Super Shops is back in business

[Kustom_dude]

Well it looks like Super Shops is back in business. I don’t know if it s a good thing or bad but its going to be tough to go up against the giants Jeg's and Summit.

http://www.supershopsracing.com/

[Boyd]

I was in high school when they went out of business in the late 80's early 90's - what happened exactly that put them out of business? Bad management, bad economy?

[69Bbird]

Mail order.

[Chad-1stGen]

EDIT the rumor I heard back in the day is the owner of super shops leveraged the company and went belly up in some other ventures that dragged super shops down with it.

[camcojb]

EDIT the rumor I heard back in the day is the owner of super shops leveraged the company and went belly up in some other ventures that dragged super shops down with it.

Harry wouldn't do that, would he.................. :ssst:

Jody

[EFI69Cam]

I thought I heard the guy liked the nose candy.

[cfrc51]

Bad service and smart Azz Counter guys killed the Atlanta stores.

[Bob Johnson]

when you fly around in private jets living like a king, and open stores like crazy leveraged to the hilt and your parts suppliers are giving you crazy terms and aren't paying attention to the massive debt that you are accumulating, it's kinda like Unique. I know the tire manufacturers were way under water as they had given him like 90 day terms and he was stretching his payments way beyond that and no one was tending to the massive debt that was accumulating. Plus there was a lot of theft going on there as management was green and there weren't proper checks and balances in place. It's the old pyramid deal where you get long terms from your suppliers, sell for quick cash and just keep growing and building debt. anyone that would sell them on terms deserves a good whipping..got some big balls using that same name too..world is full of D/A that just don't pay attention to history.

[Bob Johnson]

and thievery

[Bob Johnson]

Bad service and smart Azz Counter guys killed the Atlanta stores.
and thievery

[Damn True]

when you fly around in private jets living like a king, and open stores like crazy leveraged to the hilt and your parts suppliers are giving you crazy terms and aren't paying attention to the massive debt that you are accumulating, it's kinda like Unique. Starbucks is running into a similar problem. In their case though the problem is a bit different. Same store sales are dropping because they have too many locations stealing market share from each other. That combined with very high labor costs for that type of business is dropping their overall margin.


It's the old pyramid deal where you get long terms from your suppliers, sell for quick cash and just keep growing and building debt. anyone that would sell them on terms deserves a good whipping..got some big balls using that same name too..world is full of D/A that just don't pay attention to history.

Amazon operated that way for the first seven years of it's existance. If I'm not mistaken they didn't pull an actual profit until Q1 of this year.

[TonyHuntimer]

Bob Johnson has it right...as far as I know.

Their problems came from BFG and some "floated" money for an unheard of amount of tires that could not be sold fast enough.

The sticky finger employees and lack of their knowledge didn't stop people from spending TONS of cash on parts. Super Shops, Summit and Jegs are proof that people are looking for the lowest possible price and don't care about knowledgeable service. I know how little the salesman knew about cars. When I worked there at 19 years of age my boss and I were the most knowledgeable guys in the store out of 7 employees.

Tony Huntimer
http://www.goodies-speedshop.com

[Damn True]

Bob Johnson has it right...as far as I know.

Their problems came from BFG and some "floated" money for an unheard of amount of tires that could not be sold fast enough.

The sticky finger employees and lack of their knowledge didn't stop people from spending TONS of cash on parts. Super Shops, Summit and Jegs are proof that people are looking for the lowest possible price and don't care about knowledgeable service. I know how little the salesman knew about cars. When I worked there at 19 years of age my boss and I were the most knowledgeable guys in the store out of 7 employees.

Tony Huntimer
http://www.goodies-speedshop.com

I spent a lot of money at the Stevens Creek store back in the '80s.

[THX 138]

I use to love going into the one on Van Nuys. They must have been there forever. now I think its a Discount Tire store or a shoe store. I don't see them having much luck around here the way PAW is slowly imploding. Although on the flip side 4wheel Parts is expanding at the same time.

[chicane67]

Bob nailed it on the head. I know of the people/business' involved and what was done that really killed that company.

I was in the same place as Tony... when I ran a store in SoCal, being the youngest and most knowledgeable, not to mention being management... seemed common place. There were very few that actually knew what they were talking about... but if they could make a sale... the higher ups were happy.

On another point, ASAP.com was Super Shops mail order side. When they went out to suck up all the BFG tires they could, so that they could "own that market"... it actually turned out to own them. Their FNG management and lack of insight really burned them.

