding the architecht, coming up with a design finding the contractor, getting permits etc. The actual construction only took 7mos. Seeing something that big and that important to my wife come to fruition has been extremely satisfying. She now understands the car which is cool. Now we just need to get the other house fixed up a bit and sold and its game-on for the Camaro.

[hotrdblder]

sounds great, i like the direction your going with your car, its my kinda car, hardcore in your face business, kinda like my posts, lol
take care man, i will get mor epics up here

[hotrdblder]

update, finally the last of the parts are here, got air rides new air pod, which is just a killer set up, so clean and easy. nitrous is here also, will have pics very soon, as well as finished interior pics.

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[NvrDun71]

Red x's

[Crafty One]

Looks good..... got any larger pics... the are real fuzzy when you click on them...

[6'9"Witha69]

I don't see anything but Red Xs as stated above.

[hotrdblder]

fixed sorry

[trapin]

Lookin' good Jake. I can't wait to see the finished car in September.

[hotrdblder]

Lookin' good Jake. I can't wait to see the finished car in September.
yeah vinnys gonna have some fun, it was already cool now its even better heres a run down oof what he did this time around.
1.dse mini tubs
2.widened rear forgeline wheels to 12 inches
3.added toyo r888's, 245 front, 335 rear
4.8 point cage,hidden nicely
5.mid mount fuel safe fuel cell
6.fabricated valve covers
7.ring bros hood hinges
8.all black interior
9.nx, 200 shot, 2 bottles,warmer, purge kit etc

[trapin]

I think Toyo's have to be my favorite tire. I love the tread design on them. A 200 shot of NOS? Holy crap. I thought Vinny was dangerous just on the motor. LOL!!!

Nice additions to an already great car. I'd love to see this one get a feature soon. Rupp you listening?

[whytry]

I really like the way you have the cage mounted. Nice job on that! That's what I am going to try to do on mine, hopefully soon....

Is the black in there Rhinoliner or something similar? It looks like it has a texture on it and is not just paint...

BTW car looks awesome!!!

[hotrdblder]

its upol raptor liner, truck bed liner, it has a nice texture and a semi gloss finish that looks great and lasts long time.
thanks
jake

[Damn True]

Spray on, or will it roll or brush on as well?

Do you think it would be appropriate for use beneath the car?

[tom_a]

Spray on, or will it roll or brush on as well?

Do you think it would be appropriate for use beneath the car?

Damn True- It comes in bottles along with a throw away spray gun. Not sure if you can roll it on though. I did the underside of my car and I know there are others with the same brand. I am happy how it turn it out.
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[Damn True]

That looks pretty darn good. Is there much overspray? I'm just concerned about spraying stuff in the garage. That's why I asked about rolling or brushing.

So no problem with it being in close proximity to exhaust componentry?

[tom_a]

That looks pretty darn good. Is there much overspray? I'm just concerned about spraying stuff in the garage. That's why I asked about rolling or brushing.

So no problem with it being in close proximity to exhaust componentry?

The over spray was not that bad, however I agree I would not of wanted to spray in my garage for the same reasons. I would call them and ask about rolling. I know some of the cheaper stuff like Herculiner can be rolled on so it seems like you could with this. I think the problem is getting an even coat. Many of the Jeep guy's use the roll on stuff and like it. I think most important is the prep. As for the exhaust I don't know as car is still in several pieces.

Thanks
Tom

[hotrdblder]

true, it can be rolled or brushed, the texture will be different, if you buy a box of platic car cover and put it on floor and sides of car, there is little over spray, more or less where the gun is aiming and what blows by the part your spraying, there is no clouds of fumes etc.
its very durable and completely usable for underneath a car, jason used it on fuel and 3-4 other vehicles and said it held up awesome, and he drove the crap out of fuel as well as the new owner
jake
ps. the spray gun is easily cleaned with lacquer and can be re used many times, its just a shultz gun nothing fancy, i have had mine for 3 yrs,lol

[hotrdblder]

another update we are on the home stretch, got the nitrous from NX, and it is awesome stuff, will provide detail pics later but brian havins there really set us up with the right stuff the first time.Got the rear passenger floor pans raised and new panels made, got rear firewall sealed and coated, and interior is all in and doing final nitrous install, vinny will be drag racing next monday, he also got slicks and skinnys for it, should run a very low 10 on a 100 shot.
it ran a 7.63 100 8th with 265 18 inch rear tires peddling it the whole way. should be good for high 10;s on motor.
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[hotrdblder]

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[Damn True]

Compressed air.
Compressed gas.
Gasoline.

