c10: Baer vs???

[o-connor]

What is out there for C10's? Mine is a 64 that I am going to convert to disc. So far there is a stock upgrade, Baer's upgrade... Is there anything else??

[ebmiller88]

What is out there for C10's? Mine is a 64 that I am going to convert to disc. So far there is a stock upgrade, Baer's upgrade... Is there anything else??

I'd love to take a shot at making a kit for a truck...it's a 6 lug, right? What size rotors would you like to run?

Ed

[o-connor]

Well, I'd like to convert it to a 5 lug, to run 18x8 and 18x10 Budnik murdoc wheels. And biggest rotors I could fit.
You should see my mini (1965) 7.5 inch vented/slotted rotors with 4 Pot billet calipers... All under 10x6.5's... And I still induce fade...

[Apogee]

We've been working on a kit for the 72-87 C10 applications...the hubs and brackets have been designed and prototyped and is due to be installed for testing in the next couple of weeks (thank you Scot). The kit is based on C5/C6 components similar to our late-model B-body kits with the 5x5x3.06 wheel pattern, so there will be the 325mm C5/C6, 340mm C6 Z51, 355mm Hybrid, and 355mm C6 z06 options up front to choose from. We designed a new billet hub from scratch that will increase the track width by less than 1/32" per side on the disc applications. We're getting excited to release this kit as a lot of thought has gone into it already. Let us know if you have any questions.

Tobin
KORE3

[ScotI]

We've been working on a kit for the 72-87 C10 applications...the hubs and brackets have been designed and prototyped and is due to be installed for testing in the next couple of weeks (thank you Scot). The kit is based on C5/C6 components similar to our late-model B-body kits with the 5x5x3.06 wheel pattern, so there will be the 325mm C5/C6, 340mm C6 Z51, 355mm Hybrid, and 355mm C6 z06 options up front to choose from. We designed a new billet hub from scratch that will increase the track width by less than 1/32" per side on the disc applications. We're getting excited to release this kit as a lot of thought has gone into it already. Let us know if you have any questions.

Tobin
KORE3
I was going to suggest one other option. Then I scrolled down & read all the replys...... You beat me to it.

[Apogee]

I was going to suggest one other option. Then I scrolled down & read all the replys...... You beat me to it.

Hey...glad you could make it Scot. :6gears: It's about time to get this thing on the road. Your rotors should be modified soon and we'll ship everything out shortly thereafter. Have you decided which truck of yours this kit is going to be installed on first? I've still got to figure out hoses for you, but I need to know the application first.

Tobin
KORE3

[ScotI]

Hey...glad you could make it Scot. :6gears: It's about time to get this thing on the road. Your rotors should be modified soon and we'll ship everything out shortly thereafter. Have you decided which truck of yours this kit is going to be installed on first? I've still got to figure out hoses for you, but I need to know the application first.

Tobin
KORE3
The kit will be going on my 68.

As for hoses.... the set-up is MII R&P using C-10 arms/spindles. The hoses I used w/the modified factory suspension were actually for 73 & later trucks so there should be no problems spec-ing one or two P/N's for most of the 64-87 year models.

I haven't gotten the wheels yet either. Their 'shipment' came in w/the front wheels only. The rears are supposed to be in 2-10-08 or I start searching again.

[o-connor]

Just looking for wheels that will fit over the Z06 option. I found a set of Z06 wheels but they are 5x4.75... and +53mm and +59mm offset on a 17x9.5 and 18x10.5 wheels...wrong bolt pattern...
What wheels are out there that fit the bolt pattern/clear the calipers (Z06) and have the 4.5 inch backspacing needed to clear a 64 fleetside with tubular arms and probably no tub in the rear?

[ScotI]

Just looking for wheels that will fit over the Z06 option. I found a set of Z06 wheels but they are 5x4.75... and +53mm and +59mm offset on a 17x9.5 and 18x10.5 wheels...wrong bolt pattern...
What wheels are out there that fit the bolt pattern/clear the calipers (Z06) and have the 4.5 inch backspacing needed to clear a 64 fleetside with tubular arms and probably no tub in the rear?
Coys C5?