[chicane67]

And did someone mention something about... thievery ??

[camcojb]

Bob nailed it on the head. I know of the people/business' involved and what was done that really killed that company.

I was in the same place as Tony... when I ran a store in SoCal, being the youngest and most knowledgeable, not to mention being management... seemed common place. There were very few that actually knew what they were talking about... but if they could make a sale... the higher ups were happy.

On another point, ASAP.com was Super Shops mail order side. When they went out to suck up all the BFG tires they could, so that they could "own that market"... it actually turned out to own them. Their FNG management and lack of insight really burned them.

remember your employee #? Mine was #313. Managed Sacramento, then Albuquerque, then a floating manager in Socal until I quit around 1981/82.

When I started almost everyone from our store knew what they were doing. We all built/raced cars. Of course, we all got promoted pretty fast and then the crew I was left with was much less knowledgeable. My original guys were Jim Jackson, Greg Reinarts, Mark Lyons, and others.

Jody

[chicane67]

:hmm: Ahhhh... man. That would require scraping off some real gray matter. I dont remember off the top of my head... but one day, I'll bust in on some thread when I remember it and tell you. I started in the San Diego stores, Kerney Mesa, El Cajon and La Mesa. I dont even remember my employee number or the store numbers... I do remember that JP, Alan B. (and I believe Mark ??) hired me to be Rays assistant at the Kerney store.


Kinda funny that the new franchise contact number is in San Diego... and the La Mesa store is now corp HQ.

[Lowend]

The San Jose stores were complete jokes, no one knew a damn thing about anything; I could recognize that when I was 16.

I'll give them a year... tops

The problem with all of these corporate speed shops (4 wheel parts, Super Shops ect) is that you really do need a huge amount of knowledge to work there and be effective. The profit margin in speed parts sucks (30% tops) so there isn't a lot of money to pay people with.
Low pay means low employee commitment... no one wants to make a career of working the parts counter at $10/hour

[thedugan]

So is Eddie Hill coming back to race for them...

[thedugan]

Here in the NJ/CT/PA area we had a store called Performance Centers of America.

Anybody remember them? I worked in the Springfield NJ store while in college, and as a second job for years. Still one of my favorite jobs, miss working there.

[Bob Johnson]

So is Eddie Hill coming back to race for them...
rumor is Chaquita is going to sponsor his comeback..lol

[Bob Johnson]

I forget all the things the head guy was writing off thru the business, but it was absurd for a company with the revenue and so called profits Super Shops had. BFG, Crager among several others experienced serious cash flow problems not only from the loss generated from the bankruptsy, but the loss of their main customer Super Shops which seriously affected the future bottom line sales. I think he stung Edelbrock pretty good too..I'm sure Holley, MSD and tons of others..

[scogin918]

remember your employee #? Mine was #313. Managed Sacramento, then Albuquerque, then a floating manager in Socal until I quit around 1981/82.

When I started almost everyone from our store knew what they were doing. We all built/raced cars. Of course, we all got promoted pretty fast and then the crew I was left with was much less knowledgeable. My original guys were Jim Jackson, Greg Reinarts, Mark Lyons, and others.

Jody.

My # was A107. We were the only store around for a while so we were kind of isolated from the crap until the very end. I enjoyed my time there (mainly busting big muddy tires and trying to explain why you couldn't stretch a 195/50/15 any further) and enjoyed the guys I worked with. I felt bad for the manager becasue he had started with them form the beginning as a kid and was blinsided by the whole "I'll use my business to support my lifestyle" issue. You can't beat the Eddie Hill "1st in the 4's" car though.

[MattA]

Employee #3218 store 051 Dallas TX. I laughed out loud at that 195/50/15 comment. I mounted 4 of those on 10" directionals for a lowered Mazda p/u once.

Great place for a kid into cars to work. I was 18 and worked with a really good crew of knowledgeable guys.

Mounted tires for a year, sold parts for a year. I still run into people I knew from back then. Good memories.

matt

[Vegas69]

I always liked super shops just for the fact you could actually drive to the store and look at what you are buying. Not to mention it's a hell of alot of fun looking at speed parts! This internet crap makes it hard to piece things together sometimes but we have no choice. Let's face it you can't count on parts guys to know what they are talking about in most circumstances no matter where you go.

[Damn True]

I recall watching this car at Baylands in Fremont.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2007/11/8SuperJPG-1.jpg

[TonyHuntimer]

Obviously by your employee numbers some of you guys are older than me. Mine was #6415. I worked in the Vallejo store in 1989-1991. I think it was store 063. I worked for Pat Wharton and later a tall skinny balding kid named Joe from the Reno/Sparks location (a transfer when Pat W left). I also remember a regional manager named Glen that drove around in his beat up red Fiero from store to store. There was also a bearded assistant mangaer named Steve (Fuller ...I think) who was promoted moved all the way to Georgia to manage a brand new store there (in 1990).

I remember selling and mounting tons of 195/50/15's and 205/50/15's and tons of really wide saw-blade style Cragars. Funny memories.

Tony Huntimer
http://www.goodies-speedshop.com

[youthpastor]

when you fly around in private jets living like a king, and open stores like crazy leveraged to the hilt and your parts suppliers are giving you crazy terms and aren't paying attention to the massive debt that you are accumulating, it's kinda like Unique. I know the tire manufacturers were way under water as they had given him like 90 day terms and he was stretching his payments way beyond that and no one was tending to the massive debt that was accumulating. Plus there was a lot of theft going on there as management was green and there weren't proper checks and balances in place. It's the old pyramid deal where you get long terms from your suppliers, sell for quick cash and just keep growing and building debt. anyone that would sell them on terms deserves a good whipping..got some big balls using that same name too..world is full of D/A that just don't pay attention to history.

wow boys that pretty much hits the nail on the head...:seizure: I had an interview with the west coast VP that took like four hours..I still remember why I joined in 1994 he told me they wanted to change their image and have the customer service of Nordstroms along with knowledgable staff (I was training to manage a store in Tacoma, but they wanted me to move like 50 times before the gave me Tacoma..6 days a week crappy pay, store thievery (not to be confusted with strategery) I quit in 2 months, no thanks. Ahh but i can still smell the tires!

[scogin918]

I always liked super shops just for the fact you could actually drive to the store and look at what you are buying. Not to mention it's a hell of alot of fun looking at speed parts! This internet crap makes it hard to piece things together sometimes but we have no choice. Let's face it you can't count on parts guys to know what they are talking about in most circumstances no matter where you go.

In theory, that was the general appeal to Super Shops over jeg's and the like. Well that and those snazzy black shirts with the neon pink and blue stripes. But it gave customers much more satisfaction to be able to drive down to their local Super Shops and chew someone a new one in person vs over the phone when they found out the extra warranty they purchased for their Mallory box or distributor didn't cover their parts when something went wrong. I hope they don't go that route again. I never felt more like a used car salesman than when it came time to sell the warranty. The road hazzards weren't that bad becasue I've seen guys get new tires out of it and other guys have to buy new tires becasue they didn't opt for it.

Any word on their corparate structure? Are they thinking about maybe going the franchise route or not?

As far as the 195/50/15's go, I had to use the inflatable, wrap-around air hose to seat more than I care to remember. I did my time in the very ealry 90's but as I look back it was a perfect place for me to learn how much I still had to learn about cars. It was also a great place to meet other car people. You could learn alot from some of the guys who would come in there. I remember one guy who was a master with the Quadrajet because of the NHRA class he ran in.

[Damn True]

There is a link on the site for "franchise information".

[class67]

I recall watching this car at Baylands in Fremont.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2007/11/8SuperJPG-1.jpg

Ahhhh! Baylands, the good old days. Wednesday "grudge nights".

[TonyHuntimer]

When I worked in Vallejo there was a regional manager or some management level guy named Pat Emmet that would stop by once in a while.

I still remember the smell of the tires. I never had an issue with any of the Mallory, Erson or BFG road hazzard waranty not helping the customer. I remember the 6 days a week and about 11 hours a day. I was young and didn't have much trouble with the hours. I think I remember the radio ads saying, "Open 7 days a week...including Sunday's!" Am I remembering correctly?

I liked working there. I learned a lot...because somebody had to know the answers. You were kind of forced to learn about the stuff in order to be a good salesperson. It wasn't like there was a senior knowledgeable guy to "lean on" for the answers (looking back at being 19 and that's kind of scary). It turned out that my co-workers looked to me for answers. Some customers could tell who knew what they were doing (at least on some level) and would be good repeat customers.