F'n-A!!!!!

That thing is lookin bitchin!

Gonna put any carpet over that sheetmetal in the back?

[hotrdblder]

Compressed air.
Compressed gas.
Gasoline.

F'n-A!!!!!

That thing is lookin bitchin!

Gonna put any carpet over that sheetmetal in the back?
nope no carpet, its all about function and vinny loves it.
he was gonna do a complete interior but he is unsure now, i personall ylove the look of pure funtion, same texture on rear firewall as trunk, it was wet when pics were taken,

[Damn True]

I'm kinda diggin it too. Might be weird though with the transition to carpet up front. If there is carpet up front.....is there?

I dunno if there is a way to elegantly transition between the two.

[MrQuick]

I like it...makes for easy clean up too....open the doors and hose er off! You getting ideas again True?

[Damn True]

Oh....I got ideas.....

I like the no carpet idea quite a lot. But I would like some measure (albeit small) of sound damping and heat attenuation.

[MrQuick]

Oh....I got ideas.....

I like the no carpet idea quite a lot. But I would like some measure (albeit small) of sound damping and heat attenuation. Use that spray on stuff Andrew used on the gTo.

[hotrdblder]

should be ok, will post pics, carpet tucks under new under seat area panels, you'll see then make your decision.

[Bow Tie 67]

That looks killer.

[Smock67]

Wow that is just awesome, top notch work for sure.

[Vinz68]

Got the slicks and skinnies the other day. Hope fully the car should hook at the drag strip.
17/4 front rim with a 26/4.5 tire and 16/11 rim and a 26 / 12 rear tire.

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[hotrdblder]

Dude, I should of had those shipped here so I coul dmake love to them, killer:firefire:

[GMracer]

Looking good, I love the wheels, and the bed line looks amazing underneath. Keep up the good work man!

[Vinz68]

Dude, I should of had those shipped here so I coul dmake love to them, killer:firefire:
I already violated them last night...:yum: lol

[Damn True]

Dude, I should of had those shipped here so I coul dmake love to them, killer:firefire:

CREEPY!

[hotrdblder]

CREEPY!
true, you know you want to.......:bsjerk:

[6'9"Witha69]

true, you know you want to.......:bsjerk:CREEPY-ER

[hotrdblder]

ok, maybe it was, but you didn't need to point it out.lol
thanks

[hotrdblder]

got car done and to vinny, he wen drag racing today, and had a blast, got his drag package wheels from ccw, which are killer wheels, he is running a 26x12 m/h slick in the rear on a 16x11 and a 17x4.5 on the front with a 26x4 radial skinny
he ran 11.05, 10.84 then 5 straight 10.60's with a 10.60 flat at 130mph with a 1.60 short, the 1-2 shift was hitting rev limiter all day, the 2-3,shift was perfect, he is shifting at 6200 motor rev limit is 6800, hes got 1-2 tenths left on motor once dialed in, plus he didn't turn on the happy gas today, we will see what 150 and 200 shot do for it, this is all on air ride air bar, rear susp. will have pics at the track later.
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[Damn True]

Is that a 22ga cell?

If so, model "a" "b" or "c"?

[hotrdblder]

true, its a 18 gal cell and fits perfect with big exhaust, mini tubs etc, you coul dgo bigger but exhaust etc will get tougher.
also the raptor liner looks sick with the black carpet, interior, pics later
i think the cell is part number sm118a

[hotrdblder]

pic of carpet to rear lower firewall transition, almost perfect shade difference for detail between carpet and semi gloss raptor
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[Damn True]

Jake,

That does look pretty darn nice. Good call!!!