[vp23271]

o-connor,

I have a 64 C10 Short Fleetside also. I just picked it up 3 weeks ago and everything was original. No power steering and all drum brakes. I live in Huntington Beach, Ca, so I went to a local company called Classic Performance and picked up a lot of goodies. I am also converting from the six lug to the 5on5" bolt pattern. They have a very knowledgeable staff and a good selection on "package upgrades". I am adding disc brakes to all 4 corners, new upper and lower tubular control arms, new 2.5" drop spindles, new rear axles, all new springs and shocks, new PS kit and new under bed fuel tank. I just picked up all the parts last Sat and will post again after everything is installed. If you have questions, you can always give Jeff at Classic Performance a call (1 714 522 2000 ext.114). He knows these truck really well and is super friendly.

I am also searching for a rim in the 5on5" bolt pattern and will post what I find.

Rick

[vp23271]

Don't know what type of wheel your looking for or if these will clear the Z06 brakes, but the following is what I am looking at in a 5on5" (aka 5x127) bolt pattern. I am leaning more toward the "old school" look with better handeling/power. Hope the info helps.

Vintage Wheel Works V45
http://www.vintagewheelworks.com/products/wheels/v45

Boyd Coddington Junkyard Dog
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/18-x9-4-Boyd-Coddington-Junkyard-Dog-Wheels-5x127-18_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em118Q2el1247Q QcategoryZ43958QQihZ017QQitemZ270210193015QQrdZ1QQ sspagenameZWD1V

American Racing Salt Flat Special w/ painted centers
http://www.americanracing.com/browse_vintage.asp
I called Newstalgia Wheels and they did warn me that anything custom from American Racing might take 2.5-3 months.

[ScotI]

The 'kit' I used w/a semi close-up of the rotor dimension . . .....

[ScotI]

The stock spindle 'carved-up' a little bit & the C5/6 PBR caliper adapter bracket w/the supplied hardware . . . ......

[ScotI]

The PBR twin 40mm piston caliper in good ol' basic black . . .....

[ScotI]

Billet alum hub w/the correct C10 bearings & ARP screw-in studs . . .....

[ScotI]

Spindle + adapter bracket.
Spindle + bracket + hub.
Spindle, bracket, hub + 13.4" rotor.
Spindle, bracket, hub, rotor + C5/6 caliper.

[ScotI]

C5/6 13.4" brakes in a 20x8.5" Coys C-5 wheel . . .....

Close-up of the Coys 20" wheel & how much stem to caliper clearance there is. These are a little bigger than the 12" HD C10 brake option :) .

[vp23271]

ScotI, nice write up with lots of pic's!

[ScotI]

Should have some matching rears in the near future as well.
:firefire:

[chevelletiger]

Billet alum hub w/the correct C10 bearings & ARP screw-in studs . . .....

I know this is an old thread,but cant you use the camaro,chevelle etc. Drum hubs that aftermarket co. Make or oe ones and bore bearing id for truck ones?does anybody know what bearings these big use?are they bigger or smaller?

[Apogee]

It depends on the spindles that you use as there are heavy-duty and light-duty versions of the 6x-87 truck spindles depending on the year (OE or aftermarket). The HD spindles came with 1.25" thick rotors, SET5 inner and SET3 outer wheel bearings and have a larger bearing spread than the LD versions. LD spindles came with 1" thick rotors, SET6 inner and SET3 outer wheels bearings, comparable to the 1991-1996 B-body and various other "tall-spindle" applications.

You don't specify years, however I assume that you are asking about compatibility with the 1964-1972 A-body, 1967-1969 F-body and 1968-1974 X-body drum hubs. The short answer is that they're not compatible with the HD truck spindle (also common with the 71-76 B-body) due to the bearing size and spread differences. Additionally, while these drum hubs should work with SET6/34 wheel bearings on the light-duty spindle pins, there isn't a compatible inner oil seal for the hub counterbore and spindle pin shaft diameter that I know of to use.

HTH,
Tobin
KORE3