kandy koncentrates howto

[el-camino]

hi
i bought from house of kolors 2bottles cobalt blue for my Camino.
my question now, it is better when i mix the kandy koncentrate with the blue base-coat or with the clear coat ?
and please post some good tips and ideas for the best result:idea:
paint-gun is a devilbiss hvlp.

[nbecker]

I used the concentrate on a motor cycle i painted for a friend, I made the mistake of useing it with inner coat clear as graphix. I painted flames on it with the candy/clear and it was pretty thick so i had to put alot of top clear and wet sand it to flatten the flames.
If i were to use it again i would mix it with a candy to get a darker and faster covrage or mix it with the top clear to get the paint darker.Dont be afraid to call house of kolor very helpful and friendly tech

[hotrdblder]

i mix the concentrates with standox's colorless basecoat( clear) does not get thick, it spray like basecoat because it is. works awesome, use a 1.3 fluid tip on spray gun

[Happyfunballs]

Be carefull with the Cobalt. If I remember correctly, its great as a "top color" only. I remember trying to flame over the top and it sucked the color out of the flame. It even disapated the color after I intercoated it.

[lvrpool32]

Concetrates are designed to work in a "jamming" clear, but you can use it in a catalyzed clear. Always put a couple of coats of regular clear over your candy before you do any graphics/stripes etc...you never want to sand on a candy.

Nick

[el-camino]

hmm, i can see, its not a simply easy work.
my planing is:
1,sanding the existing clear coat on my camino
2,mix the candy with clear coat and paint the complete car
3,wait 2-3 weeks, sanding again and paint the car with clear coat
4, waiting again and now colorsanding and buffing
:hmm:

[lt1chevelle]

i dunno if its the same as regular kandy but all i know is that stuff is not that simple to spray any flaw will show up and i think you have to lay it down even or the kolors will look different. just a heads up

[lvrpool32]

hmm, i can see, its not a simply easy work.
my planing is:
1,sanding the existing clear coat on my camino
2,mix the candy with clear coat and paint the complete car
3,wait 2-3 weeks, sanding again and paint the car with clear coat
4, waiting again and now colorsanding and buffing
:hmm:

Ok, so what are you using as your base? Your existing color?

My suggestion would be to prep your existing paint, scuff with 600, fix any dings.

Buy 2 guns, a cheap gun will work for primer, nice big tip. A nice gun for your base coat and clear (look at the finsihline series by divilbiss).

Use a good primer sealer (will stop any of the original paint bleeding through).

Pick a nice basecoat, a silver, gold or platinum flake, maybe a pearl..whatever you like. Apply a couple of coats , you only have to wait an hour or so before you can -
a) put some stripes or graphics on
b) apply candy mixed into a jamming or bonding clear.

A word of warning, if you have never sprayed candy before, have someone else do it, it requires some experience with the spray pattern overlap and mixing and feathering of the paint. Candy is transluscent, it gets darker the more you apply, so if your strokes are uneven, your car will look like a zebra when its in bright sunlight or street lights.

Ok, if that hasnt frightened you off, apply the candy until you have reached the desired color and depth, use a trouble light to check for coverage (dont worry if the whole thing looks like doodoo, the final clear will bring it out)

Allow an hour or so again (the time is dependent on the type of paint you used, so read the labels!)

Now apply a couple of coats of catalyzed clear (wear a respirator). First coat is relatively dry, it will even look "bumpy" and "uneven", dont spray to heavily, too much paint and you will wet the candy and it will flow out...not very nice. Second coat can be medium wet. What I like to do on the final coat is slightly over reduce the clear so it flows a little better.

OK..let it sit for a week or so (unless you live somewhere nice and warm like Flordia, where a day would be fine)...then you can cut and buff.

I buy all my custom paint from a place called innate.com Call him (Nate is his name), he is a really great guy, very helpful and his paint is top quality and very reasonably priced.

Nick

[Happyfunballs]

Nate is a nice guy. Bought my flake-buster gun from him and a bunch of Old Skool Flake. I have yet to try any of his xotic paint products. He says they are just as good or better than the HOK stuff.

[lvrpool32]

The Xotics line is excellent, the production clear he sells is out of this world, easy to apply and great gloss level.
Theres a page on his website where you can cross reference HOK colors with what he sells.

Nick

[el-camino]

hmm, another idea.
when i mix the koncentrate with the blue basecoat.....

[Happyfunballs]

You'll probably get a better effect if you mix the concentrate with clear and put a few coats over the basecoat.

[el-camino]

ok, i will do that.
when the result looks ugly and zebra-like i paint the chevy green:screwy:

[el-camino]

lvrpool32
thanks nick, for your help.
i will do that.
my blue basecoat is a metal-flake base coat.
my paint gun is a finish line