[hotrdblder]

true, its model sm 117a

[Young Gun]

hot seks....Jake your work is top notch...looks absolutely killer!! Vinny has gotta be stoaked!

[Bad94]

What front drag tire did you get?

[hotrdblder]

got ccw's drag package, 16x11 rear with 26x12 m/h slick and a 17x4.5 front with a 26x4 radial front, ccw specializes in vette/viper rims, thus they make this package for those guys, which in turn will fit alot of pro touring cars

[Bad94]

got ccw's drag package, 16x11 rear with 26x12 m/h slick and a 17x4.5 front with a 26x4 radial front, ccw specializes in vette/viper rims, thus they make this package for those guys, which in turn will fit alot of pro touring cars


I understand that, what brand front tires, im looking for a set for my set up.

[hotrdblder]

m/h, should not be to hard to find, call ccw

[69Nova]

Sick!!!

Cant wait for some good pictures. I wanna see some of the interior. "You da man" Jake!

[Damn True]

Jake,

Did you guys take any photos of how you integrated the support structure you are using for the cell to the rear frame-rails and trunk floor?

[hotrdblder]

true, what i do is cut entire trunk out frame rail to frame rail, i leave about 3/16th out off the frame rail flange so i can have an overlap joint on the new sheet metal i weld in.
i then put two cross car crossmembers in usually 1x2x.125, i then put two front to back crossmembers in 1/4 wider then cell to allow room for weatherstrip and or caulking.
the front to back crossmember i lay down so the 2 inch side is horizontal, as some cells i weld mount brackets to the sides to keep them from coming up, where as on vinnys i welded 2 upper straps on to hold it down and mount nx bottle.
the rear crossmember i usually make round plates to go over leaf spring bushing hole then mount the crossmember to those as thats about the perfect distance back without needing to trim tail panel for 1x1x.125 strap clearance.
i then set the height of the cell and measure for the 1x straps, build those, set cell in and make upper straps or mark front to back crossmembers for drilling mounting bolt holes. in vinnys cell case i welded 3/8 tube nuts in the 1x2 front a and back crossmembers so it could be a one wrench deal removing.
i then close in existing trunk to the sides of the crossmembers, tacking it in below the car, so it provides a nice seam where the sheet metal goes down next to the 1x2, if you weld the sheet metal to the top its alot of work to make look nice.
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[andrewb70]

Nice work! 10.60s at 130 is smokin' fast.

Andrew

[hotrdblder]

thanks andrew, vinny is excited, heres a few pics, the car looks hot in either set up
10.60 @ 131 n/a next time out we throw 150 and 200 hp at it along with turning it to 7200 rpm not 6800.
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[Young Gun]

oh damn!!!! that looks fun!

[trapin]

Vinny, Jake...hell of a job. That car is plain awesome. Talk about a car built for pure performance and purpose. I don't know of many cars (or any car for that matter) that can play in a G-Machine's backyard and a drag cars backyard at the same time.

And all on an Air Ride suspension. Hell man, Brett doesn't need to build demo cars to hawk his stuff, Vinny's car should be on his payroll 24-7. LOL!!!

Nice work Jake and congrats to Vinny. Lets see some pics of this little honey with her pro-touring shoes on.

[hotrdblder]

tony thanks, yeah this car is all about go, its not perfect, but it runs good enough to counter that, it was built to be driven, if it was perfect it woul dnot get driven, you should see the lower rear 1/4 talk about chips, but hey thats what driving the car does and vinny is the defenition of driving a car hard.
pics with r888 coming

[Mr.VENGEANCE]

i know ill be the minority here but..

i think i like those CCWs more that his regular wheels..

slam on them and BOOOM you got a baby..

[Bow Tie 67]

HELL Yah!!

[Vinz68]

Thanks guys. The car ran great! I kept running better times as the day went on. I'll have the spray on for Year one. I'm hoping to get it into the mid to high 9's. :naughty: