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01somta
02-03-2008, 12:44 PM
I am getting ready here in the next month or so to start bending my SS brake lines. I have never done this before so I have a few questions, so please be nice with you replys. I hear people talking about a 37* flare and a double 45* flare, what exactly is the difference. From what I have read I seen that the 37* is prefered. So do I just need the Rigid model #377 37* flaring tool and a tubing bender to do the entire job? What would be a good brand for the bender? Also where is the best place to buy (or should I make my own) clips that are welded to the rearend to hold the brake lines in place. I don't mind welding these on, but I would like to before I get the rearend powdercoated. I posted a pic to show what clips I am talking about. Thanks for everybodies help in advance.

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01somta
02-03-2008, 12:48 PM
BTW this is a Wilwood 12.2 front and rear disc kit

hotrodf1
02-08-2008, 06:17 AM
I am getting ready here in the next month or so to start bending my SS brake lines. I have never done this before so I have a few questions, so please be nice with you replys. I hear people talking about a 37* flare and a double 45* flare, what exactly is the difference. From what I have read I seen that the 37* is prefered. So do I just need the Rigid model #377 37* flaring tool and a tubing bender to do the entire job? What would be a good brand for the bender? Also where is the best place to buy (or should I make my own) clips that are welded to the rearend to hold the brake lines in place. I don't mind welding these on, but I would like to before I get the rearend powdercoated. I posted a pic to show what clips I am talking about. Thanks for everybodies help in advance.

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--I'm pretty sure the info I've presented is correct--
The 45 deg double flare is the "traditional" brake line flare type. The 37 degree is the "Army / Navy" or AN style flare, developed for the military originally. Many of the braided stainless flexible lines you can buy for our cars will have the AN ends on them, but all the steel brake lines you can buy at an auto parts store will be the 45 degree flare.

Double flare refers to how the flare is made. On a 45 degree double flare ("standard" for brake lines), you make the flare in two steps, and the actual flared part ended up being two layers thick (hence the double flare name). I don't have any pics to explain though. The instruction that come with such flaring tools will get you the right flare though.

The important thing is to make sure you know which style of flare fitting you are using and use the proper transitions to get from one to the other if need be.

You shouldn't really need the 37 flare tool for this job, I've never needed one for doing brake lines. Anything with 37 degree will likely already have the flares on it, then you just need the adapters.

I know on my calipers, the port is 1/8" NPT, so they sent 1/8" NPT to AN (-3 maybe, can't remember) fittings for them, and I think there were some AN to SAE (45 degree) adapters to get to the hard lines, with the braided stainless in between.

Bending tools - if you want the ultimate get the benders from Eastwood Auto. I have used them before and they are awesome, but more $ than most. I have had limited success with lots of other benders, but you can find them at Oreilly, Advance, NAPA, etc.

You may have to get creative on the clips. Don't have a solution for that other than perhaps welding some tabs onto the housing that you could use for securing the lines later. You could use some small pieces of sheet metal to fold over the lines as well.

If you really are using stainless lines, you will have a job ahead of you getting those things flared. Regular steel lines are difficult enough for most! Stainless is going to be more difficult. Normal steel lines are usually coated with something, so rust is not normally a problem for me.

Hope this helps a little!