DSE 3" drop leaf spring

[Tanner]

I am looking for a picture of a 67 or 68 camaro with DSE 3" lowered rear leaf springs......Does anyone know if I run these springs with a 17" wheel will the top of the rim be even with the wheel well opening?

[baz67]

Tanner, no it will not. The reason that it looks that way on a 69 is because the top of the wheel opening on the 69 is leveled off. The 67-8 is more rounded. You can get it there with lowering blocks, but then you will not have enough bump travel.

Brian

[68protouring454]

brian is right on, however as long as the tire is above the 1/4 lip, the car will look real nice, thats about as low as you want to go on a 67-68, 18 rim will help a bit as it will get rim lip closer to 1/4 lip
jake

[Tanner]

Thanks for the info ........

[whytry]

Tanner I am running 18s on my 68, let me know if you want to see some pics of it.

[67RS]

Here's my 67' with 3" DSE drop springs, 17" X 10" wheels and 275/40R17 BFG's. The front looks good with 17's but I wish I would have put 18's on the back. :hand:

[ILLEGAL69]

I am buuilding a 69 Firebird.

The front has hotchkis 1907F springs. I dont know what leafs to put on the rear to get the perfect stance.

The front wheels will be 17" and I was planning on 17" on the rear as well.

Does any one have pics of a 69 F-body with the above springs?

Thanks

[Tanner]

The camaro looks cool...the look I am going for is more like this..sorry for the crude cut and paste

[Stu Seitz]

If you want to go that low you might try looking in to bags

[68protouring454]

that is way to low and you will have NO suspension travel at all, would be unsafe to drive, it will have to be air bagged or channeled like muscle rodz is doing, you can get a 18 so the rim is just below the 1/4 lip and tire is above it, but thats it, not like a 69, there enough guys on here to check cars out just get some rocker heights from guys with a nice stance and match it, someone should chime in with some heights, the key oin the front is to not have the center of the lower ball joint lower than the lower control arm mount bolt, good luck
jake

[TitoJones]

Here is a 68 with DSE 3" dropped springs, and 17's on the rear.

The car has nothing in it, so I expect it will drop another 2" or so after final assembly.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif

Tyler

[68protouring454]

nice pic, kinda hard to see tire/1/4 lip clearance, will the tire be above the 1/4 lip, when settled?? or close, what are your thoughts on 17's vs 18's on 67-68's?? i am flopping between the 2 and have yet to see a 68 with a killer stance, other than steilows red camaro with zr-1 wheels on it, here is a pic.
jake

[BRIAN]

I would think Mark's Camaro might rub under hard cornering? I have 68 Bird that I just started and am in same boat. Problem is if you check your outer wheelhouse it bulges out towards tire. It is hard to lower car without running into clearance issue. That is whay you see cars higher up in the rear. With 2 inches of travel you need some sort of clearance. Problem is everybody wants slammed air bag look. Even if you remedied wheelhouse you would need 4 bar or other non stock leaf suspension to get that look. The 18's do give more of a hidden tire look. A lot of guys here claim they are fitting huge tires but I would have to see the car perform in real world situation before I believe it. Honestly with correct backspacing a 255 with the car lowered to just at sidewall is about what will fit and that is what I would consider tight.

[Steve Chryssos]

Here ya go. DSE 3" springs, no lowering blocks, 285/35x18 tire.
This is as low as it goes and even at this level you should expect to rethink exhaust and shocks.
The Red Witch had custom leafs that were de-arched, test-fitted, de-arched some more, test-fitted...You get the idea. Trust me. Unless you want to channel the body over the frame like MuscleRodz is doing, DSE 3" leafs are as low as you want to go. And they work great!

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif

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Here's some homework on the subject:

DSE 2" to 3" Leaf Spring Comparison (http://homepage.mac.com/streetfytr/PhotoAlbum19.html)

[BRIAN]

Steve that car has nice stance. Do you have any wheel lip rub at full travel? Rim size and backspace. Problem is I am so used to building lowered car that when I mocked up tire it just looks odd but in your pic the car looks right. Are those rear vents operational? They look killer.

[JamesJ]

Steve, I tried the link and not a working. at least for me.

[baz67]

Like I said earlier you would not have enough bump travel. It looks like Steevos car and the Red Witch have the same stance. That is about as low as you can go on a 67-8 and still have a functional suspension. The outer wheelhouse is an issue, but you also have problems with axle housing to frame rail clearance. To even have a chance on getting that look is to channel the chassis. However, you only have so much room to modify the outer wheelhouse before you need to flare the 1/4s. How much time and money do you want to throw at it? Sorry, but that look is not in the cards for a 67-8 Camaro.

Brian

[68protouring454]

baz is right on, i have a 68 myself and am looking for the steilows stance, looks to me a bit lower than steevo's although could be tire some also, i got mine mini tubbed and am gonna run 335's gonna have plenty of room to tuck up in the middle but the front and back of the wheel house is where the tire will not fit, along with not alot of room in the outer wheel house, i think steilow ran 315's on the red witch, man that car is awesome
jake