Selling parts back then was soooo much easier. There were a lot less parts on the market to have knowledge on. We didn't have Barry Grant, fuel injection, turbos, suspension (to speak of...only Herb Adams through Moroso), performance brakes, only sold BFG and ProTrac's, very few wheels (Cragar (80%), Centerline (15%), KMC, American Eagle, Tru-Spoke, Ronal and Enkei) and only had a few sizes you could buy ...no custom backspacing, very little nitrous business, Air Ride, perfromance tuners, import tuner stuff, custom seats, overdirve transmissions and more.

Tony Huntimer
http://www.goodies-speedshop.com

[TonyHuntimer]

Ahhhh! Baylands, the good old days. Wednesday "grudge nights".

Wednesday nights a Baylands was cool. If my memory serves me correctly I remember a hot blonde chick with a badass white Cuda out at Baylands back in the late 80's...and she was a pretty good racer.

I was mostly out at Sears Point for their "Grudge Nights". Those were the days!

Tony Huntimer
http://www.goodies-speedshop.com

[Bob Johnson]

speaking of warranties and all the club and points BS..has anyone bought much from BEST BUYS..I'll do without electronics before i'll deal with them..what a bunch of snake oil sales people..

[EBMC]

Seeing that Baylands shot really brings back memories, I have more miles down that track than I can remember. ran my first race at 15 with my learners permit. got the car from running 16's to 12's by spending every dime I had at Super Shops!

[camcojb]

When I worked in Vallejo there was a regional manager or some management level guy named Pat Emmet that would stop by once in a while.



Tony Huntimer
http://www.goodies-speedshop.com

I hired Pat at Super Shops in Sacramento. He worked at the A&W next door to our store. He was very persistant, and a quick learner which is why he was hired.

Jody

[TonyHuntimer]

I hired Pat at Super Shops in Sacramento. He worked at the A&W next door to our store. He was very persistant, which is why he was hired.

Jody

That's funny. I wonder what ever happened to these guys. I know Woody works for Edelbrock. I saw my old boss Patrick Wharton working for Wheel Works back in '96 here in San Jose.

Tony
http://www.goodies-speedshop.com

[scogin918]

My manager's name was Lonnie from Amarillo and the regional sup's name was Gary. Lonnie was young and Gary was just a couple of years older. We sold a good bit of the Mallory, some Erson, lots of BFG Euro T/A, some NOS, fittings and other general maintenance items to keep tem running. A lot of our customers regularly drove what they raced so our parking lot looked like a car show sometimes on Saturdays.

Oh, by the way, "I need a torque check please. Somebody?"

[kmcanally]

Employee #3218 store 051 Dallas TX. I laughed out loud at that 195/50/15 comment. I mounted 4 of those on 10" directionals for a lowered Mazda p/u once.

Great place for a kid into cars to work. I was 18 and worked with a really good crew of knowledgeable guys.

Mounted tires for a year, sold parts for a year. I still run into people I knew from back then. Good memories.

matt

Matt where was this store? I used to go to one on Arapaho in Richardson.

[MattA]

It was off of Buckner near IH 30. I worked the Arapaho store a few times as well. That torque check comment cracked me up. I forgot all about that.

[SDMAN]

Around here, they were known as "Stupid Shops".

[HILROD]

Ha, I watched a kid torque the brand new paint off the wheel lip on a plum crazy 70 or so Duster. Then he did it again only worse. He then walked away and didn't tell anyone or finish checking the wheels. I went and found the owner and told him to check his car. When I left they were telling him and me that it was like that when he came.

[rocketman]

I worked at the Super Shops, before they went out of business, the store manager were I looked warned us the company was filing bankruptcy.

[Damn True]

Wednesday nights a Baylands was cool. If my memory serves me correctly I remember a hot blonde chick with a badass white Cuda out at Baylands back in the late 80's...and she was a pretty good racer.

I was mostly out at Sears Point for their "Grudge Nights". Those were the days!

Tony Huntimer
http://www.goodies-speedshop.com

I made my share of Wednesday Nights at Baylands as well. There was another girl with a Chevy Luv that had a big block in it that was pretty quick too. I think she was from Fremont.

[trapin]

They must have been a California thing. We never had them out here in my neck of the woods. Back in the day it was Ramchargers or as we liked to call them, Scamchargers. Today we have Detroit Speed Shops all over the place. They're alright.

Who was the big name that Super Shops used to sponsor? Wasn't it Garlits?

[Damn True]

Eddie Hill

[trapin]

Ahh yes....Eddie Hill. First into the 4's if my memory serves me correct.

[ZZ430]

Garlits with Super Shops sponsorship.

Circa 1990

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2007/11/7519_1JPG-1.jpg

[scogin918]

Eddie Hill

Don't forget Ercie and Hot Dog

[trapin]

Yep...I thought I saw their logo on the side of Swamp Rat once upon a time.

[gearheads78]

Another alum. here #9332 started busting tires in #51 Dallas Buckner at age 19 in 1992. Was an assisant manager in 6 months out in #130 Odessa TX. A little while there before I was running Lubbock TX and made that little dinky store in the top 10 in GP in the country. We were selling the heck out of the extended warrantys..:here!: . LOL. Gary Forsythe picked me up one day out of the blue in a private jet and took me around the county hopping store to store ending up a 165 St. Louis Manchester. They moved me and my new wife up there and paid for everything. The now x-wife could'nt stand being states away from her mommy and we had to come back to TX on my dime 6 months later.

I was always good about hiring smart kids that were quick learners but I to this day I think the whole only having Mallory, Erson and not being able to give a customer selection was one of the biggest problems.

I think I could still swap out a warranty Unilite module blind folded :slap:

[John Monnin]

Anyone have a picture of the Supershops Corvette Giveaway car?

I knew the son of the guy who won it. When I worked at Peterbilt his dad drove it one one day. I believe it was a Callaway corvette development car because it had just about every Callaway option on it. It was pretty awesome.

[705.0Merc]

I used to hear the cars from Newark late at night racing at Baylands. Now there is a huge shopping center, Costco, Lowes Etc. It is also the proposed site for the Oakland A's new stadium. Anyone ever hear of Jim Guthry?? I'm in the Electrical apprenticeship and he is one of the teachers. I guess he worked at Baylands back in the days. He said him and his crew also ran the first grudge night at Sears point because they had no track timer or anything.

[ronin8451]

I remember going to the River Oaks Store #036 all the time ! I really miss the ability to run over on a Sunday to get something you need while wrenching on your car ! I bought a lot of Big Block stuff when they were going out of business. I also remember the red-headed guy that worked there and his dad buying lots of it and showing up at the next Southwest Swap meet @ Arlington Stadium selling it too:lmao: !

Hmmm...now where is my old black Erson/Super Shops jacket ??


Rick

[MrBadwrench]

They sponsered Don BIG DADDY Garlits, Eddie Hill, and the one nobody remembers is Bruce Allen - Pro Stock Baretta. I used to work for Mallory Ignition back in the day when they were the ****. It was fun once a year they would bring all the racers to the shop and it was a big ol BBQ no work just hangin out and bench racin. Most of us were street racers or would travel to Sac-town and race on a real track.
:usa:

[OHCbird]

Tony Rapin-

I remember 'Scam-chargers'; they were a Stupid-Shops knock off, but with real Detroit history (aka the Mopar Ramchargers group, along with the Rapid Transit guys). One thing was for sure- there was always as shop within 5 minutes. I worked at Holbrook in Livonia for a while, then at Roush as an intern. Damn Carl (Holbrook, RIP)was a pain in the azz, but I learned alot from some of the long-term guys there. Chris Farmer got his start there... I wonder what became of him?

I also helped start Turbo Engineering there- down on Ford road... long gone, as the owner picked up contracts with GM two years after we started. Nice shop, though.

[awr68]

Bought me a lot of Euro TA's in the late 80's @ Super Shops...thanks for the memories!! :)

[kmcanally]

My car still has some parts on it that I purchased at Super Shops almost 25 years ago.

[kmcanally]

I also bought some big and little Weldwheels with ProTracs from Super Shops. Then I replaced those with some 16" black Enkei mesh wheels with Comp TA VR's also from Super Shops. The backspacing was all wrong and the fender lip return flanges destroyed the tires.

[Steve1968LS2]

I spent a lot of money at the Stevens Creek store back in the '80s.

I had my own parking space at the La Mirada and Garden Grove stores.. it was like a candy story.

[protouring70]

Man back in high school most of my money went there. I loved to visit them. The one that I new of was in Lilburn, Ga. And there was also a place called Car Craft. ( I think that was the name of it?)
Whew that was a long time ago!!

[class67]

[quote=705.0Merc]I used to hear the cars from Newark late at night racing at Baylands.

Growing up in Fremont, I lived in the centerville district and could them racing at Baylands from there.

[gt1guy]

I used to go to the LaMesa store in San Diego all the time.

Tom, you don't happen to remember a long haired punk with a turbocharged gold 69 Z/28 do you?

Kevin

[malihoochie]

They must have been a California thing. We never had them out here in my neck of the woods. Back in the day it was Ramchargers or as we liked to call them, Scamchargers. Today we have Detroit Speed Shops all over the place. They're alright.

Who was the big name that Super Shops used to sponsor? Wasn't it Garlits?

There was one in Roseville on Gratiot & just south of 11 1/4, next to Reeds Drugs. I ran that store for a year and a half or so. There was also a store in Livonia, Taylor, and Flint Michigan too. Employee #8694 for me I worked for that company about 6 years. There were about 170 stores nationwide.

[chicane67]

I used to go to the LaMesa store in San Diego all the time.

Tom, you don't happen to remember a long haired punk with a turbocharged gold 69 Z/28 do you?

Kevin

Vaguely.

I didn't really have a working clientele at LaMesa... as I did over in Kerney Mesa. Bouncing around as a Manager didnt allow me too much of that. But that car does sound familiar...

[BulldawgMusclecars]

Around here, they were known as "Stupid Shops".

Thats what we called it in Atlanta. The only reason anyone went there is if they forgot to bring their gun that day and didn't want to risk going to Barnett Performance!

Its no wonder they don't have knowledgable people at most of these places. though. Our local Summit Racing only pays reps $10.00/hr. How could they know much about parts they can't afford?

[BulldawgMusclecars]

Man back in high school most of my money went there. I loved to visit them. The one that I new of was in Lilburn, Ga. And there was also a place called Car Craft. ( I think that was the name of it?)
Whew that was a long time ago!!

I think Car Crafts was around Lilburn; the nearest SS to there was the one on HWY 29, inside the perimeter. I used to go to the one on Jonesboro Rd.

[PonchoJohn]

I still have (and use) the last set of FlowTech headers I bought from Super Shops. The Fresno store was the next to last store to go under, so they hads LOTS of good deals.
I really miss the days of wandering in there and looking (daydreaming) at parts. It was great to be able to buy a Holley jet or gasket on a Sunday afternoon. I loved the Mallory pumps, and bought my fair share of BFG's from that place.
I scored a set of Koni's from one of the resident knucklehead-countermen, Lloyd- his one "fish tale" that came true- "No dude, I can REALLY get you Koni's for 1/2 price!!"
In the 80's, most of the guys I knew were very knowledgable. That changed in the mid 90's- too many "sales"men and not enough knowledge.
We lost our manager, Jeffry, to Pep Boys- the hours must have finally got to him. I ran into him a couple of times, and he seemed real happy (and calm). There was one cat named Ron (kinda reminded me of a mild Tweaker) who was really cool. I've often wondered what happen him and the other good guys.

[WS6]

Thats what we called it in Atlanta. The only reason anyone went there is if they forgot to bring their gun that day and didn't want to risk going to Barnett Performance!



haha Barnett's is in a bad side of town. I go in, get done, and get out. Thank goodness they are right off I20. Few wrong turns in that area and you'd better keep your doors locked.

[RudeJester.s10]

ss employee number 11510 tulsa ok...super shops inc is NOT back in business...a former customer who apparently has much fonder memories of these stores bought the rights to the name and the tm. Simply put its a franchise sort of thing right now....and yes there were times when we had to hire some "know it alls" to have enough on the team so those of us who did know what we were doing could have some days off....i stayed til the last day and even now when i hear of bad mouthing of ss i say in harry's def. Its very hard to watch every employee to make sure they do what they should and know what they are doing and if you think building the empire he built (175 stores nationwide) and maintaining that empire is easy....by all means....lets see you do it!

[wick]

They sponsered Don BIG DADDY Garlits, Eddie Hill, and the one nobody remembers is Bruce Allen - Pro Stock Baretta. I used to work for Mallory Ignition back in the day when they were the ****. It was fun once a year they would bring all the racers to the shop and it was a big ol BBQ no work just hangin out and bench racin. Most of us were street racers or would travel to Sac-town and race on a real track.
:usa:

I remember Bruce Allen...........and the day Lee Shepard was killed.